Whom the heavens must receive until the restitution of all things?

Does the restitution of all things include Ezekiel chapters forty to forty eight?

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I wonder what is meant by the "restitution of all things?"

Acts 3
verse 21 "Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began."

Could this restitution of all things include the Jerusalem Third Temple or at least part of the Ezekiel 40
to Ezekiel 48
temple complex?
 

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More likely this is a reference to the future period when God will restore the earth to its original condition which existed before the fall of Adam and Eve. "all things restored to their pristine glory" (perhaps in heaven and in spirit as well, and not just the earth? )
 
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“Now of course I know, my brothers, that you had no idea what you were doing any more than your leaders had. But God had foretold through all his prophets that his Christ must suffer and this was how his words came true. Now you must repent and turn to God so that your sins may be wiped out, that time after time your souls may know the refreshment that comes from the presence of God. Then he will send you Jesus, your long-heralded Christ, although for the time he must remain in Heaven until that universal restoration of which God spoke in ancient times through all his holy prophets. For Moses said, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brethren.

Him you shall hear in all things, whatever he says to you.

And it shall come to pass that every soul who will not hear that prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.’
 
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I wonder what is meant by the "restitution of all things?"

Acts 3
verse 21 "Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began."

Could this restitution of all things include the Jerusalem Third Temple or at least part of the Ezekiel 40
to Ezekiel 48
temple complex?

Hi DennisTate,

A great topic. `restitution of ALL THINGS..` Now we know that the Lord made ALL THINGS...

`For by Him ALL THINGS were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. ALL THINGS were created through Him and for Him.` (Col. 1: 16)

There we see that the ALL THINGS focuses on RULERSHIP. All rulerships must come under the Lordship of Christ.

...He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power, for He must reign till he has put all enemies under His feet.` (1 Cor. 15: 24 & 25)

Now the very first rulership that the prophets spoke about needing restitution is in the third heaven. There, in the angelic realm we see that Lucifer was given a throne, but He became prideful and was cast from there. The Prophet Isaiah speaks of this. Lucifer said -

`I will exalt my throne above the stars of God.` (Isa. 14: 13)

When the Lord ascended He went to the father`s right hand. This is in the Godhead, far above all realms. The Godhead is not visible but Spirit. However God the Father desires that His Son will rule & reign not only from the Godhead, but also in the visible realm, the third heaven. Thus this position of rulership, in the angelic realm will be the first position of rulership in God`s great kingdom to be restored.

The throne `set up` by God the father in Rev. 4 is the enthronement of the Lord Jesus Christ in the visible realm. He is the pre-eminent one over all of God`s kingdom and sets out to bring all rule and authority and power under His feet.

Rulership in the highest visible realm is the first position that is restored.

Marilyn.

 
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Hi DennisTate,

A great topic. `restitution of ALL THINGS..` Now we know that the Lord made ALL THINGS...

`For by Him ALL THINGS were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. ALL THINGS were created through Him and for Him.` (Col. 1: 16)

There we see that the ALL THINGS focuses on RULERSHIP. All rulerships must come under the Lordship of Christ.

...He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power, for He must reign till he has put all enemies under His feet.` (1 Cor. 15: 24 & 25)

Now the very first rulership that the prophets spoke about needing restitution is in the third heaven. There, in the angelic realm we see that Lucifer was given a throne, but He became prideful and was cast from there. The Prophet Isaiah speaks of this. Lucifer said -

`I will exalt my throne above the stars of God.` (Isa. 14: 13)

When the Lord ascended He went to the father`s right hand. This is in the Godhead, far above all realms. The Godhead is not visible but Spirit. However God the Father desires that His Son will rule & reign not only from the Godhead, but also in the visible realm, the third heaven. Thus this position of rulership, in the angelic realm will be the first position of rulership in God`s great kingdom to be restored.

The throne `set up` by God the father in Rev. 4 is the enthronement of the Lord Jesus Christ in the visible realm. He is the pre-eminent one over all of God`s kingdom and sets out to bring all rule and authority and power under His feet.

Rulership in the highest visible realm is the first position that is restored.

Marilyn.

Yes.... and the result here on the earth will be the fulfillment of all that is written in the law and the prophets.

A near death experiencer who was an Atheist at the time of his brush with death was shown a utopian world by the year 2185... two centuries from his 1985 nde.

Isaiah 11
7. And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.




Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience

The image of the future that they gave me then, and it was their image, not one that I created, surprised me. My image had previously been sort of like Star Wars, where everything was space age, plastics, and technology.



The future that they showed me was almost no technology at all. What everybody, absolutely everybody, in this euphoric future spent most of their time doing was raising children. The chief concern of people was children, and everybody considered children to be the most precious commodity in the world.



And when a person became an adult, there was no sense of anxiety, nor hatred, nor competition.



There was this enormous sense of trust and mutual respect. If a person, in this view of the future, became disturbed, then the community of people all cared about the disturbed person falling away from the harmony of the group. Spiritually, through prayer and love, the others would elevate the afflicted person.



What people did with the rest of their time was that they gardened, with almost no physical effort. They showed me that plants, with prayer, would produce huge fruits and vegetables.



People, in unison, could control the climate of the planet through prayer. Everybody would work with mutual trust and the people would call the rain, when needed, and the sun to shine.



Animals lived with people, in harmony.



People, in this best of all worlds, weren't interested in knowledge; they were interested in wisdom. This was because they were in a position where anything they needed to know, in the knowledge category, they could receive simply through prayer. Everything, to them, was solvable. They could do anything they wanted to do.



In this future, people had no wanderlust, because they could, spiritually, communicate with everyone else in the world. There was no need to go elsewhere. They were so engrossed with where they were and the people around them that they didn't have to go on vacation. Vacation from what? They were completely fulfilled and happy.
Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience
 
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More likely this is a reference to the future period when God will restore the earth to its original condition which existed before the fall of Adam and Eve. "all things restored to their pristine glory" (perhaps in heaven and in spirit as well, and not just the earth? )

Yes... that time is coming!

Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience

Howard Storm's light being friends told him more about the new world to come. According to them, God wished to usher in the kingdom within the next two hundred years. In order to do so, God had rescinded some of the free will given to creatures, in favor of more divine control over human events. This new world order, according to Howard, will resemble some near-death descriptions of heaven. People will live in such peace and harmony and love that communication will be telepathic, travel instantaneous and the need for clothing and shelter eliminated. The lion will indeed lie down with the lamb.
 
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Yes.... and the result here on the earth will be the fulfillment of all that is written in the law and the prophets.

How wonderful that will be for those on the earth, and for those in the universal realm and the Body of Christ in the third heaven. All under Christ`s rulership in every realm that He made.

regards, Marilyn.
 
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How wonderful that will be for those on the earth,

2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.


2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

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2Pe 3:5
2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

`And the nations of those who are saved shall walk in its light, and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honour into it.` (Rev. 21: 24)
 
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I wonder what is meant by the "restitution of all things?"

Acts 3
verse 21 "Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began."

Could this restitution of all things include the Jerusalem Third Temple or at least part of the Ezekiel 40
to Ezekiel 48
temple complex?
The original Greek word used there is: ἀποκαταστάσεως
(apokatastaseōs)

Strong's Greek: 605. ἀποκατάστασις (apokatastasis) -- restoration

So a better translation would be: "restoration of all things".

I don't believe that God would go backwards (to restore a Temple made from human hands) when He's already fulfilled His dwelling place in the hearts of His People (the True Israel of God).


Acts 7:48 ~ However, the Most High does not dwell in houses made by human hands.

2 Corinthians 5:1 ~ Now we know that if the earthly tent we live in is dismantled, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands.

1 Corinthians 3:16 ~ Do you not know that you yourselves are God's temple, and the Spirit of God dwells in you?

 
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The original Greek word used there is: ἀποκαταστάσεως
(apokatastaseōs)

Strong's Greek: 605. ἀποκατάστασις (apokatastasis) -- restoration

So a better translation would be: "restoration of all things".

I don't believe that God would go backwards (to restore a Temple made from human hands) when He's already fulfilled His dwelling place in the hearts of His People (the True Israel of God).


Acts 7:48 ~ However, the Most High does not dwell in houses made by human hands.

2 Corinthians 5:1 ~ Now we know that if the earthly tent we live in is dismantled, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands.

1 Corinthians 3:16 ~ Do you not know that you yourselves are God's temple, and the Spirit of God dwells in you?


The metaphorical meaning is extremely important....... the most important I think......... but a powerful case can be presented that the metaphorical meaning does not negate a literal fulfillment also taking place?

"The Sacrificial System Will Continue

One of the most perplexing ideas to students of Scripture is the idea that God intends that the annual feasts, along with animal sacrifice, will continue into the Millennium. Many Christians who have studied the prophetic portions of Zechariah 14, Isaiah 66, and Ezekiel 40 - 48, which clearly describe these Millennial worship ordinations, are confused by the idea. They ask, "Didn't the sacrifice of Christ eliminate animal sacrifices forever?"

............"Only the complete sacrifice of Jesus could ever totally atone for our sins. However, God clearly demanded the sacrifices from Adam to Christ. Those sacrifices were acts of obedience to the direct command of God, as well as acknowledgements of one's own personal sinfulness and need for God's forgiveness. Animal sacrifices covered the sins of the people temporarily until the prophesied Messiah would come and offer Himself once and for all as the necessary atonement for sin. If animal sacrifice can never atone for sin, why would God allow Israel to resume such sacrifice in the Third Temple, prior to Armageddon, and then demand that Israel continue such sacrifice in the Millennium? There are two reasons why I believe this is true."

First, the early Jewish - Christian Church continued to offer sacrifices in the first century.".......



.......Second, New Testament writers used the legal sacrificial system to illustrate very important points concerning Christ's sacrifice on the Cross.......

..... These examples of the way early Jewish believers used God's law to teach great love when He sacrificed His only Son on the cross will be repeated during the Millennium." (Grant R. Jeffrey, Messiah, War in the Middle East and the Road to Armageddon, page 317, 318 and 319)
 
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The metaphorical meaning is extremely important....... the most important I think......... but a powerful case can be presented that the metaphorical meaning does not negate a literal fulfillment also taking place?

"First, the early Jewish - Christian Church continued to offer sacrifices in the first century."......."

Whatever sacrifices continued after Calvary, Hebrews 10 leaves no doubt that they no longer possessed any spiritual efficacy or significance.

The destruction of the temple in 70 AD was the culminating demonstration and reinforcement of that reality.

There will be no third temple or sacrifices.

Sozomen (ca. A.D.375-447)
"Ecclesiastical History"
Book V, Chapter XXII


Though the emperor [Julian the Apostate] hated and opressed the Christians, he manifested benevolence and humanity towards the Jews. He wrote to the Jewish patriarchs and leaders, as well as to the people, requesting them to pray for him, and for the prosperity of the empire. In taking this step he was not actuated, I am convinced, by any respect for their religion; for he was aware that it is, so to speak, the mother of the Christian religion, and he knew that both religions rest upon the authority of the patriarchs and the prophets; but he thought to grieve the Christians by favoring the Jews, who are their most inveterate enemies. But perhaps he also calculated upon persuading the Jews to embrace paganism and sacrifices; for they were only acquainted with the mere letter of Scripture, and could not, like the Christians and a few of the wisest among the Hebrews, discern the hidden meaning.

Events proved that this was his real motive; for he sent for some of the chiefs of the race and exhorted them to return to the observance of the laws of Moses and the customs of their fathers. On their replying that because the temple in Jerusalem was overturned, it was neither lawful nor ancestral to do this in another place than the metropolis out of which they had been cast, he gave them public money, commanded them to rebuild the temple, and to practice the cult similar to that of their ancestors, by sacrificing after the ancient way. The Jews entered upon the undertaking, without reflecting that, according to the prediction of the holy prophets, it could not be accomplished. They sought for the most skillful artisans, collected materials, cleared the ground, and entered so earnestly upon the task, that even the women carried heaps of earth, and brought their necklaces and other female ornaments towards defraying the expense. The emperor, the other pagans, and all the Jews, regarded every other undertaking as secondary in importance to this. Although the pagans were not well-disposed towards the Jews, yet they assisted them in this enterprise, because they reckoned upon its ultimate success, and hoped by this means to falsify the prophecies of Christ. Besides this motive, the Jews themselves were impelled by the consideration that the time had arrived for rebuilding their temple. When they had removed the ruins of the former building, they dug up the ground and cleared away its foundation; it is said that on the following day when they were about to lay the first foundation, a great earthquake occurred, and by the violent agitation of the earth, stones were thrown up from the depths, by which those of the Jews who were engaged in the work were wounded, as likewise those who were merely looking on. The houses and public porticos, near the site of the temple, in which they had diverted themselves, were suddenly thrown down; many were caught thereby, some perished immediately, others were found half dead and mutilated of hands or legs, others were injured in other parts of the body. When God caused the earthquake to cease, the workmen who survived again returned to their task, partly because such was the edict of the emperor, and partly because they were themselves interested in the undertaking. Men often, in endeavoring to gratify their own passions, seek what is injurious to them, reject what would be truly advantageous, and are deluded-by the idea that nothing is really useful except what is agreeable to them. When once led astray by this error, they are no longer able to act in a manner conducive to their own interests, or to take warning by the calamities which are visited upon them.

The Jews, I believe, were just in this state; for, instead of regarding this unexpected earthquake as a manifest indication that God was opposed to the re-erection of their temple, they proceeded to recommence the work. But all parties relate, that they had scarcely returned to the undertaking, when fire burst suddenly from the foundations of the temple, and consumed several of the workmen.

This fact is fearlessly stated, and believed by all; the only discrepancy in the narrative is that some maintain that flame burst from the interior of the temple, as the workmen were striving to force an entrance, while others say that the fire proceeded directly from the earth. In whichever way the phenomenon might have occurred, it is equally wonderful. A more tangible and still more extraordinary prodigy ensued; suddenly the sign of the cross appeared spontaneously on the garments of the persons engaged in the undertaking. These crosses were disposed like stars, and appeared the work of art. Many were hence led to confess that Christ is God, and that the rebuilding of the temple was not pleasing to Him; others presented themselves in the church, were initiated, and besought Christ, with hymns and supplications, to pardon their transgression. If any one does not feel disposed to believe my narrative, let him go and be convinced by those who heard the facts I have related from the eyewitnesses of them, for they are still alive. Let him inquire, also, of the Jews and pagans who left the work in an incomplete state, or who, to speak more accurately, were able to commence it.
 
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I wonder what is meant by the "restitution of all things?"

Acts 3
verse 21 "Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began."

Could this restitution of all things include the Jerusalem Third Temple or at least part of the Ezekiel 40
to Ezekiel 48
temple complex?
YOu could go to the book of Revelation and see all that transpires from chapter 4 on to chapter 19 when Jesus returns. That should answer your question. In other words, instead of forming a theory from ONE VERSE, why not form your theory from many chapters that cover the same thing?
 
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The metaphorical meaning is extremely important....... the most important I think......... but a powerful case can be presented that the metaphorical meaning does not negate a literal fulfillment also taking place?
You're right - there was a literal fulfillment taking place (“The new is in the old concealed; the old is in the new revealed.” ~ St Augustine). The Temple system (and everything used in the system) were the symbols pointing to Christ. He has fulfilled what was being revealed in these shadows (so - why would God go backwards to the symbols/shadows again?)

For instance:

The feasts all pointed to Christ.

Like -
Passover

'In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at twilight is the LORD'S Passover. (Leviticus 23:5 NASB)

Passover is a type, or a picture of something greater. Passover symbolized God's redemption of His faithful followers. Christ was the Passover Lamb.


John 1:28-29 ~ These things took place in Bethany beyond the Jordan, where John was baptizing. 29 The next day he saw Jesus coming to him, and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!


So - as far as what "until the restoration of all things" is about? I believe it's mostly about the fulfillment of this prophecy of Daniel's (the restoration of the Kingdom to the True People of God/True Israel):

Daniel 2:44 - And in the days of those kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall the sovereignty thereof be left to another people; but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.”

Acts 1:6 ~ So when they came together, they asked Him, “Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?

Ancient Promises by R.C. Sproul says:
“The new is in the old concealed; the old is in the new revealed.” This famous statement by Saint Augustine expresses the remarkable way in which the two testaments of the Bible are so closely interrelated with each other. The key to understanding the New Testament in its fullest is to see in it the fulfillment of those things that were revealed in the background of the Old Testament. The Old Testament points forward in time, preparing God’s people for the work of Christ in the New Testament.

The history of redemption began with creation itself. The book of Genesis, the first book of the Pentateuch, starts with the beginning, or the “genesis,” of the universe as expressed in the revelation of God’s mighty work of creation. The creation of the universe culminated in the narrative of the creation of humanity. This was followed very shortly by humanity’s cataclysmic plunge into ruin as a result of the sin of Adam and Eve.
From the third chapter of Genesis through the end of the Bible, the rest of the narrative history is the history of God’s work of redeeming a fallen humanity. Genesis shows that the same God who is the God of creation is also the God of our redemption.

The book of Genesis gives us an overview of the patriarchal period and the covenants that God made with them. They form the foundation for everything that follows in redemptive history. Beginning with Noah and moving toward Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the sons of Jacob,
the story unfolds God’s consistent pattern of redemption, which looks ahead for centuries, as God’s people awaited the ultimate fulfillment of the patriarchal promises. These promises were fulfilled in the person and work of Jesus."
 
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I posted the following in another discussion but I knew immediately that it also was relevant to this discussion.

his days shall be 120 years


On one level this tells us that an average lifespan ....... or something like even a minimum lifespan of a hundred and twenty years will be one of the signs of the
"restorations of all things" that is predicted.

We have been in an era of threescore and ten years as something of a minimum lifespan for a truly righteous and wise person who is truly blessed.......
but the time is coming when the entire world will shift up to
the average person living significantly more than one hundred years without becoming
an invalid.

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20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days; for the child shall die a hundred years old, and the sinner being a hundred years old shall be accursed.

21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.

22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree shall be the days of my people, and my chosen shall long enjoy the work of their hands.

23 They shall not labor in vain, nor bring forth for calamity; for they are the seed of the blessed of Jehovah, and their offspring with them.

24 And it shall come to pass that, before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.

25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the ox; and dust shall be the serpent's food. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith Jehovah.
 
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You're right - there was a literal fulfillment taking place (“The new is in the old concealed; the old is in the new revealed.” ~ St Augustine). The Temple system (and everything used in the system) were the symbols pointing to Christ. He has fulfilled what was being revealed in these shadows (so - why would God go backwards to the symbols/shadows again?)

For instance:

The feasts all pointed to Christ.

Like -
Passover

'In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at twilight is the LORD'S Passover. (Leviticus 23:5 NASB)

Passover is a type, or a picture of something greater. Passover symbolized God's redemption of His faithful followers. Christ was the Passover Lamb.


John 1:28-29 ~ These things took place in Bethany beyond the Jordan, where John was baptizing. 29 The next day he saw Jesus coming to him, and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!


So - as far as what "until the restoration of all things" is about? I believe it's mostly about the fulfillment of this prophecy of Daniel's (the restoration of the Kingdom to the True People of God/True Israel):

Daniel 2:44 - And in the days of those kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall the sovereignty thereof be left to another people; but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.”

Acts 1:6 ~ So when they came together, they asked Him, “Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?
Ancient Promises by R.C. Sproul says:
“The new is in the old concealed; the old is in the new revealed.” This famous statement by Saint Augustine expresses the remarkable way in which the two testaments of the Bible are so closely interrelated with each other. The key to understanding the New Testament in its fullest is to see in it the fulfillment of those things that were revealed in the background of the Old Testament. The Old Testament points forward in time, preparing God’s people for the work of Christ in the New Testament.

The history of redemption began with creation itself. The book of Genesis, the first book of the Pentateuch, starts with the beginning, or the “genesis,” of the universe as expressed in the revelation of God’s mighty work of creation. The creation of the universe culminated in the narrative of the creation of humanity. This was followed very shortly by humanity’s cataclysmic plunge into ruin as a result of the sin of Adam and Eve.
From the third chapter of Genesis through the end of the Bible, the rest of the narrative history is the history of God’s work of redeeming a fallen humanity. Genesis shows that the same God who is the God of creation is also the God of our redemption.

The book of Genesis gives us an overview of the patriarchal period and the covenants that God made with them. They form the foundation for everything that follows in redemptive history. Beginning with Noah and moving toward Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the sons of Jacob,
the story unfolds God’s consistent pattern of redemption, which looks ahead for centuries, as God’s people awaited the ultimate fulfillment of the patriarchal promises. These promises were fulfilled in the person and work of Jesus."


Basically.... Messiah Yeshua - Jesus has made covenants.......
multiple covenants that remain in force in effect and
in his mind..... do not contradict or negate each other.

We humans find ourselves almost incapable of understanding how
Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in his glorified resurrected form can handle all that
..... but to me it is obvious that He can!

There is an Adamic covenant....
there is a Mosaic covenant
there is a Noahaic covenant (pardon my spelling please)
there is a covenant with each of the twelve patriarch partly explained in Genesis 48
and Genesis 49 if I remember correctly.......

There are covenants with Abraham....
Isaac/ Yitzhak and Jacob/ Yakob.....

The covenants with David and with Levi were specified as being eternal.....

but I believe that once the Word / Logos makes a covenant.....
even one that is not necessarily recorded in scriptures.....
that covenant / agreement remains in force and effect even if you or I know nothing about..... due to it being above our Security Clearance Level and pay scale.......!


Luke 24:25 "Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:"

Jeremiah 33
16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely; and this is [the name] whereby she shall be called: Jehovah our righteousness.

17 For thus saith Jehovah: David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel; 18 neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt-offerings, and to burn meal-offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.

19 And the word of Jehovah came unto Jeremiah, saying, 20 Thus saith Jehovah: If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, so that there shall not be day and night in their season; 21 then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he shall not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.

22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured; so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.

23 And the word of Jehovah came to Jeremiah, saying, 24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which Jehovah did choose, he hath cast them off? thus do they despise my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.

25 Thus saith Jehovah: If my covenant of day and night [stand] not, if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth; 26 then will I also cast away the seed of Jacob, and of David my servant, so that I will not take of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and will have mercy on them.
 
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The covenants with David and with Levi were specified as being eternal.....

but I believe that once the Word / Logos makes a covenant.....
even one that is not necessarily recorded in scriptures.....
that covenant / agreement remains in force and effect even if you or I know nothing about..... due to it being above our Security Clearance Level and pay scale.......!
I don't disagree with that, but I do believe most of the Bible story (the main plot) is about Christ restoring what was destroyed in the Garden (focusing on one particular promise/covenant). I believe it can be summed up as what God had promised the Serpent in the Garden and Abraham.

Genesis 3:15 ~ And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."

Genesis 12:1-3 ~ Now Yahweh said to Abram, “Go from your country and your kindred and your father’s house to the land that I will show you. And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great so that you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

Quoting from Ligonier Ministries: Man’s sin has resulted in God’s curse (Gen. 3:14, 17; 4:11; 5:29; 9:25), but here God promises to form a people for himself and to restore his original purposes of blessing for mankind (cf. Gen. 1:28).v Abram is somehow going to be the mediator of this restored blessing.

As we proceed, the eschatological significance of God’s promises to Abram and his determination to bless all the families of the earth will become clearer. As we will see, this blessing will come through the establishment of God’s kingdom. From this point forward in Genesis, “the writer’s primary concern is to trace the development of God’s resolution to bless.”xii ~ https://www.ligonier.org/blog/promise-abraham-unfolding-biblical-eschatology/
 
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I don't disagree with that, but I do believe most of the Bible story (the main plot) is about Christ restoring what was destroyed in the Garden (focusing on one particular promise/covenant). I believe it can be summed up as what God had promised the Serpent in the Garden and Abraham.

Genesis 3:15 ~ And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."

Genesis 12:1-3 ~ Now Yahweh said to Abram, “Go from your country and your kindred and your father’s house to the land that I will show you. And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great so that you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

Quoting from Ligonier Ministries: Man’s sin has resulted in God’s curse (Gen. 3:14, 17; 4:11; 5:29; 9:25), but here God promises to form a people for himself and to restore his original purposes of blessing for mankind (cf. Gen. 1:28).v Abram is somehow going to be the mediator of this restored blessing.

As we proceed, the eschatological significance of God’s promises to Abram and his determination to bless all the families of the earth will become clearer. As we will see, this blessing will come through the establishment of God’s kingdom. From this point forward in Genesis, “the writer’s primary concern is to trace the development of God’s resolution to bless.”xii ~ https://www.ligonier.org/blog/promise-abraham-unfolding-biblical-eschatology/


Well said.....
one author who does what I think is a great job of speculating on what is meant by restoring all that Adam and Eve lost in Eden is Rick Joyner.......

I quote him several times here in this discussion:


A message from Adam to all of humanity?! Does this sound legitimate to you???
 
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I don't disagree with that, but I do believe most of the Bible story (the main plot) is about Christ restoring what was destroyed in the Garden (focusing on one particular promise/covenant). /

Hi mkgal1

Yes the restoration of the earth to its former glory is part of God`s plan, however there is much more to be restored. Let`s look at Job...

`And the heavens are not pure in His sight.` (Job 15: 15)

Also we know that Lucifer was a kingpriest and had a throne, which he desired to be above God`s throne. Lucifer was cast from the angelic realm. There has been no angel or any being appointed a throne in that realm. And as the Lord made all these rulership positions, (Col. 1: 16) then we know that there will be the Worthy one who will be the sovereign ruler over all from that realm.

Much to be restored in heaven and on earth.
 
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