No way. Do not try to pin the error of Universalism on me.
As long as you do not pin the fallacy of the two people of God on me!
Do you accept all the teachings of covenant theologians starting with Augustine?
Do you accept all the allegorical opinions of all who hold to allegorical interpretations since the time of Augustine?
I can play tit for tat and bring in lots of really bizaare apostate teachings from some of your side!
As for your quotes from Chafer and Walvoord. I would need to see the fuller context of these quotes to know if you are selectively cherry picking or putting them in their full context. It would not be the first time a covenant theologian pulled a quote out of its fuller context and vice versa.
I have no problem with Walvoords quote other than that the church is the bride of Christ and we co-reign with HIm for the 1,000 years.
I watched that less than impactful video before but for you I will watch it again and will answer His objections. Unless I missed the vote somewhere- He is not the arbiter of what teh Bible means or the ex-catherdra pontificate as to what is right or wrong with dispensationalism.
I can probably point out more problems within dispensationalism than this guy can! Most of it comes from a lack of full understanding of Gods purpose for Israel, the church and the millenial kingdom.
Let me ask you a question. Do you believe Jesus is kIng of Kings and Lord of Lords for eternity?
But all the dispensationalists I now recognize that the distinction between Israel and the church is for the Millenial Kingdom (which most of your people deny) and that when eternity roles around- we don't know what or if there are any distinctions.
But one thing the bible is absolutely clear of- Only those who trust in teh death burial and resurrection of Jesus for their sins can be part of the church which is the bride of Christ! That is not something OT saints can claim. Even John the Baptist recognized this.
Even Jesus told Peter that upon the rock of Jesus being th eMerssiah- He WILL (future) build His church- NOT has been builkding or will continue to build HIs church!
But the fact that Israel is promised a future kingdom , even Jesus confirmed in Acts 2 as is extensively written about in the OT.
The fact that Israel became a nation again in a day as prophesied (but rejected by covenant believers) is proof God is not done with Israel.
The fact that Israel will be invaded in the future by Russia, Iran, Libya and other nations as prophesied will happen.
Once again covenant theology establishes its belief system by rejecting the plain normal usage of words as allegorizes them away!
35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:
36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
did God Lie here???? or below?? or have past allegorists tried ot make God a liar by spiritualizing this promise away?
Zechariah 14 King James Version (KJV)
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.
14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.
15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, Holiness Unto The Lord; and the pots in the Lord's house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the Lord of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts.