Trump’s re-election support hits a high despite impeachment inquiry, poll shows

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Respectfully, I cannot imagine a single person who is not already in the Trump camp switching over. I do realize that some people only watch media sources which, when confronted with daily scandals, scour the airwaves so they can feature on a justice of the peace in Podunk, USA who accepted a bribe. I sometimes watch Fox News just to see, when the biggest stories break, how many times they can dust off Hillary's emails and pretend (ho-hum) that they were EVER significant.

Forgive me for sounding obtuse, many on the left are willfully ignorant of situations and events ongoing in this current political environment. The dont want to hear it. Literally ignore and mock what is being presented. Thusly haven been left clueless by their own choosing, having sought solace over the offensive grit of reality in politics.

Do you know how many people on the left do not even know what crossfire hurricane is? The left is banning any speech they do not approve of, making a mockery out of fact; meanwhile the right discusses everything in open internet forums. Even if it is offensive and stubbs Trump supporters toes. My suggestion would be to look into issues yourself. Stop relying on what you have been taught. Instead go out and learn.

But don't you think that the anti-Trump camp is galvanized, too?

No. Again, ignorance is not resolve. Many on the left have been protected from the harsh reality of what is actualy going on in today's politics. They deny access to certain topics outright or even disused people from looking into them. Even more, they control the media and decide what news people will and will not see. Once the facade falls, there will be no way of saving face to these people anymore. People hate Trump because they were told to. Then they were lied to and only shown coverage that supports that narrative. Once that is gone they will turn on their handlers.


They didn't come out in force in 2016, partly because they weren't inspired by Hillary, and partially because they thought that their friends and neighbors would see through Trump's lies, narcissism, greed, ignorance, sloth, and cheating and vote for Hillary--or stay home.

Interestingly enough his base was enough on their own the last time. I think it is naive to not understand how many dems are put off by socialism, late term abortion, and the general lack of leadership in their party. Not all, but some. That some gets added to camp Trump even if they do not vote. Again, Trump won in 2016 on a base that is unmovable at this point in time. Any devance in votes towards democrats will aid Trump's base.

I remember sitting at the organ in church before the 2016 election, and hearing two parishioners in the front row bemoaning that they would be "required" to vote for Trump because he was "pro-life." I felt like shaking them and saying, "No, you are not required. If your gut tells you that he is completely untrustworthy and unqualified, you have to either stay home, ask for a write-in ballot, or vote for Hillary or a minor party candidate." How could anyone trust that Trump stood for anything--but making money for his company while in office?

I do not care about Trump's money, his business, or even the assinie way he goes about doing things at times. I want liberals out. I want the swamp drained. I want our borders secure. And I want a strong capitalist economy. No democrat is going to do that for me.
 
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I do not care about Trump's money, his business, or even the assinie way he goes about doing things at times. I want liberals out.
Everything which is wrong with the American Right: a divorcee, adulterer, shady businessman who treats women like objects, bankruptcy enthusiast, confessed looter of charity for personal game who snuggles up to dictators and fills his administration with criminals and woefully under qualified yes men who has spent 25% of his tenure playing golf and needs ‘handlers’ is best because of the magic ‘R’.

‘Murica!
 
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Thank goodness for the law. Otherwise, we'd have lawlessness based on peoples' feelings.

We do and it's called judicial activism and some of those judges ended up on the USSC for doing just that. I think the term that was used by their supporters and the appointer to rationalize their placement was "wise" :doh:
 
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Then find a crime you actually have evidence of Trump committing and then show that evidence to a judge in court. That's how it works.
BTW, news articles and opinion pieces do not count as evidence.

That seems to be the main issue they don't have anything so that's the reason behind the investigations. They must think that sooner or later they will find something to use to get rid of him, they don't really have any specific idea what to look for but that doesn't seem to matter. They're looking at everything he's ever done and when that fails make something up (which is where we seem to be right now) ^_^

I'm curious as to how having foreign policy different than foreign policy preferred/used by his detractors is an impeachable offense :scratch: There is no definitive book/set of rules written that says it's mandatory to do it a certain way (it's Presidents discretion) so I'm wondering how they think they can justify that to impeach him :scratch: (You really have to wonder how those people ever managed to get into office) :swoon:
 
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That seems to be the main issue they don't have anything

Looks like the far right talking points haven't caught up with the recent release of transcripts from the recent closed-door hearings on Donald's Ukraine problem.
 
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Looks like the far right talking points haven't caught up with the recent release of transcripts from the recent closed-door hearings on Donald's Ukraine problem.

Indeed -- it's a three-part defense.

1. There was no quid pro quo.
2. There was a quid pro quo, but it wasn't illegal.
3. There was a quid pro quo and it was illegal, but it's all Giuliani's fault.

Most of the GOP is transitioning to step 2, with a couple trying out step 3... don't get Left Behind!
 
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Everything which is wrong with the American Right: a divorcee, adulterer, shady businessman who treats women like objects, bankruptcy enthusiast, confessed looter of charity for personal game who snuggles up to dictators and fills his administration with criminals and woefully under qualified yes men who has spent 25% of his tenure playing golf and needs ‘handlers’ is best because of the magic ‘R’.

‘Murica!

And again, a lot of those topics you bring up are manufactured narratives. Wanna talk about ukraine? What about Zbigniew Brzezinski? Even tho some are dead focused on Trump many realise this was started during the Carter admin. 1980's. You are so worried about a phone call... well what corruption is Trump actualy talking about?


Oboma used Nazi's to perform regime change in the ukraine under the guise of ANTIFA. McCain, and Biden were part of it.

Just remember, when you turn your head and refuse to look, that is why you are stuck on Trump. You are not being told the whole story. This entire fabrication about Trump is a coverup.


Since when has being "anti-Nazi" been an extremist position?

Since when has being "anti-Nazi" been an extremist position?

This administration is going after some very powerful international entities as part of the globalist cabal. There is blowback. That is what we are seeing.
 
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Looks like the far right talking points haven't caught up with the recent release of transcripts from the recent closed-door hearings on Donald's Ukraine problem.

Indeed -- it's a three-part defense.

1. There was no quid pro quo.
2. There was a quid pro quo, but it wasn't illegal.
3. There was a quid pro quo and it was illegal, but it's all Giuliani's fault.

Most of the GOP is transitioning to step 2, with a couple trying out step 3... don't get Left Behind!

Seems like someone else is kinda behind, the narrative has morphed into bribery and back into obstruction of justice (the very old fallback position when things look grim) Guess that's what happens when all the popular rhetoric is failing and you actually read what constitutes a high crime and misdemeanor, and bribery just happens to be on that list ^_^
 
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Seems like someone else is kinda behind, the narrative has morphed into bribery and back into obstruction of justice (the very old fallback position when things look grim)

Not bribery -- more like extortion... which is technically more accurate than "quid pro quo," but whatever.

As for obstruction -- well, that's Donald's specialty, isn't it?

Guess that's what happens when all the popular rhetoric is failing and you actually read what constitutes a high crime and misdemeanor, and bribery just happens to be on that list ^_^

According to the GOP, we don't need a high crime or a misdemeanor:

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Remember when those words mattered?
 
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And again, a lot of those topics you bring up are manufactured narratives. Wanna talk about ukraine? What about Zbigniew Brzezinski? Even tho some are dead focused on Trump many realise this was started during the Carter admin. 1980's. You are so worried about a phone call... well what corruption is Trump actualy talking about?


Oboma used Nazi's to perform regime change in the ukraine under the guise of ANTIFA. McCain, and Biden were part of it.

Just remember, when you turn your head and refuse to look, that is why you are stuck on Trump. You are not being told the whole story. This entire fabrication about Trump is a coverup.


Since when has being "anti-Nazi" been an extremist position?

Since when has being "anti-Nazi" been an extremist position?

This administration is going after some very powerful international entities as part of the globalist cabal. There is blowback. That is what we are seeing.
Which bit about my characterisation of Mr Trump is in error?
 
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Indeed -- it's a three-part defense.

1. There was no quid pro quo.
2. There was a quid pro quo, but it wasn't illegal.
3. There was a quid pro quo and it was illegal, but it's all Giuliani's fault.

Most of the GOP is transitioning to step 2, with a couple trying out step 3... don't get Left Behind!
I also remember attempts at character assassination against at least 1 decorated veteran. Have we moved on from that talking point already?
 
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I also remember attempts at character assassination against at least 1 decorated veteran. Have we moved on from that talking point already?

Given that today is Veterans Day, they might have taken a break from that one...

Fret not -- First thing Tuesday, it'll be business as usual... to the cheers of Donald's followers.
 
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I also remember attempts at character assassination against at least 1 decorated veteran. Have we moved on from that talking point already?

One? I can think of at least half a dozen of those incidents.
 
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They didn't. It was one man's politically inspired opinion.

Which means his words now don't matter either, seeing as how his principles change with the tide.

Democrats proved him wrong ... and Democrats, by taking the position he advocated then, are wrong now.

Sounds like you're saying his words were wrong then and they're wrong now... because the Democrats successfully defended Clinton.

That sound about right?
 
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Which means his words now don't matter either, seeing as how his principles change with the tide.
I can't argue with that.

I'm always leery of what Lindsey Graham says. What he actually does matters more.
Sounds like you're saying his words were wrong then and they're wrong now... because the Democrats successfully defended Clinton.
I rarely try to defend Lindsey Graham.
That sound about right?
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I can't argue with that.

I'm always leery of what Lindsey Graham says. What he actually does matters more.

Considering he's currently one of Donald's most vocal defenders, his words and deeds have had a common theme lately.

I rarely try to defend Lindsey Graham.

:)

Let's not discuss the man, then... but the idea: "You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role. Impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office."

Now, regardless of who said it or when, does the idea have any merit?
 
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