Do God protect His chosen from rape?

yeshuaslavejeff said:

I think most of the world does not trust America. (with good reason ? )

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Yes, it seems wise as well, not to trust the sins of carpenters.... (with good reason?) Fit where you come from, does matter. (Doesn't it?)

Jamdoc said:

You're twisting the promise into something it's not intended. My faith is in the resurrection, then eternal life. Not eternal life on this world in this body.
Jesus lived, he died, he rose. back to life.
That is the example.
That is what I believe
That is where I place my faith.

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I am the only one here who seems to believe the masters words as is, with no additions, subtractions or explanations, more believable to the carnal mind.

Are you able to take his word as is, without leaning to your own understanding?

pasifika said:

Hello, because the question by the Lord is about spiritual life by being continuously in connection with Him...whoever lives by believing in me will never die..you cannot feed your physical body by believing something but by physical food...believing is the result of being spiritually feeding by the Word...

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Like I said before, your answer is , "yay lord, but only if you are taking about spiritual life" And I understand this. You want salvation your way. We desire a path easiest understood by the carnal mind....which, unfortunately, cannot understand the things of the spirit.

Are you able to except a gift as is, or must you examine its contents first?.....And except or reject based on what you believe to be therein?

RaymondG said:

Like I said before, your answer is , "yay lord, but only if you are taking about spiritual life" And I understand this. You want salvation your way. We desire a path easiest understood by the carnal mind....which, unfortunately, cannot understand the things of the spirit.

Are you able to except a gift as is, or must you examine its contents first?.....And except or reject based on what you believe to be therein?

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Yes, the word of the Lord is truth and life...but I am still in bondage to sin by the desire of my flesh...in saying that, I have hope the hope of being free from this bondage and a life which is everlasting. "Believe" is a deep word...it's comes from knowing someone, It does not happen when you first met or hear about someone but a result of daily meditate, learn and practice....I would say believe is the deeper knowledge of Christ..

So, my answer to the question by Jesus in John 11:26...do you believe? Yes Lord I believe, please help my unbelief...

RaymondG said:

I am the only one here who seems to believe the masters words as is, with no additions, subtractions or explanations, more believable to the carnal mind.

Are you able to take his word as is, without leaning to your own understanding?

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His words speak quite literally of resurrection, and a new creation.

pasifika said:

Yes, physical body from heaven (heavenly physical body) like Jesus resurrected body...Not this earthly physical body we have now...

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It's a perfect body, but it's still flesh.

Jamdoc said:

It's a perfect body, but it's still flesh.

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Yes, but i don't think is the same flesh as we have in this earthly body...as our flesh in this earthly body is kept alive by blood, but the flesh of our heavenly body is kept alive by the Spirit.

Aldebaran said:

When did the "accent" ever come up? It certainly wasn't mentioned in my post. I have no idea what your accent is and don't know where you're from anyway, so it's irrelevant. However, what I did make reference to is the way you are using scripture. That's what I don't agree with. To be specific, you are using scripture in ways that are totally out of context with what is being discussed, and then you hide behind it when someone calls you out about it.

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I thought it was strange that you stated I was using the scripture in error, when it was a quote given with no interpretation. So I tried to think of a reason why it would be wrong when read in a post of mine, but right when read from the bible.

Aldebaran said:

And with no context. That's where you're in error.

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I get it.....so any single verse in the bible is wrong....but when groups together, it becomes right.

Aldebaran said:

Then should we also follow according to His Word here?

Matthew 27:5 And he threw the pieces of silver into the temple sanctuary and departed; and he went away and hanged himself.

Luke 10:37 ......."You go and do likewise."

John 13:27 .......So Jesus told him, "What you are about to do, do quickly."

These are in the Word of God, with the last two being the words of Jesus Himself. No additions, subtractions or explanations, and no wisdom or understanding applied either.

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We absolutely have to follow these sayings.......Would you like to know how to follow them....or should be let out carnal minds tell us what makes sense and what does not? Can we be led by the spirit, or should we walk after the flesh?

Aldebaran said:

What makes you think that being saved, and then have to physically die to receive our new body to live forever is the easiest path?

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I did not say which way I thought was easiest. I only spoke about what is easiest for our minds to grasp and believe.

Aldebaran said:

Don't you think we would rather have an eternal body right off the bat and never have to have pain or death again?

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I not sure what you would rather.....nor do I believe that what be rather, matters. All that matters it what is truth, and what we believe.

Aldebaran said:

But the fact is, we still physically die.

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Yes we do....this is normal and will happen to most and what most believe. Yet....

He that liveth and believeth in Him, shall never die....Believest thou this?

Aldebaran said:

Ask Peter, or Paul, or Moses, or any of the many Christians throughout history who have been martyred, or even killed in car accidents if they are still alive on earth today.

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Do you believe that I can talk to Peter Paul and Moses, and ask them these things? If so, I will go and let you know what they would like you to know about it. If you do not believe, Try only asking things that you believe possible, so to waste less of our time.

pasifika said:

Yes, the word of the Lord is truth and life...but I am still in bondage to sin by the desire of my flesh...in saying that, I have hope the hope of being free from this bondage and a life which is everlasting.

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I encourage you to continue to seek life until you find it.....look forward to life and not death.

" But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:"

" And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage."

"Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage."

pasifika said:

"Believe" is a deep word...it's comes from knowing someone, It does not happen when you first met or hear about someone but a result of daily meditate, learn and practice....I would say believe is the deeper knowledge of Christ..

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Believe, and by all means, Know in whom you believe.

pasifika said:

So, my answer to the question by Jesus in John 11:26...do you believe? Yes Lord I believe, please help my unbelief...

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You, my friend, might just be closer to life and further from death...than you know....

Thanks for the conversation.

Jamdoc said:

His words speak quite literally of resurrection, and a new creation.

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So is your answer, "Yay Lord, but only if you are speaking of a future resurrection?" Or "Yay Lord, whatever the meaning....for where ever you lead me....I will follow?"

RaymondG said:

So is your answer, "Yay Lord, but only if you are speaking of a future resurrection?" Or "Yay Lord, whatever the meaning....for where ever you lead me....I will follow?"

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The second but He's already demonstrated what He means through Jesus Christ.

RaymondG said:

We absolutely have to follow these sayings.......

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We don't have to follow the saying, "and Judas went and hanged himself".

Jamdoc said:

The second but He's already demonstrated what He means through Jesus Christ.

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You still have buts and conditions.....too much treasure to imagine giving away.....so we must walk away sorrowful.

But fret not, because, for God, nothing is impossible.

Strong in Him said:

We don't have to follow the saying, "and Judas went and hanged himself".

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I find no fault in you going with what your mind tells you that you should and should not follow.

I will digest the whole book, if you dont mind.