Preterism - separating the orthodox from the heretical.

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Erik Nelson

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From what I understand - this issue Paul was addressing was about one specific part of the Law (circumcision). The people of Galatia were mostly uncircumcised Gentiles (of whom the Law of Moses wasn't relevant)....and the Judaizers were spreading the heresy that Gentiles must be circumcised in order to be followers of Christ. The trouble was - again, as far as I understand - this was creating a hybrid religion that God didn't intend. The Law was fading away (in the fullness of His time it would disappear)....and circumcision wasn't meant for Gentiles. They were heirs of a "better promise" going back to Galatians 3 (still with Abraham as their shared father with the Jews just as Ishmael & Isaac shared Abraham as their father):

Galatians 3:29 ~ And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heirs according to promise.

....the question - addressed in Galatians 4 - was "who is your mother?".....works of the flesh or His promise? Those that aligned themselves with the bondwoman (relying on circumcision for salvation) and rejected the "free woman" as their "mother" were due to be cast out and denied inheritance from the Father.

From Adam Clarke's commentary on Gal 4:
Verse 30
What saith the Scripture? - (In Genesis 21:10 ) : Cast out the bond woman and her son: and what does this imply in the present case? Why, that the present
Jerusalem and her children shall be cast out of the favor of God, and shall not be heirs with the son of the free woman - shall not inherit the blessings promised to Abraham, because they believe not in the promised seed.
MacArthur Study Bible notes links "the promise" of Galatians 3:29 <---> Genesis 15:6

two chapters before "circumcision" instituted in Genesis 17 ?
 
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Hebrews 8:13, the Old Covenant was still "passing away" c.63 AD when Saint Paul wrote to the Jerusalem Jewish Christian congregation, to console them in the wake of their Bishop James' martyrdom

And what purpose did the animal sacrifices serve between Calvary and 70 AD?
How were they any different than animal sacrifices done according to the Old Testament, this year?

Act 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:



Did Paul tell Galatians it was OK to still observe the Sinai Covenant in Galatians 4:24-31?

Did the author of the Book of Hebrews say they were still at Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18?


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only one to keep it perfectly, yes



Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.


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It's how people became "children of the flesh" (Old Covenant Israelites) as opposed to "children of the promise" - New Covenant Israel (which is what was being set against each other in the New Testament/New Covenant).

Not according to what Paul said in Galatians 3:16-29.

Paul said the law was "added" 430 years "after" the promise made to Abraham "until" the seed (Christ) could come to whom the promise was made.


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[quotemkgal1 said:
Of which, circumcision was one critical aspect of what converts to Judaism were supposed to do in order to be considered an Israelite under the old covenant:
Circumcision is a part of the Abrahamic Covenant.
The son of the bondwoman was also circumcised.


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This thread is on Preterism.......not dispensationalism/covenantle theology........

Preterism - separating the orthodox from the heretical.
 
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Not according to what Paul said in Galatians 3:16-29.

Paul said the law was "added" 430 years "after" the promise made to Abraham "until" the seed (Christ) could come to whom the promise was made.


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What does all of that have to do with the topic of this thread?

Preterism - separating the orthodox from the heretical.
 
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[quotemkgal1 said:
Of which, circumcision was one critical aspect of what converts to Judaism were supposed to do in order to be considered an Israelite under the old covenant:
BAB.
This thread is on Preterism.......not dispensationalism/covenantle theology........

Preterism - separating the orthodox from the heretical.


Did I mention Dispensationalism ?


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Many Preterists claim the Old Covenant remained in effect until 70 AD.
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So? Many preterists see 70AD Jerusalem in Revelation 18.........And your point?
 
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So? Many preterists see 70AD Jerusalem in Revelation 18.........And your point?

And some people make claims about books they have not read...

Some people claim they have been kidnapped by aliens...

Joseph Smith claimed he found gold plates...
He also claimed people lived on the moon...

Lyndon Johnson claimed North Vietnam attacked one of our ships in the Gulf of Tonkin...


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