Supreme Court halts turnover of Trump tax returns

civilwarbuff · Nov 19, 2019

Speedwell said:
US Constitution Article II, Section 1 gives each state complete freedom in the manner of choosing Electors.

Choosing electors has nothing to do with adding qualifications as to who can appear on a presidential ballot outside the Constitution.

Speedwell · Nov 19, 2019

civilwarbuff said:
Choosing electors has nothing to do with adding qualifications as to who can appear on a presidential ballot outside the Constitution.

Complete freedom to choose electors covers it. Technically, there is no requirement that there be a popular ballot at all.

"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress"

JackRT · Nov 19, 2019

When the Constitution refers to "electors" are they referring to members of a state's electoral college or to citizens in general?

Speedwell · Nov 19, 2019

JackRT said:
When the Constitution refers to "electors" are they referring to members of a state's electoral college or to citizens in general?

To the members of the state's delegation to the Electoral College.

durangodawood · Nov 19, 2019

We NEED a strong president who is above the law.

civilwarbuff · Nov 19, 2019

JackRT said:
When the Constitution refers to "electors" are they referring to members of a state's electoral college or to citizens in general?

What particular Article/Section are you referencing?

civilwarbuff · Nov 19, 2019

durangodawood said:
We NEED a strong president who is above the law.

We had one....LBJ.

Hank77 · Nov 19, 2019

civilwarbuff said:
As above....your belief in that is supported by what evidence?

Bloomberg has not officially said whether he will run in the 2020 race, but has acknowledged he is considering a bid and qualified on Friday for the Alabama ballot. Each U.S. state conducts separate qualifying processes.
....
Tuesday is the last day for candidates to qualify to be on the presidential primary ballot in Arkansas.
Michael Bloomberg, weighing presidential bid, appears in Arkansas to enter ballot

You could check out your state's election laws.

This is one of the great things about being a Republic, each state's citizens have the ability to make their own state's laws.

That is why some states have stricter accommodation laws than some other states. Each state must meet the federal accommodation laws standard but can be stricter. The same with gun laws, etc.

The federal government, as far as I know, doesn't have any laws effecting election ballots in each state.
That may be why the federal judge said "likely" because he doesn't know if it is unconstitutional, there isn't any federal laws for him to turn to.

durangodawood · Nov 19, 2019

civilwarbuff said:
We had one....LBJ.

Not strong enough.

Speedwell · Nov 19, 2019

civilwarbuff said:
What particular Article/Section are you referencing?

Article II Section 1 as I said before. Go ahead and read it for yourself. Just hold your nose and do it.

civilwarbuff · Nov 19, 2019

Hank77 said:
Bloomberg has not officially said whether he will run in the 2020 race, but has acknowledged he is considering a bid and qualified on Friday for the Alabama ballot. Each U.S. state conducts separate qualifying processes.
....
Tuesday is the last day for candidates to qualify to be on the presidential primary ballot in Arkansas.
Michael Bloomberg, weighing presidential bid, appears in Arkansas to enter ballot

You could check out your state's election laws.

This is one of the great things about being a Republic, each state's citizens have the ability to make their own state's laws.

That is why some states have stricter accommodation laws than some other states. Each state must meet the federal accommodation laws standard but can be stricter. The same with gun laws, etc.

The federal government, as far as I know, doesn't have any laws effecting election ballots in each state.
That may be why the federal judge said "likely" because he doesn't know if it is unconstitutional, there isn't any federal laws for him to turn to.

You realize that what you are discussing is a Primary not the General Election. Primary elections have nothing to do with the electoral college and are not dealt with in any way in the US Constitution. Primaries are simply a way for the people to express their preference as to who they want to represent their political party in the General election. Prior to having primaries political parties chose the General election candidates. As a matter of fact, there is talk that the GOP are considering not even having a primary since the Republican consensus is for Trump; that of course can change. Not all states have primaries:

The Iowa caucuses are biennial electoral events for members of the Democratic and Republican parties in the U.S. state of Iowa. Unlike primary elections in most other U.S. states where registered voters go to polling places to cast ballots, Iowans instead gather at local caucus meetings to discuss and vote on the candidates. During both the presidential and midterm election seasons, registered Iowan voters vote in a per-precinct caucus for the party of which they are registered as a member. The caucuses are also held to select delegates to county conventions and party committees, among other party activities.Wikipedia

Speedwell · Nov 19, 2019

civilwarbuff said:
You realize that what you are discussing is a Primary not the General Election. Primary elections have nothing to do with the electoral college and are not dealt with in any way in the US Constitution. Primaries are simply a way for the people to express their preference as to who they want to represent their political party in the General election. Prior to having primaries political parties chose the General election candidates. As a matter of fact, there is talk that the GOP are considering not even having a primary since the Republican consensus is for Trump; that of course can change. Not all states have primaries:

The Iowa caucuses are biennial electoral events for members of the Democratic and Republican parties in the U.S. state of Iowa. Unlike primary elections in most other U.S. states where registered voters go to polling places to cast ballots, Iowans instead gather at local caucus meetings to discuss and vote on the candidates. During both the presidential and midterm election seasons, registered Iowan voters vote in a per-precinct caucus for the party of which they are registered as a member. The caucuses are also held to select delegates to county conventions and party committees, among other party activities.Wikipedia

IMO we'd be better off without primaries altogether.

civilwarbuff · Nov 19, 2019

Speedwell said:
IMO we'd be better off without primaries altogether.

I dunno, no perfect system for sure........

cow451 · Nov 19, 2019

durangodawood said:
We NEED a strong president who is above the law.

But we have a WEAK one that wants to be above the law.

civilwarbuff · Nov 19, 2019

cow451 said:
But we have a WEAK one that wants to be above the law.

Not according to the Dems; they likely think he belongs on the FBI most wanted list......oops, I think the FBI put him there according to their behavior......

cow451 · Nov 19, 2019

civilwarbuff said:
Not according to the Dems; they likely think he belongs on the FBI most wanted list......oops, I think the FBI put him there according to their behavior......

He would make a good mug shot.

civilwarbuff · Nov 19, 2019

In about 5 years you can go admire it in the White House.....

cow451 said:
He would make a good mug shot.

cow451 · Nov 19, 2019

civilwarbuff said:
In about 5 years you can go admire it in the White House.....

A Realist · Nov 19, 2019

durangodawood said:
We NEED a strong president who is above the law.

....sounds like you want a king or dictator....

civilwarbuff · Nov 19, 2019

cow451 said:

That still looks better than Obama's......

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