Jim Jordan assigned to Intel Committee ahead of Trump impeachment hearings

Jim Jordan's wikipedia page quotes John Boehner giving his opinion of Jordan. I'm not going to link to it because of swears, but it's funny.

cow451 said:

The President is not elected by popular vote. Hills was a horrible campaigner with more baggage than Delta Airlines.

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LOL...like I didn't know that. My point was that the other poster merely said a better candidate. Which was manifestly true in every single vector (understanding of the job, intellect, etc.) and really only failed in two ways: she was bad at the electoral vote strategy and she was a powerful woman who drew the attention of the GOP back in the early 90's when she dared do something more than bake cookies. I have no doubt she's as dirty as most politicians and I have little doubt she's a nasty person in general. But those are a couple of features DJT has taken to the max!

So, I'm sorry, but there is ZERO rational view of reality that has Hillary as a worse candidate than Trump. Trump's people lucked out and spoke often to a few key electoral states. But other than that he failed to get most Americans on board with his rhetoric and his "successes" so far are limited to mortgaging our future (exploding deficit) and riding the wave that started during the Obama administration. He's also succeeded in NOT getting the US's behind handed to it somewhere, but that's only because he is a lickspittle for every strongman who flexes even a small muscle in front of him.

Trump is what happens when good strategists aim a dumb-seeking missile at an uninformed public in just the exact right spot.

Bobber said:

Maybe you're forgetting this one thing. To field a better candidate that means that has to be one who has broad support across the nation as a whole. That they did not do.

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Hillary Clinton was always a better candidate than Donald Trump. We knew that from the start.

If you are referring to the Democratic Party, well, she was more popular than all of her primary election opponents.

The_Barmecide said:

"....and riding the wave that started during the Obama administration. He's also succeeded in NOT getting the US's behind handed to it somewhere, but that's only because he is a lickspittle for every strongman who flexes even a small muscle in front of him.

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And you tribute the economy starting to get better to Obama. Sorry I don't mean to take away any of his thunder if it was deserved but the year he got in the Feds dropped interests rates down to the 0 range and never raised it back up until Trump came in. Just look at the chart. And when did rates start to rise? December 2016 immediately after Trump got elected. To be fair that's not to say they don't have to ever do such but the economy didn't start to accelerate upwards until Trump got in. The chart bears this out.

ChristianForCats said:

It seems to be very easy, actually. Any Democrat would be better than Donald Trump.

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My 12 year old son would be a better candidate. He can spell, is humble, knows his history, and has empathy.

And he certainly cares more about people than his bank account.

Bobber said:

And you tribute the economy starting to get better to Obama. Sorry I don't mean to take away any of his thunder if it was deserved but the year he got in the Feds dropped interests rates down to the 0 range and never raised it back up until Trump came in. Just look at the chart. And when did rates start to rise? December 2016 immediately after Trump got elected. To be fair that's not to say they don't have to ever do such but the economy didn't start to accelerate upwards until Trump got in. The chart bears this out. View attachment 266458

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No, the chart doesn’t bear it out. The chart shows interest rates, not economic activity.

cow451 said:

The President is not elected by popular vote. Hills was a horrible campaigner with more baggage than Delta Airlines.

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She was still likely to win when Comey announced, a scant two weeks before the election, that she was back under investigation. That was the final blow that sank her bid.

Bobber said:

And you tribute the economy starting to get better to Obama. Sorry I don't mean to take away any of his thunder if it was deserved but the year he got in the Feds dropped interests rates down to the 0 range and never raised it back up until Trump came in. Just look at the chart.View attachment 266458

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To my eyes, it looks like they already started dropping BEFORE he came into office (January 2009), and already started to rise before Obama left (January 2017). I'm not the best at reading graphs, I'll admit, but it seems you're blaming Obama for a drop that started before he came into power, but giving credit to Trump for a rise that started before he was inaugurated.

Bobber said:

And you tribute the economy starting to get better to Obama. Sorry I don't mean to take away any of his thunder if it was deserved but the year he got in the Feds dropped interests rates down to the 0 range and never raised it back up until Trump came in. Just look at the chart. And when did rates start to rise? December 2016 immediately after Trump got elected. To be fair that's not to say they don't have to ever do such but the economy didn't start to accelerate upwards until Trump got in. The chart bears this out. View attachment 266458

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Wow..that's revisionism.

The_Barmecide said:

Wow..that's revisionism.

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...or an attempt to politicize the decisions of the Federal Reserve.

Pommer said:

Well, next week you’ll begin to see the evidence, along with the rest of us.
The spin should be quite entertaining!

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not sure how much the Democrats and their media dogs can spin if the full testimonies are watched.

the only way they can keep up the charade is if people only listen to parts of the testimonies. Which their media lap dogs will play over and over and over.

NightHawkeye said:

Yes, Democrats just "know".

For nearly three years now, Adam Schiff has been declaring that he has PROOF of Trump malfeasance. Schiff appeared regularly on any broadcast TV outlet which would air his comments. Yet, now, three years later what has he produced other than noise? ZIP, ZERO, NADA ... No evidence of Trump malfeasance.

Not only have Democrats not found an impeachable crime, they haven't found any crime.

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We’ve pointed out an almost endless list of crimes and abuses of office and you've simply ignored them all and repeated the same claim in thread after thread. Trump has taught you well.

Fantine said:

Grasping, progressives are not duped by the liberal media in their opposition of Trump.

Trump gives us all the evidence we need himself. All you have to do is listen to his speeches and read his tweets, examine the characters of the cabinet he has assembled, and look at the content of the executive orders he has signed--leaving the Paris Climate Accord for example.

All the rest is superfluous. I challenge anyone to really listen to his speeches and read his tweets without writing their representatives telling them to invoke the 25th Amendment and remove him for gross incompetence.

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You seem to not only have a gross misunderstanding of the 25th Amendment but also a definition of incompetence that is based solely upon your personal policy preference. Incompetence is not what the 25th amendment is about . Incapacity is. Just as incompetence is not a grounds for impeachment because the political opposition to a President will inevitably insist that not following the tents of their political ideology equals incompetence. The Paris accord is virtue signaling nonsense that solves nothing in terms of actually dealing with climate change.

DaisyDay said:

She was still likely to win when Comey announced, a scant two weeks before the election, that she was back under investigation. That was the final blow that sank her bid.

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Nope. Hillary Clinton was put back under investigation months earlier. The reason she did not win in 2016 was many of her supporters did not vote.

hislegacy said:

not sure how much the Democrats and their media dogs can spin if the full testimonies are watched.

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That's the point. They won't. But I bet FoxNews will have a field day. It'll be like PizzaGate on Steroids OR we will learn that the guys who wrote the Constitution were complete morons who worked for the DEEEEEEEP STATE.

hislegacy said:

not sure how much the Democrats and their media dogs can spin if the full testimonies are watched.

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Probably about as well as the release of the full transcripts of the closed door sessions. In other words, they can "spin" them to present a consistent accurate picture of Donald's abuses of the office.

the only way they can keep up the charade is if people only listen to parts of the testimonies. Which their media lap dogs will play over and over and over.

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Sigh. Another post which teases that there's some information out there, somewhere, which makes Donald not seem like a criminal but then fails to identify exactly what information that is. Almost as if there's no substance behind the assertions. I mean, keep hope alive and all that, but at some point it starts to look less and less like an honest evaluation of the facts.

KCfromNC said:

Sigh. Another post which teases that there's some information out there, somewhere, which makes Donald not seem like a criminal but then fails to identify exactly what information that is. Almost as if there's no substance behind the assertions. I mean, keep hope alive and all that, but at some point it starts to look less and less like an honest evaluation of the facts.

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Look, just because they have video of Trump picking up the gun, running into the bank, demanding the money from the teller and running back out with a sack labeled ‘swag’ doesn’t mean there isn’t another video where another guy runs in at the last second and grabs the money and runs out ahead of Trump. Just because the fake deep state MSM don’t want you to see it, doesn’t make it not true! And if Trump didn’t get the money then there’s no crime!

ChristianForCats said:

. You only single out Democrats ot pretend Trump is perfect.

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Trump is not perfect but his phone call to Ukraine was. Trump even said so himself. So why not just leave it at that?

DavidPT said:

Trump is not perfect but his phone call to Ukraine was. Trump even said so himself. So why not just leave it at that?

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That's true! Trump DID tell us it was a "perfect phone call" so we should definitely believe him. I mean, if you can't trust Donald J. Trump WHO CAN YOU TRUST?