LDS The Mormon Adam Was Baptized & Held the Priesthood

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...When Adam learned that the way back to God’s presence was through Jesus Christ and that he should be baptized “in the name of mine Only Begotten Son, who is full of grace and truth, which is Jesus Christ, the only name which shall be given under heaven, whereby salvation shall come unto the children of men” (Moses 6:52), he was baptized (see Moses 6:64). Then “the Spirit of God descended upon him, and thus he was born of the Spirit, and became quickened in the inner man.

“And he heard a voice out of heaven, saying: Thou art baptized with fire, and with the Holy Ghost. This is the record of the Father, and the Son, from henceforth and forever;

“And thou art after the order of him who was without beginning of days or end of years, from all eternity to all eternity.

“Behold, thou art one in me, a son of God; and thus may all become my sons. Amen” (Moses 6:65–68).

These events clearly show that even in Adam’s time the Savior’s central role in the plan was known and that compliance with divine instruction and participation in prescribed priesthood ordinances was required to be born of God. To become once again a child of God requires a change from a state of sin to a state of righteousness, becoming a new creature, as it were (see Mosiah 27:25–26). The result can be that we, like Adam, are permitted to enjoy the presence of God.

In order for Adam to fulfill his role as patriarch of the human family and provide ordinances for their salvation, it was necessary for him to hold the priesthood with all its attendant keys. The Prophet Joseph Smith said that Adam stood next to Christ in priesthood authority relative to those who have lived on earth: “How have we come at the Priesthood in the last days? It came down in regular succession. Peter, James, and John had it given to them and they gave it to others. Christ is the Great High Priest; Adam next” (Teachings, 158). Adam “held its keys from generation to generation” with “Adam receiving his Presidency and authority from the Lord” (Teachings, 169; see also D&C 78:15–16). “The keys have to be brought from heaven whenever the Gospel is sent. When they are revealed from heaven, it is by Adam’s authority. … He (Adam) is the father of the human family, and presides over the spirits of all men, and all that have had the keys must stand before him,” said Joseph Smith (Teachings, 157).
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...When Adam learned that the way back to God’s presence was through Jesus Christ and that he should be baptized “in the name of mine Only Begotten Son, who is full of grace and truth, which is Jesus Christ, the only name which shall be given under heaven, whereby salvation shall come unto the children of men” (Moses 6:52), he was baptized (see Moses 6:64). Then “the Spirit of God descended upon him, and thus he was born of the Spirit, and became quickened in the inner man.

“And he heard a voice out of heaven, saying: Thou art baptized with fire, and with the Holy Ghost. This is the record of the Father, and the Son, from henceforth and forever;

“And thou art after the order of him who was without beginning of days or end of years, from all eternity to all eternity.

“Behold, thou art one in me, a son of God; and thus may all become my sons. Amen” (Moses 6:65–68).

These events clearly show that even in Adam’s time the Savior’s central role in the plan was known and that compliance with divine instruction and participation in prescribed priesthood ordinances was required to be born of God. To become once again a child of God requires a change from a state of sin to a state of righteousness, becoming a new creature, as it were (see Mosiah 27:25–26). The result can be that we, like Adam, are permitted to enjoy the presence of God.

In order for Adam to fulfill his role as patriarch of the human family and provide ordinances for their salvation, it was necessary for him to hold the priesthood with all its attendant keys. The Prophet Joseph Smith said that Adam stood next to Christ in priesthood authority relative to those who have lived on earth: “How have we come at the Priesthood in the last days? It came down in regular succession. Peter, James, and John had it given to them and they gave it to others. Christ is the Great High Priest; Adam next” (Teachings, 158). Adam “held its keys from generation to generation” with “Adam receiving his Presidency and authority from the Lord” (Teachings, 169; see also D&C 78:15–16). “The keys have to be brought from heaven whenever the Gospel is sent. When they are revealed from heaven, it is by Adam’s authority. … He (Adam) is the father of the human family, and presides over the spirits of all men, and all that have had the keys must stand before him,” said Joseph Smith (Teachings, 157).
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Oh, really. Do you think Adam was baptized and held the Melchizedek priesthood?

Never mind. It's another kooky idea from Paul that is unsupported by any other author. I wonder if he did some bad mushrooms out on the road and that's what blinded him for three days. Jesus is not known for blinding people.

For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. (1 Cor. 15:22)

Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. (1 Cor. 15:45)

The first man [Adam] was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man [Jesus] is from heaven. (1 Cor. 15:47)

Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven. (1 Cor. 15:49)
 
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Was Adam a Christian?

No.

But he is now.

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Who baptized him?

Nobody, because Adam never received baptism.

Baptism was instituted by Jesus Christ, commissioning His Church to make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. Prior to this nobody received Christian Baptism because it did not yet exist. The first incident of Christian Baptism is recorded in the 2nd chapter of the Acts, in which following St. Peter's sermon to the pilgrims in Jerusalem, three thousand received Baptism and were added to the Church (Acts of the Apostles 2:41).

To ask who baptized Adam is a nonsense question. It's like asking how Julius Caesar celebrated Bastille Day or Thanksgiving.

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Nobody, because Adam never received baptism.

Baptism was instituted by Jesus Christ, commissioning His Church to make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. Prior to this nobody received Christian Baptism because it did not yet exist. The first incident of Christian Baptism is recorded in the 2nd chapter of the Acts, in which following St. Peter's sermon to the pilgrims in Jerusalem, three thousand received Baptism and were added to the Church (Acts of the Apostles 2:41).

To ask who baptized Adam is a nonsense question. It's like asking how Julius Caesar celebrated Bastille Day or Thanksgiving.

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If Adam was not baptized, how is he a Christian?
 
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Not to worry---Christ's baptism covers everyone who wasn't.
Where is this mentioned in the Bible? Rather the Bible says this:

(New Testament | John 3:5 - 7)

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 15:29)

29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?
 
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If Adam was not baptized, how is he a Christian?

All of the saints who came before, who are in the Lord's presence now, can be said to be Christians by virtue of Christ. They are with the Lord. And all which belong to Him and are His can be called Christian.

Besides this, we should not prohibit God's mercy. That there are those who by circumstance or ignorance did not receive Baptism; this does not negate God's word and promise. Such as we see in the case of the penitent thief on the cross to whom Christ says, "Truly I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise."

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All of the saints who came before, who are in the Lord's presence now, can be said to be Christians by virtue of Christ. They are with the Lord. And all which belong to Him and are His can be called Christian.

Besides this, we should not prohibit God's mercy. That there are those who by circumstance or ignorance did not receive Baptism; this does not negate God's word and promise. Such as we see in the case of the penitent thief on the cross to whom Christ says, "Truly I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise."

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You said: "All of the saints who came before, who are in the Lord's presence now, can be said to be Christians by virtue of Christ."

Where do you get this strange doctrine? Where is paradise?
 
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You said: "All of the saints who came before, who are in the Lord's presence now, can be said to be Christians by virtue of Christ."

Where do you get this strange doctrine?

It's not really a doctrine so much as a general statement. If someone was a Buddhist in this life, having never heard of the name of Jesus, and yet by God's mercy are ultimately found in the Life of the Age to Come--well they wouldn't be a Buddhist any longer, they'd be a Christian.

Where is paradise?

Paradise was the "place" of the righteous dead in She'ol, whereas Gehenna was the "place" of the wicked dead. See the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus.

Additionally, Paradise was sometimes said to be "located" in the third heaven in 2nd Temple period literature, such as in the Book of Enoch. But also according to St. Paul in 2 Corinthians.

I don't think the question of "where" makes much sense however, as location only makes sense in the observable, material universe.

The issue isn't location, but rather the condition and state of the person; is one reckoned among the righteous or among the wicked. Between death and resurrection there is a foretaste of what is to come. But in Christ we can with confidence say that we hope that when we are separated from the body we will be present with the Lord, as He Himself has promised, "That where I am you will be also."

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It's not really a doctrine so much as a general statement. If someone was a Buddhist in this life, having never heard of the name of Jesus, and yet by God's mercy are ultimately found in the Life of the Age to Come--well they wouldn't be a Buddhist any longer, they'd be a Christian.



Paradise was the "place" of the righteous dead in She'ol, whereas Gehenna was the "place" of the wicked dead. See the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus.

Additionally, Paradise was sometimes said to be "located" in the third heaven in 2nd Temple period literature, such as in the Book of Enoch. But also according to St. Paul in 2 Corinthians.

I don't think the question of "where" makes much sense however, as location only makes sense in the observable, material universe.

The issue isn't location, but rather the condition and state of the person; is one reckoned among the righteous or among the wicked. Between death and resurrection there is a foretaste of what is to come. But in Christ we can with confidence say that we hope that when we are separated from the body we will be present with the Lord, as He Himself has promised, "That where I am you will be also."

-CryptoLutheran
I believe that that was very clear about baptism being a necessary ordinance that must be performed in order to enter the kingdom of God:

(New Testament | John 3:5 - 7)

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Baptism for the dead is also mentioned:

(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 15:29)

29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?

As you say Paradise is indeed in the spirit world, but it is not the kingdom of heaven.
 
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