why are there so many evil people in the world?

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Just like the Muslim or other Christians who find your flavor heretical are trying to save your hide, yet you don’t convert...

There is truth to be found out there, one is God is up there and you can get close to him, this is from experience, i don't know about anything else that matters much.
Finding God is very valuable...
 
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Because the Christian god says everyone is evil from birth.

Yes, except the first people until they screwed up. You can see the world and reach conclusions if it is not sick because of the human behaviour.
 
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Yes, except the first people until they screwed up. You can see the world and reach conclusions if it is not sick because of the human behaviour.
Does one evil act make someone evil? Does one good act make someone good? How is an evil person determined?
 
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Does one evil act make someone evil? Does one good act make someone good? How is an evil person determined?

Just my opinion:
Evil deeds yes. But there is various degrees of evil deeds and some evil deeds weigh more in the balance than others. In general people agree more or less if a specific person is evil, except God morals usually have higher standards than man. And today society may call normal what God doesn't like, but we can all agree with the morals at the opposite extremes, and then there is the gray areas which people may have different opinions on but God opinion stays the same. But is obvious this world is sick, the less grave stuff may be greed and egoism or selfishness, lack of love, lies, cheating, lack of compassion, we can all agree that this is bad, then you have the worst of humans... you can imagine.
 
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Just my opinion:
Evil deeds yes. But there is various degrees of evil deeds and some evil deeds weigh more in the balance than others. In general people agree more or less if a specific person is evil, except God morals usually have higher standards than man. And today society may call normal what God doesn't like, but we can all agree with the morals at the opposite extremes, and then there is the gray areas which people may have different opinions on but God opinion stays the same. But is obvious this world is sick, the less grave stuff may be greed and egoism or selfishness, lack of love, lies, cheating, lack of compassion, we can all agree that this is bad, then you have the worst of humans... you can imagine.
I would disagree that Gods standards are higher than a moral system based on well being.

I agree that we can mostly agree on what is right and wrong. It is obvious that people do bad things on a regular basis in our world that hurts others. However, I would say that we have a better moral system today than any time in human history. We treat the mentally ill better, we treat homosexuals better, we treat non believers better, we have less capital punishment, we have more social services than in the past, we have more money per person being donated to organizations that help people etc. If we just look at the bad that is all we will see.
 
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I would disagree that Gods standards are higher than a moral system based on well being.

I agree that we can mostly agree on what is right and wrong. It is obvious that people do bad things on a regular basis in our world that hurts others. However, I would say that we have a better moral system today than any time in human history. We treat the mentally ill better, we treat homosexuals better, we treat non believers better, we have less capital punishment, we have more social services than in the past, we have more money per person being donated to organizations that help people etc. If we just look at the bad that is all we will see.

The world still stinks badly, you would agree? in a better world, we would harm less each other, and help eachother more. The suffering humans cause is horrible, more than anything else, why we hurt each other so much?, and it doens't need to be murder or something like that, just treating your co workers badly in the job for example is something that makes people miserable, bullying, lies, cheat. lack of empathy. etc.

And the goverments? they compete with each other like greedy lunatics. Can't help the people suffering enough. Always fighting.
 
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The world still stinks badly, you would agree? in a better world, we would harm less each other, and help eachother more. The suffering humans cause is horrible, more than anything else, why we hurt each other so much?, and it doens't need to be murder or somethin like that, just treating your co workers badly in the job for example is something that makes people miserable, bullying, lies, cheat. lack of empathy. etc.
I agree with this. But why not consider the good people do as well?
 
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Yes, people do good, if it were enough good, this world wouldn't feel much as bad.
Maybe you are right. And we cannot change how most people act. We can do good ourselves, encourage others to do good, teach our children to do good, stand up against people doing bad things and dedicate our lives to these goals. Or we can resign ourselves to a miserable life only thinking how bad everything is. I am not saying you are like this but there are too many religious people waiting for god to fix everything instead of acting themselves to fix something.
 
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There is truth to be found out there, one is God is up there and you can get close to him, this is from experience, i don't know about anything else that matters much.
Finding God is very valuable...
The groups I mentioned make very similar exclusivist claims. I see no reason to give yours any more weight than theirs.
 
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The groups I mentioned make very similar exclusivist claims. I see no reason to give yours any more weight than theirs.

I'm no 'snake oil salesman', i'm just speaking from what i know that i'm 100% sure God did things to me, and i know people can get close to him, i'm doing my best to be sincere and i don't want you in 'my faction' just a desire to someone else to know the truth, and experience the same things as i have.
 
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I'm no 'snake oil salesman', i'm just speaking from what i know that i'm 100% sure God did things to me, and i know people can get close to him, i'm doing my best to be sincere and i don't want you in 'my faction' just a desire to someone else to know the truth, and experience the same things as i have.
Again, they make the same kind of claims. Why are your feelings more real than theirs?
 
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So....let me get this straight. This one verse implies, all by itself, that no amount of 'good deeds' should or even HAS to accompany any one Christian's expression of faith in Christ?
If you think that verse is wrong I’m fine with that.
 
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Hello, is not wise to compare ourselves with ourselves 2 Corinthians 10:12. God is my judge not myself...
Well, I’m my own judge. And I’ve done nothing evil in my life so there’s that too.
 
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