My God is a big God

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If God is infinite (Being everywhere) and God lives in heaven, then heaven would have to be infinitely bigger for God to exist in. But how can you have 2 infinite places? (One existing in the other) Because God wouldn't be infinite if heaven is bigger than him to live in, but heaven can't be bigger than God if God is everywhere.
 

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If God is infinite (Being everywhere) and God lives in heaven, then heaven would have to be infinitely bigger for God to exist in. But how can you have 2 infinite places? (One existing in the other) Because God wouldn't be infinite if heaven is bigger than him to live in, but heaven can't be bigger than God if God is everywhere.
The Kingdom of Heaven is here.
 
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The Kingdom of Heaven is here.
The same problem arises, even if heaven was here.

But that is not what the Bible says, you're just saying that so you can escape thinking for yourself.
 
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If God is infinite (Being everywhere) and God lives in heaven, then heaven would have to be infinitely bigger for God to exist in. But how can you have 2 infinite places? (One existing in the other) Because God wouldn't be infinite if heaven is bigger than him to live in, but heaven can't be bigger than God if God is everywhere.
God does not "live" in heaven. Haven is not a material place, its a state.

All universe is in God, as the Bible says "in Him ve move, breathe and have our existence".
 
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God does not "live" in heaven. Haven is not a material place, its a state.

All universe is in God, as the Bible says "in Him ve move, breathe and have our existence".
A state of what?
 
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So God is heaven? Is that what you're saying?
No.

I am saying that heaven is not a material place. Its a state, dimension. It can be 1 meter from your, 1 milimeter from you or on the other part of the universe. Because its not about a physical position, its about spiritual reality.
 
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No.

I am saying that heaven is not a material place. Its a state, dimension. It can be 1 meter from your, 1 milimeter from you or on the other part of the universe. Because its not about a physical position, its about spiritual reality.
It doesn't matter if heaven is a non material dimension (I never said it was a material place) I said that if there is a heaven, and God lives in heaven, then that state, dimension or place can't be bigger than God (But it also has to bigger than God for God to fit into)

It doesn't matter where people think God lives, here, there or anywhere, the same paradox will occur.
 
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Time and Space are what we exist in, The Creator of the universe is outside of these constrictions.

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." Isaiah 55: 8-9
 
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Time and Space are what we exist in, The Creator of the universe is outside of these constrictions.

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." Isaiah 55: 8-9
Does the Bible not say that God lives in heaven? Doesn't God have a seat in heaven? Aren't there Angel's who live in Heaven with God?
 
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The same problem arises, even if heaven was here.

But that is not what the Bible says, you're just saying that so you can escape thinking for yourself.
Not liking an answer does not mean it is not right.
 
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It doesn't matter if heaven is a non material dimension (I never said it was a material place) I said that if there is a heaven, and God lives in heaven, then that state, dimension or place can't be bigger than God (But it also has to bigger than God for God to fit into)
But you are describing it as having dimensions, boundaries, etc.
 
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But you are describing it as having dimensions, boundaries, etc.
I am not saying that at all, I am saying that one infinite thing can not exist inside another infinite thing. It is impossible for an infinite God to dwell in a place (Heaven) without that place being greater than the sum of God himself.
 
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Congratulations, you’ve debunked the most simplistic, Amelia Bedelia interpretation of scripture. Do you prefer chocolate chip, or oatmeal raisin?
What is a Amelia Bedelia?
 
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If God is infinite (Being everywhere) and God lives in heaven, then heaven would have to be infinitely bigger for God to exist in. But how can you have 2 infinite places? (One existing in the other) Because God wouldn't be infinite if heaven is bigger than him to live in, but heaven can't be bigger than God if God is everywhere.

We can not even begin to comprehend the magnitude of God. We know the universe is vast, we are only able to observe about 4% of the universe ... does it have a beginning? ... does it have an end? ..... we have absolutely no way of knowing. You put forth a few of your thoughts/concepts/notions ... and that's what they are nothing more.

The bible describes heaven as a real place where God dwells ... where, how etc. we don't have a clue. He dwells in the cosmos ... beyond that we are not given any other info.
 
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It doesn't matter if heaven is a non material dimension (I never said it was a material place) I said that if there is a heaven, and God lives in heaven, then that state, dimension or place can't be bigger than God (But it also has to bigger than God for God to fit into)

It doesn't matter where people think God lives, here, there or anywhere, the same paradox will occur.
When you think in terms "God is somewhere and therefore this somewhere has to be around Him, therefore as big as He is", then you are thinking in physical, material terms.

How much place do you need for an idea, for information or for joy? Non-physical realities are not bound by 3D logic.

And thats what I am trying to say - God is spirit and heaven is not a physical place.

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
 
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