Burisma lobbied Obama Admin to drop probe

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Actual recycling is wonderful; the recycling of a debunked hodgepodge of conflating mistruths isn't as awesome. I'm not faulting the OP; this is on Fox News for their dishonest whataboutism distraction that doesn't mitigate Trump's misconduct anyways.

One of my professors is the former U.S. Ambassador to Russia, and has discussed this publicly.
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Member of Ukrainian Parliament Sasha Ustinova Weighs In On What Really Happened with Ukraine’s Former Prosecutors General

Take Viktor Shokin for example, who served as the prosecutor general of Ukraine from 2015 to 2016, explained Ustinova. He is being described by some Americans as an honest man who was forced out of office in part by former Vice President Joe Biden, who supposedly asked the Ukrainian government to fire Shokin because he had been investigating Burisma Holdings, a Ukranian company on which his son, Hunter Biden, sat on the board.

That story couldn’t be farther from the truth, Ustinov said.

“Shokin was not trying to investigate corruption — he was trying to help a former corrupt state official, Mykola Zlochevsky, escape criminal prosecution,” she explained. “I was actually one of the people who organized demonstrations in front of the general prosecution office because everybody was so sick of Shokin, and so disappointed in him for helping former [corrupt] officials to get back into the country.”

Shokin’s successor, Yuriy Lutsenko, who was Ukraine’s prosecutor general from 2016 through August 2019, also did not have the Ukrainian people’s best interests at heart, she said. Under Lutsenko, four of the five outstanding criminal cases against Zlochevsky were shut down. Zlochevsky – a Ukrainian oligarch who founded Burisma Holdings — was required to pay a $4 million fine and was ultimately allowed back in Ukraine.

“Ukrainians know that Shokin and Lutsenko are the bad guys in our country,” she said.. “So of course it was disappointing to hear [people speaking about them in a positive way], but I hope that getting the facts and the truth out there will help a lot of people – not only in Ukraine, but also in the U.S. — to understand who is good and who is bad.”
 
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Actual recycling is wonderful; the recycling of a debunked hodgepodge of conflating mistruths isn't as awesome. I'm not faulting the OP; this is on Fox News for their dishonest whataboutism distraction that doesn't mitigate Trump's misconduct anyways.

One of my professors is the former U.S. Ambassador to Russia, and has discussed this publicly.
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Member of Ukrainian Parliament Sasha Ustinova Weighs In On What Really Happened with Ukraine’s Former Prosecutors General
Thank-you for bringing light into this discussion.

Please continue.

It's yet to be seen as to whether it will make a difference ... but it might ...
 
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Thank-you for bringing light into this discussion.

Please continue.

It's yet to be seen as to whether it will make a difference ... but it might ...
It won't. Facts don't matter much on the mountaintop.
 
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Uh, Donald Jr's daddy is president, not vice-president.

We thought that you
might be confused on this thread?
Guess that proves it.
Maybe too hard to follow?
Or once again not paying attention?
M
 
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We thought that you
might be confused on this thread?
Guess that proves it.
Maybe too hard to follow?
Or once again not paying attention?
M
Oh, we're paying attention. That whole "Joe Biden got Shokin fired for investigating Hunter Biden" narrative is a comforting bedtime story for the goats, but it won't stand the light of day when Articles of Impeachment get to the Senate..
 
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not paying attention?
I'm paying enough attention to see the hypocrisy of supporting Donald while at the same time pretending there's something wrong with nepotism. Get back to us when Biden Jr gets 400 million dollars from daddy to bankrupt a bunch of casinos. Until then, it complaining about the Biden family just reads as weak.
 
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Let's see here.
Would jr have gotten hired
if his father was not vice president?
Of course not.
Investigation is ongoing.
M
Investigate away. Meanwhile on the impeachment.....
 
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Here's my wish
that all of us could make 80 grand a month
for doing next to nothing.
Then we could pay 90% in taxes
and give everything to everyone for free.
What a world we could live in?
I think all would be happy then?
Who's happier Conservatives or Liberals? POLL

Hunter Biden got $83G per month for Ukraine 'ceremonial' gig: report
Hunter Biden was reportedly paid $83,333 per month after being hired in 2014 by Burisma Holdings, one of Ukraine’s largest natural gas companies, while serving as a non-executive “ceremonial figure” with a “powerful name,” a report said Friday.
 
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Here's my wish
that all of us could make 80 grand a month
for doing next to nothing.
Then we could pay 90% in taxes
and give everything to everyone for free.
What a world we could live in?
I think all would be happy then?
Who's happier Conservatives or Liberals? POLL

Hunter Biden got $83G per month for Ukraine 'ceremonial' gig: report
Hunter Biden was reportedly paid $83,333 per month after being hired in 2014 by Burisma Holdings, one of Ukraine’s largest natural gas companies, while serving as a non-executive “ceremonial figure” with a “powerful name,” a report said Friday.
So this thread is about jealousy?
 
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So this thread is about jealousy?

I don't know about you, but it's difficult for me to take any Trump supporter seriously at all when they indignantly complain about a Democratic politician being guilty of possible political corruption.
 
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--- Corruption ---
Please stay on topic
or start new thread
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I think we've dealt with the corruption part of it already. No, Joe Biden didn't get Shoking fired to protect Hunter Biden from investigation.
 
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Let's see here.
Would jr have gotten hired
if his father was not vice president?
Of course not.
Investigation is ongoing.
M
So what?
Do you think that Ivanka would have gotten 16 new trademarks in 2018, 3 in 2017, and another 5 in 2019 from China if her daddy wasn't a president who is in the middle of a tariff war with China? One is for voting machines by the way.
Ivanka Trump gets initial approval from China for 16 new trademarks—including for 'voting machines'
 
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Companies do this all the time. Hire a big name ... to boost their brand. Nothing illegal about it.
Exactly. Sleazy, yes, but not rare. And honestly, kind of unavoidable. If you’re the offspring of a powerful man, that’s always going to be a factor in your hiring to some extent. No employer is just going to ignore that fact, especially when it could bring a benefit to their company.
 
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