Abundance of Incest in Modern Times

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Given the modern climate leaning more and more toward immorality, the biblical and historic taboo against incest is coming under increasing attack.

In an interview, Nick Cassavetes, whose new movie Yellow tells the story of a love affair between an adult sister and brother, stated that "Incest is just the latest frontier in people throwing off the shackles of rigid, cultural convention and following their hearts."

Recall what the word of God says about the human heart....

According to Nick, “We had heard a few stories where brothers and sisters were completely, absolutely in love with one another. You know what? This whole movie is about judgment, and lack of it, and doing what you want. Who gives a @#$% if people judge you? I’m not saying this is an absolute, but in a way, if you’re not having kids — who gives a @#$%? Love who you want. Isn’t that what we say? Gay marriage — love who you want? If it’s your brother or sister it’s super-weird, but if you look at it, you’re not hurting anybody except every single person who freaks out because you’re in love with one another.”

Wow. Talk about missing an inherent reality about the fallenness of human beings and joining the ranks of those whose ignorance of psychological truth, as opposed to flabby, toxic relativism and malignant narcissism, imperils our children under the guise of freedom from judgement and constraints.

When incest is going on in a family, they're not expressing genuine romantic love. They're expressing pathologically fractured boundaries that existed in their family of origin. They're manifesting fouled roots. They're expressing household values where there can be seen the unleashing of inappropriate, toxic, sexual impulses.

Normal, healthy brothers and sisters don’t have sex as kids, adolescents or when they grow up. Only the sick ones do. And when a freak of moral nature makes the statement that incest is just fine for consenting sisters and brothers, he presumably also believes (based on the comments quoted above) in many other warped and twisted behavior as being appropriate.

How long before we are sacrificing our children on the burning arms of idols once again rather than only murdering them in the womb?

He believes human beings are free to do as they choose? He questions why we should call anyone disordered? Isn’t that just vicious name-calling? And how about this one? Why can’t a killer do in a consenting victim? Why can’t someone who believes the CIA is following him and who ends up homeless just be called a “life artist?” Why does that person have to be labeled psychotic? Who’s to pass judgment? Certainly not Nick.

He and those like him have no guiding principles, other than this one: There are no guiding principles.

Bottom line: Sisters and brothers who have sexual affairs are not well. They need help sorting out and overcoming psychological suffering and terrifying traumas that perhaps visited them long ago.

It is in our increasingly psychologically ill society where the mainstreaming of psychiatric pathology—what one of my mentors termed, are “collaborating with madness”— and passes for tolerance and enlightenment what is so very damaging to many. And the ambassadors of this epidemic of pathological-behavior-as-freedom too often come from television and film.

Thoughts?

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in time, you will have to confront some long-denied demons, too.

Because in my office, and eventually, in yours, too, the truth always wins.
Compare the contrast of evil in the last day(s) >
(two thirds of mankind left alive refuse to confront some long-denied demons, and the truth does not win in their lives at all)
Revelation 9:20 Now the rest of mankind who were not killed ...

https://biblehub.com › revelation

But the people who did not die in these plagues still refused to repent of their evil ... They did not stop worshiping demons and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone, ...
 
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Do you have a link to the pertinent interviews?

Now, I'm not going to say this is the sole cause of this, but I really think that Game of Thrones did quite a bit to make it more palatable to the public, since the characters in the show that are prominently incestuous are attractive people, and most of them are unrepentant about it.
 
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Do you have a link to the pertinent interviews?

Now, I'm not going to say this is the sole cause of this, but I really think that Game of Thrones did quite a bit to make it more palatable to the public, since the characters in the show that are prominently incestuous are attractive people, and most of them are unrepentant about it.

Yes, one among many outlets for corrupting the minds of people, and especially our children in public schools, since many of those school are known for being a tremendous force in undermining historic values.

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Yes, one among many outlets for corrupting the minds of people, and especially our children in public schools, since many of those school are known for being a tremendous force in undermining historic values.
Which public schools are actively promoting incest?
 
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Yes, one among many outlets for corrupting the minds of people, and especially our children in public schools, since many of those school are known for being a tremendous force in undermining historic values.

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1 Corinthians 5:1-2[ A horrible sin and a stern remedy ] It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and immorality of a kind that even pagans condemn—a man has apparently taken his father’s wife! Are you still proud of your church? Shouldn’t you be overwhelmed with sorrow and shame? The man who has done such a thing should certainly be expelled from your fellowship!
 
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Incest of course is nothing new at all. A lean towards society accepting it would be new. If indeed that's the case. We certainly can't base much off Hollywood, most of them will produce most anything anyway. Most of the producers are perverts of one sort or another, not all but many.
 
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A lean towards society accepting it would be new.
Openly accepting it may be new,

but practicing incest (and all other sins) is relatively (pun intended) common for many centuries, especially among unbelievers (the biggest group on earth by far).
 
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Which public schools are actively promoting incest?

That's not what I was saying. Public schools are promoting the valueless system of thought for each one doing whatever one wants; that moral constraints are old school, antiquated nonsense that need to be cast aside, very much like Nick quoted in the OP.

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That's not what I was saying. Public schools are promoting the valueless system of thought for each one doing whatever one wants; that moral constraints are old school, antiquated nonsense that need to be cast aside,
That was attempted, and succeeded to large extent, in Russia and in Germany, before , during and maybe some time after wwII. That's why they embraced and pushed the false teachings to all ages, especially the youngest, like evolution, godlessness?, no personal family values any more...
 
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That's not what I was saying. Public schools are promoting the valueless system of thought for each one doing whatever one wants; that moral constraints are old school, antiquated nonsense that need to be cast aside, very much like Nick quoted in the OP.

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No, they promote their morality. Anti-racism, and pro-environment were two key tenets when I was in school. The gay lobby hadn't penetrated into public schools back then.
 
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Given the modern climate leaning more and more toward immorality, the biblical and historic taboo against incest is coming under increasing attack.

In an interview, Nick Cassavetes, whose new movie Yellow tells the story of a love affair between an adult sister and brother, stated that "Incest is just the latest frontier in people throwing off the shackles of rigid, cultural convention and following their hearts."

Recall what the word of God says about the human heart....

According to Nick, “We had heard a few stories where brothers and sisters were completely, absolutely in love with one another. You know what? This whole movie is about judgment, and lack of it, and doing what you want. Who gives a @#$% if people judge you? I’m not saying this is an absolute, but in a way, if you’re not having kids — who gives a @#$%? Love who you want. Isn’t that what we say? Gay marriage — love who you want? If it’s your brother or sister it’s super-weird, but if you look at it, you’re not hurting anybody except every single person who freaks out because you’re in love with one another.”

Wow. Talk about missing an inherent reality about the fallenness of human beings and joining the ranks of those whose ignorance of psychological truth, as opposed to flabby, toxic relativism and malignant narcissism, imperils our children under the guise of freedom from judgement and constraints.

When incest is going on in a family, they're not expressing genuine romantic love. They're expressing pathologically fractured boundaries that existed in their family of origin. They're manifesting fouled roots. They're expressing household values where there can be seen the unleashing of inappropriate, toxic, sexual impulses.

Normal, healthy brothers and sisters don’t have sex as kids, adolescents or when they grow up. Only the sick ones do. And when a freak of moral nature makes the statement that incest is just fine for consenting sisters and brothers, he presumably also believes (based on the comments quoted above) in many other warped and twisted behavior as being appropriate.

How long before we are sacrificing our children on the burning arms of idols once again rather than only murdering them in the womb?

He believes human beings are free to do as they choose? He questions why we should call anyone disordered? Isn’t that just vicious name-calling? And how about this one? Why can’t a killer do in a consenting victim? Why can’t someone who believes the CIA is following him and who ends up homeless just be called a “life artist?” Why does that person have to be labeled psychotic? Who’s to pass judgment? Certainly not Nick.

He and those like him have no guiding principles, other than this one: There are no guiding principles.

Bottom line: Sisters and brothers who have sexual affairs are not well. They need help sorting out and overcoming psychological suffering and terrifying traumas that perhaps visited them long ago.

It is in our increasingly psychologically ill society where the mainstreaming of psychiatric pathology—what one of my mentors termed, are “collaborating with madness”— and passes for tolerance and enlightenment what is so very damaging to many. And the ambassadors of this epidemic of pathological-behavior-as-freedom too often come from television and film.

Thoughts?

Jr
As far as I am aware Nick is not a believer, as such I would expect nothing less from him.
The surprise with the world is not that it is sinful, but that it has been able to maintain such a facade of Christian goodness for so long after Christianity was rejected from the public domain.
 
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No, they promote their morality. Anti-racism, and pro-environment were two key tenets when I was in school. The gay lobby hadn't penetrated into public schools back then.

The problem is what's been going on since then. Today, it's a free-for-all of valueless humanism, with islam cast as the only acceptable religion to be practiced in our schools, which is ironic given how hostile islam is toward women's freedom and homosexuals.

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As far as I am aware Nick is not a believer, as such I would expect nothing less from him.
The surprise with the world is not that it is sinful, but that it has been able to maintain such a facade of Christian goodness for so long after Christianity was rejected from the public domain.

Actually, he leans in the direction of Unitarian, Evangelical Lutheran and United Methodist. He does attend denominational churcianity according to his bio, but only the more liberal ones that are more accepting of the perverse side of human nature.

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Today, it's a free-for-all of valueless humanism, with islam cast as the only acceptable religion to be practiced in our schools

Right, you have anything to back your claim or are you just getting all of that from the comments of one Hollywood director ?
 
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Right, you have anything to back your claim or are you just getting all of that from the comments of one Hollywood director ?

Given your antagonistic tone, I'm not all that inclined to provide an answer. Antagonism is best left to the less intelligent, lost souls out there. If you want to discuss the topic with us, then that's cool, but the tone of your question is such that you're not really looking for answers so much as you're looking for a fight. So, if that's what you're looking for, then you can get lost. I'm not playing. Otherwise, please frame your question in a way that's not dripping with malice.

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please frame your question in a way that's not dripping with malice.

What evidence you have that Islam is being favoured as only acceptable religion in schools that are supposed to be nonreligious anyway ?
 
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The problem is what's been going on since then. Today, it's a free-for-all of valueless humanism, with islam cast as the only acceptable religion to be practiced in our schools, which is ironic given how hostile islam is toward women's freedom and homosexuals.

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Evidence?

When I was in school, there were a couple of Muslim guys in my grade. The only concession I recall them getting or asking for was no pork products in their food. How has that changed, and what proof do you have that it has changed?
 
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What evidence you have that Islam is being favoured as only acceptable religion in schools that are supposed to be nonreligious anyway ?

There are increasing reports locally of public schools having students act out jihad councils and chants, as well as teaching select the islamic beliefs, steering clear of the Quoran's teaching about the place of women. American Family Radio has also been reporting of the same types of drive within public schools across the nation. There are articles across the web about this as well, featuring testimonials from parents who found out about those teachings and activities without ever having been told by the schools.

The public, state university where I attended to get my degree also has taken the university chapel and given it to the islamics for their exclusive use, with all non-islamics barred from being allowed entrance.

On and on the testimonies go. Can I pull out for you evidence you can hold in your hands like a steel ball. No. I cannot. It has to do with hearing from those who report on things that are not paraded with fanfare because the administrators know the public would not approve. Even the ACLU is turning a blind eye to the activities in public schools, even though they would never countenance Christianity being taught and acted out on the same scale.

On what basis do you say that our schools should be "nonreligious"? Are the courts infallible?

Just wondering about the basis for your question and assumed ruling.

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