Should you leave a partner over weight gain/old age

Should you leave you’re wife over weight gain/old age

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Since you are tagged as divorced how do you handle this dichotomy in your own life ?
The divorce was over entirely different issues, 23 years ago. I don't want to air them here as it's not edifying or fair to my ex. She's remarried, I have not. I have no issue with remarrying, I think it's mostly I can't be bothered. Indeed, divorce is a miserable thing and I'd much rather it had not happened. But there are some instances where divorce is justified. If someone gets divorced, it is not the unforgivable sin. But some people's attitudes to marriage just stink.
 
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Probably a good idea before getting married
that the significant other promises
to always have a full mouth of teeth
to never be overweight
and always have a full head of hair.

Then all will be happy forever.

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I still don’t believe unconditional love exists, I still think a husband is in the right to leave his wife and find another younger prettier one ect because a wife would probably leave her husband if he didn’t bring money or the lifestyle to the table.

It’s one of those double standards
If a women divorces her husband because he can’t or doesn’t want to provide money or the lifestyle she wants, she’s met with praise, you deserve a better man ect.

Yet if a husband divorces his wife because she’s old or has gained weight his probably going to be labeled with all types of names.

It was very interesting to see the opinions of others though. I’m only a teenager so maybe my opinions will change later on idk.

What do the standards of the world have to do with the standards of Christ?

Why are you even asking such a question among Christians?

Do you expect us to agree that the standard of the world should be the standard in the Body of Christ?
 
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I do not believe relationships are unconditional love like many people claim, simple because if you’re partner did something horrible like rape/murder you probably wouldn’t love them anymore, which means you’re love isn’t unconditional.

Anyway If you as a husband/boyfriend said hey honey I’ve decided to quit my job and I’m not going to find another so you should just love me for who I am, or has hard financial times we all know the wife will more then likely file for divorce and find another guy because relationships aren’t unconditional love.

As the old saying goes broke men get no love.

So Wouldn’t that make it ok for a husband/boyfriend to leave his partner and replace them with a much younger prettier women if she gains to much weight or gets to old.

It’s basically the same concept.
You’re absolutely right. This is a very accurate description of how the world operates with respect to marriage. Believers do not act like the world.
 
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I still don’t believe unconditional love exists, I still think a husband is in the right to leave his wife and find another younger prettier one ect because a wife would probably leave her husband if he didn’t bring money or the lifestyle to the table.

Yes, I agree..... You are well within your right to leave your wife for a younger prettier woman. However, when you get this prettier woman, you will fall hard for her....and she will leave you for a better looking man. You will say she is mean and evil...how could she do this......woe is me. I will say, you are only harvesting the fruit of the seeds you chose to plant....

So Plant whatever seeds you desire to plant.......and remember what seed you planted when harvest time comes......you cannot plant apple seeds and reap oranges......it will only be apples.
 
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I do not believe relationships are unconditional love like many people claim, simple because if you’re partner did something horrible like rape/murder you probably wouldn’t love them anymore, which means you’re love isn’t unconditional.

Human beings apart from God don't love unconditionally. But when a person is living in humble submission to God, yielding themselves moment-by-moment to the will and way of the Holy Spirit, such love is possible. (Romans 5:5; Galatians 5:22) Consequently, every Christian is commanded to love in the unconditional way God has loved each of us:

1 John 4:10-11
10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.


But, I wonder about how a person would come to be romantically involved with someone who was willing to rape or murder. People don't just start raping and murdering out-of-the-blue, sweet, gentle and Christ-loving one day and Jeffrey Dahmer the next. A believer should only be romantically involved with a person who loves Jesus and is living their life in service to him. Generally speaking, such people aren't likely to rape and murder.

Anyway If you as a husband/boyfriend said hey honey I’ve decided to quit my job and I’m not going to find another so you should just love me for who I am, or has hard financial times we all know the wife will more then likely file for divorce and find another guy because relationships aren’t unconditional love.

Yes, those who don't know and love God do behave this way. But the Christian person is called to love with agape love, not contingent human love.

So Wouldn’t that make it ok for a husband/boyfriend to leave his partner and replace them with a much younger prettier women if she gains to much weight or gets to old.

If one is not a follower of Christ, all sorts of selfish reasons may be taken up as grounds for divorce. But for a lover of Jesus, the appearance of one's spouse has little to do with why one loves them.
 
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And we probably need to drop the whole "unconditional love" myth.

When Jesus commanded us that marriage is to be for life, He was talking to people whose marriages had been arranged, and particularly, that first marriage for men.

May your fountain be blessed, and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth. A loving doe, a graceful deer-- may her breasts satisfy you always, may you ever be intoxicated with her love. -- Proverbs 5

So guard yourselves in your spirit, and let none of you be faithless to the wife of your youth.-- Malachi 2

The "wife of your youth" was the marriage a young man's parents arranged. As he grew older and wealthier, he might arrange a second or third wife for himself, but the "wife of your youth" was the wife his parents arranged...not the wife of his own choice.

This was true across the board in those days, for Jews, for Greeks, and for Romans. Marriages were arranged. So, let's think about this: Marrying for love was not part of the picture drawn by Christ.

People did not marry who they loved, they loved who they married. And to those people, the Apostle Paul said, "Husbands, love your wives."

This is a command, it's an imperative. And even if we don't have arranged marriages (and I've learned there are some distinct advantages to arranged marriages, as long as the couple has a veto option), it still applies to all of us.

That's because people change over time. People always change over time. Even if that woman you fell in love with was perfect for you when you were first married, both you and she will change over time.

So that one day, you will look at the person you are married to and say, "This is not the person I fell in love with."

At that moment, you are just like someone who started out in an arranged marriage, and it becomes a deliberate decision on your part to love the person you have married.

 
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I do not believe relationships are unconditional love like many people claim, simple because if you’re partner did something horrible like rape/murder you probably wouldn’t love them anymore, which means you’re love isn’t unconditional.

Anyway If you as a husband/boyfriend said hey honey I’ve decided to quit my job and I’m not going to find another so you should just love me for who I am, or has hard financial times we all know the wife will more then likely file for divorce and find another guy because relationships aren’t unconditional love.

As the old saying goes broke men get no love.

So Wouldn’t that make it ok for a husband/boyfriend to leave his partner and replace them with a much younger prettier women if she gains to much weight or gets to old.

It’s basically the same concept.

No, the New Testament only gives two reasons that justify a divorce

-Adultry
-Abandonment by a non believing spouse

The reasons given only apply to the wounded party, not to the cheating spouse, or the one who walked out.

Gods's intent is for marriage to be a lifelong union between one man, and one woman.

Just because scripture says you can get a divorce for these reasons, does not always mean you should, there should always be a reasonable effort to reconcile.

However, what do you do for instance, if your husband comes home every payday at 2:00 am, and proceeds to beat his wife? Does she stay and take it until she has no teeth left, or, until he kills her? What about being forced to participate in depraved sexual behaviors? Does she have to stay until she gets multiple STD's, is humilated, or, ends up in jail, or dead?

I also understand about a spouse who just let's themselves go, no self respect, has no desire to loose weight, comb their hair, shower, get a job, or wipe the cookie Crumbs off the toddlers face...I understand all of that.

However, since we are believers, and trust in God, we have to accept the problems of a spouse who has let themselves go, try to help them, and remain faithful to our vows.

I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS
 
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I do not believe relationships are unconditional love like many people claim, simple because if you’re partner did something horrible like rape/murder you probably wouldn’t love them anymore, which means you’re love isn’t unconditional.

Anyway If you as a husband/boyfriend said hey honey I’ve decided to quit my job and I’m not going to find another so you should just love me for who I am, or has hard financial times we all know the wife will more then likely file for divorce and find another guy because relationships aren’t unconditional love.

As the old saying goes broke men get no love.

So Wouldn’t that make it ok for a husband/boyfriend to leave his partner and replace them with a much younger prettier women if she gains to much weight or gets to old.

It’s basically the same concept.

No because that's not what marriage is about. Dating maybe... you can break up for various reasons. But marriage you stick by that person. For better or for worse.

By the logic you stated, if it's OK to divorce someone for being fat and saggy, it's OK to divorce them because they aren't fun or pretty. Or because they're a bad cook. Or because they can't have children. or whatever other random selfish reason you can come up with. That's not love.

No.
 
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However, what do you do for instance, if your husband comes home every payday at 2:00 am, and proceeds to beat his wife? Does she stay and take it until she has no teeth left, or, until he kills her? What about being forced to participate in depraved sexual behaviors? Does she have to stay until she gets multiple STD's, is humilated, or, ends up in jail, or dead?

He doesn't have to leave the house to have left the marriage.
 
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I do not believe relationships are unconditional love like many people claim, simple because if you’re partner did something horrible like rape/murder you probably wouldn’t love them anymore, which means you’re love isn’t unconditional.

Anyway If you as a husband/boyfriend said hey honey I’ve decided to quit my job and I’m not going to find another so you should just love me for who I am, or has hard financial times we all know the wife will more then likely file for divorce and find another guy because relationships aren’t unconditional love.

As the old saying goes broke men get no love.

So Wouldn’t that make it ok for a husband/boyfriend to leave his partner and replace them with a much younger prettier women if she gains to much weight or gets to old.

It’s basically the same concept.
No it isn't.
 
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I still don’t believe unconditional love exists, I still think a husband is in the right to leave his wife and find another younger prettier one ect because a wife would probably leave her husband if he didn’t bring money or the lifestyle to the table.

It’s one of those double standards
If a women divorces her husband because he can’t or doesn’t want to provide money or the lifestyle she wants, she’s met with praise, you deserve a better man ect.

Yet if a husband divorces his wife because she’s old or has gained weight his probably going to be labeled with all types of names.

It was very interesting to see the opinions of others though. I’m only a teenager so maybe my opinions will change later on idk.
If you leave them for those reasons, you didn't really love them anyway. You do know that as a woman gets old and fat the man usually does too?
 
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I do not believe relationships are unconditional love like many people claim, simple because if you’re partner did something horrible like rape/murder you probably wouldn’t love them anymore, which means you’re love isn’t unconditional.

Anyway If you as a husband/boyfriend said hey honey I’ve decided to quit my job and I’m not going to find another so you should just love me for who I am, or has hard financial times we all know the wife will more then likely file for divorce and find another guy because relationships aren’t unconditional love.

As the old saying goes broke men get no love.

So Wouldn’t that make it ok for a husband/boyfriend to leave his partner and replace them with a much younger prettier women if she gains to much weight or gets to old.

It’s basically the same concept.
The only way to justifiably end marriage is adultery. Anything else is unbiblical.
 
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You’re absolutely right. This is a very accurate description of how the world operates with respect to marriage. Believers do not act like the world.
Too many do, or the OP would have seen UNconditional love , hopefully anyway... it is true for many people - they DO NOT SEE unconditional love - nor believers living as Christ Says and Does, so they may 'think' it is not anywhere....
UNLESS
they read, hear, and trust GOD'S WORD.
 
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I still don’t believe unconditional love exists, I still think a husband is in the right to leave his wife and find another younger prettier one ect because a wife would probably leave her husband if he didn’t bring money or the lifestyle to the table.

It’s one of those double standards
If a women divorces her husband because he can’t or doesn’t want to provide money or the lifestyle she wants, she’s met with praise, you deserve a better man ect.

Yet if a husband divorces his wife because she’s old or has gained weight his probably going to be labeled with all types of names.

It was very interesting to see the opinions of others though. I’m only a teenager so maybe my opinions will change later on idk.
There are definitely many double standards for what is viewed as "right" in any culture. Ultimately, knowing what Scripture says will help you determine what is "right" according to God. Do you invest yourself in reading and studying the Scriptures for this purpose?
 
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Ultimately, knowing what Scripture says will help you determine what is "right" according to God. Do you invest yourself in reading and studying the Scriptures for this purpose?
Clarify please, what that is different from the Scribes and Pharisees and Saducess (who "invested themselves" in reading and studying the Scriptures more than anyone today probably) , what that is different needs done or doing in order not to be opposed to Jesus and the Father ?
 
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Who were the scribes that often argued with Jesus? | GotQuestions.org
"Jews became increasingly known as “the people of the Book” because of their faithful study of Scripture, particularly the Law and how it should be followed. In the New Testament era, scribes were often associated with the sect of the Pharisees, although not all Pharisees were scribes (see Matthew 5:20; 12:38). They were teachers of the people (Mark 1:22) and interpreters of the Law. They were widely respected by the community because of their knowledge, dedication, and outward appearance of Law-keeping.

The scribes went beyond interpretation of Scripture, however, and added many man-made traditions to what God had said. They became professionals at spelling out the letter of the Law while ignoring the spirit behind it. Things became so bad that the regulations and traditions the scribes added to the Law were considered more important than the Law itself. This led to many confrontations between Jesus and the Pharisees and scribes. At the beginning of the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus shocked His audience by declaring that the righteousness of the scribes was not enough to get anyone to heaven (Matthew 5:20). A large portion of Jesus’ sermon then dealt with what the people had been taught (by the scribes) and what God actually wanted (Matthew 5:21–48)."

"The lesson every Christian can learn from the hypocrisy of the scribes is that God wants more than outward acts of righteousness. He wants an inward change of heart that is constantly yielding in love and obedience to Christ."
 
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I still don’t believe unconditional love exists, I still think a husband is in the right to leave his wife and find another younger prettier one ect because a wife would probably leave her husband if he didn’t bring money or the lifestyle to the table.

It’s one of those double standards
If a women divorces her husband because he can’t or doesn’t want to provide money or the lifestyle she wants, she’s met with praise, you deserve a better man ect.

Yet if a husband divorces his wife because she’s old or has gained weight his probably going to be labeled with all types of names.

It was very interesting to see the opinions of others though. I’m only a teenager so maybe my opinions will change later on idk.
Perhaps I know what you're getting at. I lost my wife for the sort of reason you are alluding to, I was depressed and needed to change the nature of my work, and needed help with that. She dumped me when I needed her the most because i was no longer an attractive proposition.
Our system and community not only allowed it completely consequence free, it actively encouraged it and rewarded her for her actions.

So my take on these things is that she was wrong and broke our relationship on unjustified grounds, and if I was to do the same thing on the grounds that she was no longer attractive to me then I too would have been wrong.
 
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Once you get married you are married for life apart from marital unfaithfulness, so the answer would be a big fat no. A man who leaves his wife due to age or weight gain and also quits his job is frankly a dead beat.

1Timothy:5-8
But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
 
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