Do God protect His chosen from rape?
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For what it is worth, the Orthodox Church also teaches that believers are saints in the context of the Scriptures you posted. We don’t dispute those verses. (There are multiple contexts for us when talking about saints). Some things being said here do not reflect the teachings of the Church as a whole.
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Or Job, St Paul with all his trials, St John the Baptist, St James the son of Zebedee, Holy Apostle Philip, St James the ‘brother’ of Christ, St Peter, St Barnabas and more
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When Paul wrote to a church, he often addressed the believers at that church, as saints; people who were IN Christ and called to be holy. He, and Jesus, said that believers could be filled with God's Holy Spirit.
I don't know how you define the word "saint", but there is nothing in the NT to suggest that this is an honour that is given to only a few special people.
ALL believers are called to be born again, John 3:3 and be filled with the Spirit. ALL believers can be sons of God, John 1:12, Romans 8:16-17 and have every spiritual blessing in Christ, Ephesians 1:3.
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Okay, I see intend to evade the question rather than engage in forthright discussion.
When the members of the Sanhedrin heard this, they were furious and gnashed their teeth at him. But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. 56 “Look,” he said, “I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”
At this they covered their ears and, yelling at the top of their voices, they all rushed at him, dragged him out of the city and began to stone him. Meanwhile, the witnesses laid their coats at the feet of a young man named Saul.
While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”
Scripture explicitly says that Stephen was stoned. It does not say that God prevented them from stoning him. It does not say that the stones never touched him, or that they did not cause any physical harm to him.
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Thanks for explaining what your mind revealed to you. Have you asked the Father to reveal it to you as well, or was there no need because the explanation of the mind was sufficient enough for you?
What does your mind tell you concerning seeing Jesus standing next to a being recognized as God? How does it reconcile them being One....and which does it suggest you pray to......since we are focusing on the letter, and not spirit.....and we have no choice, as the mind cannot understand the things of the spirit.
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I understand. I dont not wish to prove who has the most of Man's wisdom. When you are ready to go further, let me know:
"Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
3 And this will we do, if God permit."
But take your time....your Father will keep the calf waiting for your return.
I say lets go now For I am thirsty for living waters....But if you want to try you chances after the grave,,after which there is no repentance, who am I to say no?
verily I say....
"And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?"
"Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
3 And this will we do, if God permit."
But take your time....your Father will keep the calf waiting for your return.
I say lets go now For I am thirsty for living waters....But if you want to try you chances after the grave,,after which there is no repentance, who am I to say no?
verily I say....
"And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?"
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It seems that that's about all we can do. Other than that, it would be easy to assume that people who believe that way must be either very young, or very isolated. If they've been on this earth for awhile, they've witnessed people dying. They've been to the funerals of loved ones who were believers. However, I'm sure they've never met anyone who says they're a "true Christian" and have been alive for the past 200 or 500 or maybe even 1500 years. Heck, if there's no single person on this earth who has been alive for the past 2,000 years, it means that every single person who was alive and got saved in the days of the early church just after Christ Himself and the apostles were here were never truly saved because they all died.
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What he revealed to you was what scripture (the words of the Master) says. Does thou not believeth scripture?
Wow, dude! Just WOW!
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In all my time here, I have never witnessed such a display of arrogance, self righteousness, judgement and passive-aggressiveness in a single post.
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