What has been added to scripture?

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NPNF (V2-14)

Canon XXIV. (Greek xxvii.)

That nothing be read in church besides the Canonical Scripture.

Item, that besides the Canonical Scriptures nothing be read in church under the name of divine Scripture.

But the Canonical Scriptures are as follows:

Genesis.

Exodus.

Leviticus.

Numbers.

Deuteronomy.

Joshua the Son of Nun.

The Judges.

Ruth.

The Kings, iv. books.

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The Chronicles, ij. books.

Job.

The Psalter.

The Five books of Solomon.

The Twelve Books of the Prophets.

Isaiah.

Jeremiah.

Ezechiel.

Daniel.

Tobit.

Judith.

Esther.

Ezra, ij. books.

Macchabees, ij. books.

The New Testament.

The Gospels, iv. books.

The Acts of the Apostles, j. book.

The Epistles of Paul, xiv.

The Epistles of Peter, the Apostle, ij.

The Epistles of John the Apostle, iij.

The Epistles of James the Apostle, j.

The Epistle of Jude the Apostle, j.

The Revelation of John, j. book.

Let this be sent to our brother and fellow bishop, Boniface, and to the other bishops of those parts, that they may confirm this canon, for these are the things which we have received from our fathers to be read in church.

Notes.

Ancient Epitome of Canon XXIV.

Let nothing besides the canonical Scriptures be read in church.

This is Canon xxxvj. of Hippo., 393. The last phrase allowing the reading of the “passions of the Martyrs” on their Anniversaries is omitted from the African code.

Johnson.

These two books [i.e. the two Maccabees] are mentioned only in Dionysius Exiguus’s copy. See Can. Ap. ult., Can. Laod. ult.

“Boniface,” i.e., Bishop of Rome.

Philip Schaff: NPNF2-14. The Seven Ecumenical Councils - Christian Classics Ethereal Library CHURCH FATHERS: Council of Carthage (A.D. 419)

Yes, that's from Nicene and Post Nicene Fathers. I have the volume in my library. Is there a point here?
 
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The scriptures had been canonized 300 years before the New Testament was written...

David, I am assuming you were tired when you read my post.
"This message in Revelation in referring to the book of Revelation itself. The scriptures had been canonized 300 years before the New Testament was written and yet since then 27 books have been added with the addition of the New Testament. When the book of Revelation was written the New Testament had not been canonized and were not contained in one book as we know today as the Bible. It wasn’t until over 200 years later that the Bible was canonized into one book. So Revelation 22:18 is not saying that God will not add anything further to the Bible or that He will not reveal anything new thru divine revelation after it was written, it is simply saying that no one will add to the book of Revelation."
Hi again Daniel, yes, it's true, I was tired :yawn: :sleep:

The question(s) that I was/am interested in having you answer for me is when, where, and by whom/by which Jewish council were the OT Scriptures canonized because, to the best of my knowledge anyway, we don't know if such a thing ever happened prior to the 1st Century.

Thanks!

--David
 
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Obviously any reference to "scriptures" in the Old Testament refers to Old Testament scriptures, and is intended as an instruction for the Jewish people. Equally obviously, followers of Jesus Christ follow primarily the New Testament Scriptures, which record His teaching.
 
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Yes, that's from Nicene and Post Nicene Fathers. I have the volume in my library. Is there a point here?

Someone asked for the source, so I posted it. that's all. Thanks for asking.
 
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Someone asked for the source, so I posted it. that's all. Thanks for asking.
Thanks. People should read the sources instead of hearsay. Great post.
 
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Hi again Daniel, yes, it's true, I was tired :yawn: :sleep:

The question(s) that I was/am interested in having you answer for me is when, where, and by whom/by which Jewish council were the OT Scriptures canonized because, to the best of my knowledge anyway, we don't know if such a thing ever happened prior to the 1st Century.

Thanks!

--David

Canon is a greek concept, not a hebrew one. What matter is what books made the hands clean or unclean, I forget which..

In this article look for hands.

BIBLE CANON - JewishEncyclopedia.com
 
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footnote may apply: Any book outside of AND opposed to Scripture at all, cannot clean anything, hands, mind nor heart nor anything.

The saying is, "all Holy Writings(Sciptures) defile the hands or makes the hands unclean" paraphrased by me. (M. Yadayim 3.5).

Here is the exact passage:

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A scroll on which the writing has become erased and eighty-five letters remain, as many as are in the section beginning, "And it came to pass when the ark set forward" (Numbers 11:35-36) defiles the hands. A single sheet on which there are written eighty-five letters, as many as are in the section beginning, "And it came to pass when the ark set forward", defiles the hands. All the Holy Scriptures defile the hands. The Song of Songs and Kohelet (Ecclesiastes) defile the hands. Rabbi Judah says: the Song of Songs defiles the hands, but there is a dispute about Kohelet. Rabbi Yose says: Kohelet does not defile the hands, but there is a dispute about the Song of Songs. Rabbi Shimon says: [the ruling about] Kohelet is one of the leniencies of Bet Shammai and one of the stringencies of Bet Hillel. Rabbi Shimon ben Azzai said: I have received a tradition from the seventy-two elders on the day when they appointed Rabbi Elazar ben Azariah head of the academy that the Song of Songs and Kohelet defile the hands. Rabbi Akiba said: Far be it! No man in Israel disputed that the Song of Songs [saying] that it does not defile the hands. For the whole world is not as worthy as the day on which the Song of Songs was given to Israel; for all the writings are holy but the Song of Songs is the holy of holies. If they had a dispute, they had a dispute only about Kohelet. Rabbi Yohanan ben Joshua the son of the father-in-law of Rabbi Akiva said in accordance with the words of Ben Azzai: so they disputed and so they reached a decision."
Mishnah Yadayim 4
 
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I agree. That is the context and the plain meaning of the same. What’s interesting is that Revelation was one of the last books accepted in the canon of scripture.
That's a misconception.
 
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Who was authorized to canonize?
Where is it written that somebody could?

Paul had this to say

“To me, the very least of all saints, this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the unfathomable riches of Christ, and to bring to light what is the administration of the mystery which for ages has been hidden in God who created all things; so that the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known through the church to the rulers and the authorities in the heavenly places.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭3:8-10‬ ‭NASB‬‬
 
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Macc 1&2 or 3&4?
Only Georgian orthodox accepts 4 Maccabees.

As for 3 Maccabees this book seems to be more widely held. So I will alter my comment to; my Bible does not have Tobit and the three books of Maccabees.
 
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