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It is in the phone call transcript.
the. It should be easy to quote, because I read the transcript and it is not there.
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It is in the phone call transcript.
The Ukrainian president still has to kow-tow to Trump to prevent future issues with funding which may still happen. The thumb is still on him.and every bit of that is based on hearsay.
Ukrainian President didn’t even know the funding was held up
Ukrainian President has already stated he felt no pressure to do anything
Sondland stated specifically that the President made it crystal clear that there would be no quid pro quo
The finances were released with the Ukraine doing nothing further to get them.
And that is all first hand knowledge. Not hearsay.
...the potential witness queue grows:
".... it was learned Thursday that a second official from the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv was present when U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland spoke on a July 26 phone call from Ukraine with Trump that more directly ties the president to his administration’s effort to pressure Ukraine’s new leadership."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...3b27da-0660-11ea-8292-c46ee8cb3dce_story.html
While they reiterated the framework of the case these two witnesses had not spoken to the president, and could not establish motive. And it will likely come down to that. Republicans are unlikely to vote against Trump unless clear statements come out regarding his intent to sway the election, etc.
Yes, the White House released a memo summarizing a call where Donald attempted to trade a weapons deal to a foreign government in exchange for them interfering in our election process.Have we seen any first hand facts as of yet?
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...s-impeachment-facebook-misinformation-day-oneI like the face Taylor made finally - like "what nonsense is this?!?"
I was talking more about the fact that the evidence seems to pretty solidly implicate Donald in a bunch of criminal activity. Given that situation, it would be a bad strategy for Donald to focus on that evidence.It is only a bad time because the House started investigating it too late.
there is, at this time, nothing more than hearsay.
Taylor spoke with Ukraine President three times, no mention of anything
Taylor spoke with Ambassador, no mention.
Ukraine President was not even aware of the delay in funding
Trump tells Sonderlin (sp). No Wui pro quo
Sonderlin yells Taylor President is crystal clear night Quid pro quo.
President says no quid pro quo
Ukranine President says no Quid pro quo
Ukraine did nothing, zero, nadda and the money was released.
but hey! We have 2nd and 3rd hand hearsay of 6 people having 4 conversations that no one has testified to who has first hand knowledge.
it’s laughable.
As I mentioned, the best defense the Republicans have is to say that his intent was not to sway an election.
The public can think for themselves.
and every bit of that is based on hearsay.
Nixon replied: "Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal."One observation I have and it seems in both these witnesses had in their opening speeches is talking about the traditional policies the U.S. has had in regard to the Ukraine file and the impression they leave is what a surprising disturbing thing it is for President Trump to be doing things somewhat different in things he may or may not do. I was thinking when I was listening to this, hold on, hold on, hold on! Neither of you two gentlemen are the President of the United States! Well they might consider Trump might be doing something crazy. Yes maybe so. So what! It's THE PEOPLE and ONLY THE PEOPLE as in an election which have given him leadership. If THE PEOPLE have said YES for four years than that's what they mean.
For some reason your timeline omits that on Sept 9th (Three House Committees Launch Wide-Ranging Investigation into Trump-Giuliani Ukraine Scheme)
LOL ...My favorite part of all of yesterday.
their star witness. LOL
One observation I have and it seems in both these witnesses had in their opening speeches is talking about the traditional policies the U.S. has had in regard to the Ukraine file and the impression they leave is what a surprising disturbing thing it is for President Trump to be doing things somewhat different in things he may or may not do. I was thinking when I was listening to this, hold on, hold on, hold on! Neither of you two gentlemen are the President of the United States! Well they might consider Trump might be doing something crazy. Yes maybe so. So what! It's THE PEOPLE and ONLY THE PEOPLE as in an election which have given him leadership. If THE PEOPLE have said YES for four years than that's what they mean.
In sondland’s amended statement he makes it clear there was a quid pro quo, and he even says it was probably illegal. He spells it out pretty clearly.no, there was no quid pro quo because there wasn’t one.
the Primary people with FIRST hand knowledge from both sides say so. The FACT that the funds were released (Ukraine didn’t even know they were held up), without them doing anything additional
and that is the plain truth.
The· President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike . . . I guess you have one of your wealthy people . . . The server, they say Ukraine has it. There-are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation . . . I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to ·get to the bottom of it.
Later:
I will ask him (Rudy Guiliani) to call you along with the Attorney·General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United states, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in.the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, there's a lot of.talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you ·can look into it . . . It sounds horrible to me.
I highlighed the elliipses to point out this is clearly a phone call summary, not the full transcript, and how close they are to what Trump said that many people are upset about.