Douggg
anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist
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It does not have to say anywhere "His people". The text of the rapture/resurrection event refers to them who sleep in Christ, and them (in Christ inferred) alive at the time. The "His people" phrase is something you are coming up with. There is no requirement to prove your wording. The bible is sufficient and the proof has been presented to you over and over, but you don't want to face it.But to say that Jesus Returns with humans, is a contradiction of Matthew 16:27 and Revelation 19:14. Verses you conveniently ignore. So where the Bible is unclear, as in Zechariah and Jude, then we must apply the meaning that is plainly stated.
If you believe it is humans who Return with Jesus, then you must provide a Bible verse that says God will take His people to live in heaven before the Return.
Any assumptions, suppositions, conjecture or plain guesswork is rejected.
Matthew 16:27 does not say with only his angels, and does not call them his armies. There will be an army of angels coming with Jesus. But in Revelation 19:14 it is armies - plural. Kings and priests.
Revelation 19:14 does not say angels, and refers back to Revelation 19:8, to prove it is not referring to angels, but the saints. They are coming from heaven, in Revelation 19:11.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
The above is sufficient information to prove that the rapture/resurrected of the them asleep in Christ and the alive in Christ at the time will be taken to heaven, to return with Jesus from heaven in his armies - plural.
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