Why does it say that Jesus “learned obedience”?

Why does it say that Jesus “learned obedience”? (Hebrews 5)

The context of Hebrews 5:7 makes it clear that “who, in the days of His flesh” refers back to Christ, the main subject in v. 5.

In Gethsemane, Jesus agonized and wept, but committed Himself to do the Father’s will in accepting the cup of suffering which would bring His death (Matt. 26: 38–46; Luke 22: 44, 45).

Anticipating bearing the burden of judgment for sin, Jesus felt its fullest pain and grief (Is. 52: 14; 53: 3–5, 10).

Though He bore the penalty in silence and did not seek to deliver Himself from it (Is. 53: 7), He did cry out from the agony of the fury of God’s wrath poured on His perfectly holy and obedient Person (Matt. 27: 46; 2 Cor. 5: 21).

Jesus asked to be saved from remaining in death, i.e., to be resurrected (Ps. 16: 9, 10). “Though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered” (v. 8).

Christ did not need to suffer in order to conquer or correct any disobedience. In His deity (as the Son of God), He understood obedience completely. As the incarnate Lord, He humbled Himself to learn (Luke 2: 52).

He learned obedience for the same reasons He bore temptation: to confirm His humanity and experience its sufferings to the fullest (2: 10; Luke 2: 52; Phil. 2: 8). Christ’s obedience was also necessary so that He could fulfill all righteousness (Matt. 5: 13) and thus prove to be the perfect sacrifice to take the place of sinners (1 Pet. 3: 18).

He was the perfectly righteous One, whose righteousness would be imputed to sinners (Rom. 3: 24–26). “And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation” (v. 9). Because of the perfect righteousness of Jesus Christ and His perfect sacrifice for sin, He became the cause of salvation.

True salvation evidences itself in obedience to Christ, from the initial obedience to the gospel command to repent and believe (Acts 5: 32; Rom. 1: 5; 2 Thess. 1: 8; 1 Pet. 1: 2, 22; 4: 17) to a life pattern of obedience to the Word (Rom. 6: 16). —-John MacArthur

ewq1938 said:

God's wrath is not for the holy. Jesus only suffered the wrath of man, not his Father. There is no wrath between any of the Trinity.

Barnes:

made “sin” (ἁμαρτίαν hamartian) does not mean that he was sin itself, or a sinner, or guilty, then it must mean that he was a sin-offering - an offering or a sacrifice for sin; and this is the interpretation which is now generally adopted by expositors; or it must be taken as an abstract for the concrete, and mean that God treated him as if he were a sinner. The former interpretation, that it means that God made him a sin-offering, is adopted by Whitby, Doddridge, Macknight, Rosenmuller, and others; the latter, that it means that God treated him as a sinner, is adopted by Vorstius, Schoettgen, Robinson (Lexicon), Dr. Bull, and others. There are many passages in the Old Testament where the word “sin” (ἁμαρτία hamartia) is used in the sense of sin-offering, or a sacrifice for sin.

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Did Jesus suffer in our place?

yeshuaslavejeff said:

I'm too tired to try to recall all the reasons not to quote that man.
However, about 6 or 7 Biblical sites in the first ten hits when searching the internet
appear to give enough information to be not just wary, but to see what is wrong...
but do not accept anything per se,
until first confirming it is not a false teaching, and do not reject anything per se, until confirming it is.
I used duck duck go >
duckduckgo . com / ?q=J**n+M**Ar***r++false+teaching&t=ffcm&ia=web

Check out enough of his own words/ teachings, if necessary, before believing it. As for me, I just find it too tiring - it wears down the saints, to keep re-hashing and checking so many this way, so it is , to me, best just to avoid them once they are known.... and of course don't take part in any false gospel, let alone any false teaching, rather expose it (sufficiently give a warning, like on a highway that a bridge ahead is out, so people can stop if they listen and go if they still don't care - at least they have been warned... )

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He’s fine doctrinally. If you have anything to add to the actual subject it would be much appreciated.

Vicky gould said:

The Man Jesus was a man and as undisciplined as we are and subject to every sinful temptation we have. We are told He was made perfect through suffering as was the Apostle Paul. I would think all of us are subject to some level of suffering which Hebrews 12 tells us the Lord brings out a harvest of righteousness. The unwanted blessing suffering.

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Of course Jesus Christ is truly God and truly human.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

It seems to me that there are subtle and serious errors, doctrinally, in the op/ copied from him, and it gets worse when going to 'follow him' or listen to more of his stuff. It was years ago this was first disclosed/ exposed by the men of God who went to him and sought to correct him in the things that were (and are) wrong. It is too serious to take lightly or to let others continue in if they have not found out yet. i.e. it is best to protect the little children and the weak in faith and the seekers from the false teachings at the start, whenever possible. This again is very fully explained online at several sites by accepted and acknowledged conservative men of God - verified through and through by Scripture vs what the false teaching says.

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Thanks for your opinion. Was there something you wanted to comment on the content of the OP about?

yeshuaslavejeff said:

Suppose you saw me go to a dealer that sells opiates on the street, then start to go in your church, without me even saying anything at all, wouldn't you warn the leaders in the church ?
That's how I feel about people who (knowingly OR UNknowingly) go to false teachers - no matter what package they bring out with them, it cannot be trusted, nor should it be. ....
Perhaps Yahuweh will permit going over the content (though as written in Scripture , it wears the saints out) .... but once again, your own points that you have yourself both seen and heard FROM GOD are not already suspect negatively.... only what is apparently from the false teacher.... (the one who was years ago revealed / exposed completely online) ....

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What if I told you thousands of false packages come into this forum daily? The forum rules state I cannot just say someone is a false teacher. You have to prove it here.

Perhaps show some courtesy and address the content of what is in the OP without dismissing it with conspiracy theories and Google searches. I’ve seen those hit sites. They are garbage and prove nothing.

I’ll ask politely again....address the OP.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

Several posters have stated that thousands (or however many) of false posts come into this forum daily.
It was proven in past years HERE, on this forum.
It is not right now 'at hand' OH, but it IS/WAS... >>, but it can be found, if needed and if wanted. Like I said, (and it was proven in the link I posted, on several sites, BTW) .....

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So you got nothing for this Op.

ewq1938 said:

God's wrath is not for the holy. Jesus only suffered the wrath of man, not his Father. There is no wrath between any of the Trinity.

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Jesus satisfied the wrath of man? How does that work?

yeshuaslavejeff said:

The best courtesy in line with all Scripture would be to not post things from someone proven false years ago (and as far as still known, unrepentant of the false teachings)

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There’s nothing he taught falsely over the years. Unless you think all Reformed are heretics. He’s Reformed and has not taught error. I’ve seen the internet garbage you speak of. It’s bearing false witness.

So is there something in the OP you would like to discuss?