THE TRUE "REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY/SUPERSESSIONISM" OF THE BIBLE

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When Christ was resurrected. Matthew 1:1, Psalm 110, Matthew 22:41-46.

......and Ephesians 1:19-23 ~ These are in accordance with the working of the strength of His might which He brought about in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.

Peter says that because David knew God had sworn to him with an oath that he would seat one of David’s descendants an David’s throne therefore David looked ahead and prophesied of the resurrection of Christ

Acts 2:30-36 ~
“And so, because he was a prophet and knew that GOD HAD SWORN TO HIM WITH AN OATH TO SEAT one OF HIS DESCENDANTS ON HIS THRONE, he looked ahead and spoke of the resurrection of the Christ, that HE WAS NEITHER ABANDONED TO HADES, NOR DID His flesh SUFFER DECAY. “This Jesus God raised up again, to which we are all witnesses. “Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured forth this which you both see and hear.

“For it was not David who ascended into heaven, but he himself says:
‘THE LORD SAID TO MY LORD,
“SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND,

UNTIL I MAKE YOUR ENEMIES A FOOTSTOOL FOR YOUR FEET.”’
“Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ—this Jesus whom you crucified.
 
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There are three prophetic statements which Christ would break if he were to reign on David’s throne in earthly Jerusalem.

1. Christ Will Be a Priest on His Throne
The Messiah was going to be both a king and a Priest on this throne, not a king only.

Psalm 110:4 (what Ebed mentioned already)
"Thou art a priest forever after the order of Melchizedec."

Melchisedec was king of Salem and a priest of God (Genesis 14:18). When the Psalmist likens the Messiah to Melchizedec he is saying that Messiah will be both king and priest.

Zechariah 6:12-13 ~
"He will be a, priest on his throne."

At the time this was spoken the king was Zerubbabel and the priest was Joshua. As In all of Israel’s history the offices of king and priest were held by different persons. But the Branch (the Messiah) would fill both offices. He would be a priest on his throne. He would be both priest and king.

The author of Hebrews has much to say about this matter of Christ being, after the order of Melchisedec, both a king and priest in Hebrews chapters 5 to 8. The conclusion is that "if Christ were on earth He would not be a priest" (Hebrews 8:4). The reason for this conclusion is that Christ was of the wrong tribe to be a priest on earth. He was of the tribe of Judah. To be a priest on earth He would have to be of the tribe of Levi. Jesus was not a Levite, so He could not be a priest an earth. If Christ could not be a priest an earth, yet had to be a priest on his throne It follows that his throne could not be on earth.


2. Christ is Jehoiachin’s Descendant
There is a prophecy concerning the throne of David which addresses king Jehoiachin, the second to last king to sit on David’s throne.

Jeremiah 22:28-30 ~"No man of his descendants will prosper sitting an the throne of David or ruling again in Judah"

Christ is a descendant of Jehoiachin and no descendant of Jehoiachin can prosper on David's throne in Jerusalem.

3. Christ Reigns When David Sleeps
Another prophecy says that Christ is to reign when David is asleep with his fathers.

2Samuel 7:12-16 ~ "When... you lie down with your fathers, I will raise up your descendant after you... I will establish the throne of his kingdom for ever".

This shows that Christ would reign while David was asleep with his fathers. In the Millennium (say the premillennialists) David is not going to be dead, but alive and well as one of the resurrected Old Testament saints.

If Christ is to reign while David is dead, and David will not be dead in the Millennial kingdom, then it stands to reason that Christ will not reign in the Millennial kingdom. His reign is in heaven.
 
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When Christ was resurrected. Matthew 1:1, Psalm 110, Matthew 22:41-46.

You bottom line motto says you declare yourself one of the 144,000 sealed! So which tribe are you from?
 
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What makes you think Christ applied His blood on the mercy seat?
That's the pattern laid out for us in Scripture for the requirements of the Day of Atonement. When Christ fulfilled this, obviously, it was His blood (figuratively).

Leviticus 16:14 ~ And he is to take some of the bull’s blood and sprinkle it with his finger on the east side of the mercy seat; then he shall sprinkle some of it with his finger seven times before the mercy seat.

Quoting from linked article:
Day of Atonement — Leviticus 16, 23:26-32

To make “atonement” is to make restitution for wrongs committed. As a day of humility and repentance to God, it was a time for the Jews to get their hearts, consciences and lives right before him. The observance involved the sacrifice of animals as the High Priest entered the Holy of Holies. What the High Priest did there couldn’t offer more than an annual payment for their sins. However, hiding in plain sight was the promise of one who could atone for their sins permanently (Hebrews 9:12). ~ 7 Feasts that Point to Christ - Wycliffe Bible Translators
 
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To answer your question-- NO! He did not establish teh prophesied kingdom, but He did establish the mystery form of teh kingdom.

What is the source of this hallucination?
 
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1Jo 4:2

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
That's not future.

1 John 4:2 Lexicon: By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God;

  • has come Strong's Greek: 2064. ἔρχομαι (erchomai) -- to come, go

    ETA: Okay, now I have seen this post of yours (quoted below). This may be worded more accurately:

    nolidad said:
    Which means this- A work that began in the past and continues into the future (2nd perfect) done by the person mentioned (active) and come is a participle and considered a verbal noun and is rendered in English with an "ing".
 
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nolidad said:
Which means this- A work that began in the past and continues into the future (2nd perfect) done by the person mentioned (active) and come is a participle and considered a verbal noun and is rendered in English with an "ing".
......adding to what I posted above - what you've described here is actually support for the belief that God HAS established His Kingdom already, as us amillennialists believe - and is actively building His Kingdom through His People.

Hidden But Now Revealed <--------Link to Book by G.K. Beale & Benjamin Gladd
 
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Because come is in the participle mood- it is translated with either "ed" or "ing" endings. Because the tense is second perfect and active (meaning the subject is the doer who is Jesus) the verb come should have the "ing" ending thus showing Jesus is coming in the flesh!

Not one English version (including Darby) translates the Greek as "is coming".

Are you reading from the round file version again?
 
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When Christ was resurrected. Matthew 1:1, Psalm 110, Matthew 22:41-46.


Where is it written that Christ took the throne of David, which was on earth, into Heaven?
 
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Where is it written that Christ took the throne of David, which was on earth, into Heaven?

Are you not familiar with the prophecy of Isaiah 9:6-7? It's most popular as we go into the Christmas season:
6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.
7 There will be no end to the increase of His government or of peace, On the throne of David and over his kingdom, To establish it and to uphold it with justice and righteousness From then on and forevermore. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will accomplish this.

Then you have Acts 2:29-34 as Peter preaches on Pentecost:
29 “Brethren, I may confidently say to you regarding the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day.
30 And so, because he was a prophet and knew that God had sworn to him with an oath to seat one of his descendants on his throne,
31 he looked ahead and spoke of the resurrection of the Christ, that He was neither abandoned to Hades, nor did His flesh suffer decay.
32 This Jesus God raised up again, to which we are all witnesses.
33 Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured forth this which you both see and hear.
34 For it was not David who ascended into heaven, but he himself says: ‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand,
35 Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.”’
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ—this Jesus whom you crucified.
 
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To answer your question-- NO! He did not establish teh prophesied kingdom, but He did establish the mystery form of teh kingdom.

How tragic.

If you're a dispensationalist, you've just been informed that you are not a citizen of the kingdom described here:

Matthew 3
1 In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,
2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Matthew 4
17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.

Matthew 6
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Matthew 9
35 And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.

Matthew 10
7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Mark 1
14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.


Instead, you've all been diverted into some other mythical mystical kingdom.

Since it's a mystery, you don't understand anything about it.

Imagine that.

Jesus had a sense of humor.

Matthew 23
24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

He would have enjoyed the joke of “the mystery form of the kingdom”.
 
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That's the pattern laid out for us in Scripture for the requirements of the Day of Atonement. When Christ fulfilled this, obviously, it was His blood (figuratively).

Leviticus 16:14 ~ And he is to take some of the bull’s blood and sprinkle it with his finger on the east side of the mercy seat; then he shall sprinkle some of it with his finger seven times before the mercy seat.

Quoting from linked article:
Day of Atonement — Leviticus 16, 23:26-32

To make “atonement” is to make restitution for wrongs committed. As a day of humility and repentance to God, it was a time for the Jews to get their hearts, consciences and lives right before him. The observance involved the sacrifice of animals as the High Priest entered the Holy of Holies. What the High Priest did there couldn’t offer more than an annual payment for their sins. However, hiding in plain sight was the promise of one who could atone for their sins permanently (Hebrews 9:12). ~ 7 Feasts that Point to Christ - Wycliffe Bible Translators
Then I would have to ask you to carefully read Hebrews 9 and reconsider. The point made there is that everything in the tabernacle speaks of Christ. The High Priest, on The Day of Atonement, would sprinkle blood on the mercy seat. Now...with Christ as our High Priest, because of the shedding of His own blood, He is also the mercy seat...it is from Him we receive mercy. It is God who says "I will have mercy, on whom I will have mercy".
 
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You bottom line motto says you declare yourself one of the 144,000 sealed! So which tribe are you from?
The understanding of the 144,000 sealed is they are "The Israel of God"...people from every tribe, nation, kindred, and tongue. Therefore, it doesn't matter.
 
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Then I would have to ask you to carefully read Hebrews 9 and reconsider. The point made there is that everything in the tabernacle speaks of Christ. The High Priest, on The Day of Atonement, would sprinkle blood on the mercy seat. Now...with Christ as our High Priest, because of the shedding of His own blood, He is also the mercy seat...it is from Him we receive mercy. It is God who says "I will have mercy, on whom I will have mercy".
I completely agree. I'm unsure of why you'd think I don't?
 
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I completely agree. I'm unsure of why you'd think I don't?
Because in your post you said Christ sprinkled His blood on the mercy seat in heaven. That cannot be possible when Christ is the mercy seat.
 
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What is the source of this hallucination?

A little Book called the
bible!

Daniel 7:27
Then the kingdom and dominion,
And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven,
Shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High.
His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,
And all dominions shall serve and obey Him."

Acts 3:19-21
Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that He may send Jesus Christ, who was preached to you before, whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.

Psalm 2:6-8
“Yet I have set My King
On My holy hill of Zion.” “I will declare the decree:
The LORD has said to Me,
‘You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.
Ask of Me, and I will give You
The nations for Your inheritance,
And the ends of the earth for Your possession.

Isaiah 9:6-7
For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Of the increase of His government and peace
There will beno end,
Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom,
To order it and establish it with judgment and justice
From that time forward, even forever.
The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

Isaiah 11:6-10
' The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb,
The leopard shall lie down with the young goat,
The calf and the young lion and the fatling together;
And a little child shall lead them.
The cow and the bear shall graze;
Their young ones shall lie down together;
And the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
The nursing child shall play by the cobra's hole,
And the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper's den.
They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain,
For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD
As the waters cover the sea.
' And in that day there shall be a Root of Jesse,
Who shall stand as a banner to the people;
For the Gentiles shall seek Him,
And His resting place shall be glorious.'

Zechariah 14:9
And the LORD shall be King over all the earth.
In that day it shall be—
“ The LORD is one,”
And His name one.

Isaiah 2:2
Now it shall come to pass in the latter days
Thatthe mountain of the LORD’s house
Shall be established on the top of the mountains,
And shall be exalted above the hills;
And all nations shall flow to it.

Daniel 7:21-22
"I was watching; and the same horn was making war against the saints, and prevailing against them, until the Ancient of Days came, and a judgment was made in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came for the saints to possess the kingdom.

Zechariah 14:16-19
And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, on them there will be no rain. If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the LORD strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.


31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

Amongst many many others!

Right now we have been born from above and are citizens of heaven (where the king as high priest now resides) But one day the King will return and fight the nations and establish the kingdom as sthese verses show!
 
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A little Book called the
bible!

Daniel 7:27
Then the kingdom and dominion,
And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven,
Shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High.
His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,
And all dominions shall serve and obey Him."

Acts 3:19-21
Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that He may send Jesus Christ, who was preached to you before, whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.

Psalm 2:6-8
“Yet I have set My King
On My holy hill of Zion.” “I will declare the decree:
The LORD has said to Me,
‘You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.
Ask of Me, and I will give You
The nations for Your inheritance,
And the ends of the earth for Your possession.

Isaiah 9:6-7
For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Of the increase of His government and peace
There will beno end,
Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom,
To order it and establish it with judgment and justice
From that time forward, even forever.
The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

Isaiah 11:6-10
' The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb,
The leopard shall lie down with the young goat,
The calf and the young lion and the fatling together;
And a little child shall lead them.
The cow and the bear shall graze;
Their young ones shall lie down together;
And the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
The nursing child shall play by the cobra's hole,
And the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper's den.
They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain,
For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD
As the waters cover the sea.
' And in that day there shall be a Root of Jesse,
Who shall stand as a banner to the people;
For the Gentiles shall seek Him,
And His resting place shall be glorious.'

Zechariah 14:9
And the LORD shall be King over all the earth.
In that day it shall be—
“ The LORD is one,”
And His name one.

Isaiah 2:2
Now it shall come to pass in the latter days
Thatthe mountain of the LORD’s house
Shall be established on the top of the mountains,
And shall be exalted above the hills;
And all nations shall flow to it.

Daniel 7:21-22
"I was watching; and the same horn was making war against the saints, and prevailing against them, until the Ancient of Days came, and a judgment was made in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came for the saints to possess the kingdom.

Zechariah 14:16-19
And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, on them there will be no rain. If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the LORD strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.


31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

Amongst many many others!

Right now we have been born from above and are citizens of heaven (where the king as high priest now resides) But one day the King will return and fight the nations and establish the kingdom as sthese verses show!

Where's the mystery?
 
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Are you not familiar with the prophecy of Isaiah 9:6-7? It's most popular as we go into the Christmas season:
6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.
7 There will be no end to the increase of His government or of peace, On the throne of David and over his kingdom, To establish it and to uphold it with justice and righteousness From then on and forevermore. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will accomplish this.

Then you have Acts 2:29-34 as Peter preaches on Pentecost:
29 “Brethren, I may confidently say to you regarding the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day.
30 And so, because he was a prophet and knew that God had sworn to him with an oath to seat one of his descendants on his throne,
31 he looked ahead and spoke of the resurrection of the Christ, that He was neither abandoned to Hades, nor did His flesh suffer decay.
32 This Jesus God raised up again, to which we are all witnesses.
33 Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured forth this which you both see and hear.
34 For it was not David who ascended into heaven, but he himself says: ‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand,
35 Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.”’
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ—this Jesus whom you crucified.


Christ is destined to bring His reign to the earth when He returns and therefore, it only makes sense to see Him on the throne of David in that day and the throne of David was established on the earth.
 
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Christ is destined to bring His reign to the earth when He returns and therefore, it only makes sense to see Him on the throne of David in that day and the throne of David was established on the earth.
Colossians 1:13-20 disagrees with you:
13 For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son,
14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.
16 For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him.
17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.
18 He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything.
19 For it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him,
20 and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.

If the kingdom isn't existent now, how can saints be "translated" into it?
 
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