- Apr 7, 2012
- 8,932
- 768
- 62
- Faith
- Christian
- Marital Status
- Married
Read carefully from your own post:
He "works" all things after the counsel of His will - including the results of our bad choices.
He "ordained" what comes to pass to come to pass.
The two statements are obviously different.
I don't have to choose between them. Both are true. An example follows.
Right up front since you seem prone to misrepresent other people's beliefs - God did not author the sins of Caiaphas - they were all his choice to do or not to do. Any charge that I or the Calvinists teach different are simply lies at this stage since we have said so many times and in so many ways that God does no violence to the relatively free will of men.
But He did ordain that those choices occur or come to pass in history according to the clear teaching that we find in the book of acts.
He also worked those evil choices together for good for those who believe on Christ - all according to His sovereign will to so work.
Both are true.
The only way to say that they can not both be true is to change one of the constructs (i.e. - "lie" about what is being said in one or both statements).
Of course that's quite common here. Hopefully you won't do so in your next post. You can of course. It is likely that God won't stop you. But that would be a sinful choice that God allows you to make (and that you were also predestined to make by the way even though you would not be coerced by God to do so).
It's either silly, ignorant, or evil. I choose to call you silly because you say such silly things.
Please explain how God didn't author Caiaphas' sins, yet ordained them.
Also, you didn't answer my other question. Have you considered the Ephesians passage in context?
Upvote
0