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Interesting day it was. I have a lot of thoughts swirling around.
First, the GOP had no defense. It was pathetic. Nunes just stated conspiracy junk.
House Republicans Did A Really Bad Job Defending Trump From Ukraine Allegations
They ignored many things -like that Trump only released aid 2 days after the current inquiry was announced, and less than a day before the planned televised announcement that Trump wanted was going to happen by President Zelensky. Keep in mind that this was on Sept. 11th, and that the fiscal year for congress ends on Sept. 30th. Was Trump trying to avoid giving any money at all to Ukraine? That would have made Putin happy. On Sept. 26th congress extended the money given to Ukraine:
Senate passes Ukraine aid extension, averts government shutdown for now
They repeatedly commented on how Trump did more for Ukraine than Obama - ignoring that through most of Obama's administration, Ukraine was led by a pro-Russia president helped into office by former Trump campaign head Paul Manafort.
They repeatedly commented on the idea that this was all hearsay, though first hand witnesses will be coming up and the day's witnesses had first hand knowledge, too, along with second had information. They ignore the fact that the White House is obstructing justice in refusing to cooperate with the House investigation.
Second, the witnesses were sterling! They have led lives of service to the US and were unassailable. Taylor, in particular, was clearly showing he was being nonpartisan. And there is this:
Democrats land damning new evidence in impeachment testimony
Third, my favorite moment was this:
The first 20 seconds are great where he invites President Trump to testify.
I am glad I am retired and can watch the whole thing.
First, the GOP had no defense. It was pathetic. Nunes just stated conspiracy junk.
House Republicans Did A Really Bad Job Defending Trump From Ukraine Allegations
Throughout the nearly six-hour hearing, Republican members of the House Intelligence Committee veered between defending the idea of investigating corruption in Ukraine, and Hunter Biden in particular, and simultaneously claiming it was outrageous to suggest the president would do so. They shouted easily refutable criticism of the witnesses’ testimony and spoke of baseless conspiracy theories popularized in the deep reaches of conservative media. At times the witnesses — both experts in U.S. policy on Ukraine — appeared confused by the far-right line of questioning.
They ignored many things -like that Trump only released aid 2 days after the current inquiry was announced, and less than a day before the planned televised announcement that Trump wanted was going to happen by President Zelensky. Keep in mind that this was on Sept. 11th, and that the fiscal year for congress ends on Sept. 30th. Was Trump trying to avoid giving any money at all to Ukraine? That would have made Putin happy. On Sept. 26th congress extended the money given to Ukraine:
Senate passes Ukraine aid extension, averts government shutdown for now
The legislation — which primarily serves to extend government funding to Nov. 21, beyond the end of the fiscal year on Sept. 30 — would extend for another year $250 million in Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative funds that are set to expire.
After a two-month freeze, the White House released the aid earlier this month under pressure from lawmakers who said Ukraine needed to help in its ongoing conflict with Russian-backed separatists. Lawmakers had expressed fears Kyiv would not have enough time to spend the money.
After a two-month freeze, the White House released the aid earlier this month under pressure from lawmakers who said Ukraine needed to help in its ongoing conflict with Russian-backed separatists. Lawmakers had expressed fears Kyiv would not have enough time to spend the money.
They repeatedly commented on how Trump did more for Ukraine than Obama - ignoring that through most of Obama's administration, Ukraine was led by a pro-Russia president helped into office by former Trump campaign head Paul Manafort.
They repeatedly commented on the idea that this was all hearsay, though first hand witnesses will be coming up and the day's witnesses had first hand knowledge, too, along with second had information. They ignore the fact that the White House is obstructing justice in refusing to cooperate with the House investigation.
Second, the witnesses were sterling! They have led lives of service to the US and were unassailable. Taylor, in particular, was clearly showing he was being nonpartisan. And there is this:
Democrats land damning new evidence in impeachment testimony
The most explosive revelation came from Taylor, who told lawmakers that one of his aides overheard Gordon Sondland — the U.S. ambassador to the European Union and a top Trump campaign donor — on the phone with the president, during which the aide could hear Trump ask about “the investigations.” Taylor said Sondland told the president that the Ukrainians were “ready to move forward.”
The aide told Taylor that Sondland subsequently relayed “that President Trump cares more about the investigations of Biden, which [Rudy] Giuliani was pressing for.” Taylor said he was “not aware of this information” when he testified at a private deposition on Oct. 22, and learned of it only last week.
The aide is David Holmes, a source familiar with the matter told POLITICO.
Impeachment investigators announced during the hearing that Holmes, an official at the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine, is scheduled to testify behind closed doors on Friday, an indication that Democrats’ efforts to unearth new information is active even as they have begun making their public sales pitch to the American people. It is also a reflection of how rapidly the investigation has unfolded, yielding new and often startling evidence on a near-daily basis that has fueled the party’s drive toward the third presidential impeachment in U.S. history.
The aide told Taylor that Sondland subsequently relayed “that President Trump cares more about the investigations of Biden, which [Rudy] Giuliani was pressing for.” Taylor said he was “not aware of this information” when he testified at a private deposition on Oct. 22, and learned of it only last week.
The aide is David Holmes, a source familiar with the matter told POLITICO.
Impeachment investigators announced during the hearing that Holmes, an official at the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine, is scheduled to testify behind closed doors on Friday, an indication that Democrats’ efforts to unearth new information is active even as they have begun making their public sales pitch to the American people. It is also a reflection of how rapidly the investigation has unfolded, yielding new and often startling evidence on a near-daily basis that has fueled the party’s drive toward the third presidential impeachment in U.S. history.
Third, my favorite moment was this:
The first 20 seconds are great where he invites President Trump to testify.
I am glad I am retired and can watch the whole thing.