How did the ark Kinds give rise to extant taxa?

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So, all evolutionists are in agreement with every aspect of evolution, and see it exactly the same?

The level of disagreement among 'evolutionists' is nowhere near the level of disagreement among creationists.

Evolutionists tend to disagree on details. Creationists disagree on fundamentals.
 
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So, all evolutionists are in agreement with every aspect of evolution, and see it exactly the same?
Evolutionists don't claim to base their beliefs on a book written word for word by God and free of error of any kind,
 
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The level of disagreement among 'evolutionists' is nowhere near the level of disagreement among creationists.

Evolutionists tend to disagree on details. Creationists disagree on fundamentals.
Oh, I see, both have disagreements... :scratch: why was it you brought it up?
 
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Evolutionists don't claim to base their beliefs on a book written word for word by God and free of error of any kind,

Nor that we are supernaturally guided in its interpretation.
 
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Evolutionists don't claim to base their beliefs on a book written word for word by God and free of error of any kind,
No, they go with Darwin's 'error-free' book.
 
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Oh, I see, both have disagreements... :scratch: why was it you brought it up?

You are missing the point: it's the level of disagreement with respect to each side that is the difference.

Plus, as Speedwell points out creationists routinely appeal to divine infallibility to support their position. Even when said position disagrees with another creationist appealing to the same divine infallibility.
 
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And, it's not fundamental to evolutionary belief??? :rolleyes:

Natural selection is one of the mechanisms by which biological evolution proceeds, sure. But that's not the same as claiming On the Origin of Species is error-free.

You appear to be completely mixing up your own arguments. Take some time to figure out what you're trying to argue first.
 
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And, it's not fundamental to evolutionary belief??? :rolleyes:
No. Darwin's was the initial insight and he is respected for it, but the content of the work has long been superseded by advances in science and is no longer considered particularly relevant.
 
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Natural selection is one of the mechanisms by which biological evolution proceeds, sure. But that's not the same as claiming On the Origin of Species is error-free.

You appear to be completely mixing up your own arguments. Take some time to figure out what you're trying to argue first.
My use of 'error-free' was jest only, in response to speedwell's comment. Surely by now, you don't believe I think it's error-free? I know what I'm arguing... and you're scrambling again.
 
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My use of 'error-free' was jest only, in response to speedwell's comment. Surely by now, you don't believe I think it's error-free?

There was no smiley face so your intent was unclear. I've had many creationists project the idea that evolutionists think Darwin, et al are infallible, so for all I know you were thinking that.

I know what I'm arguing... and you're scrambling again.

Now you *are* projecting.
 
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No. Darwin's was the initial insight and he is respected for it, but the content of the work has long been superseded by advances in science and is no longer considered particularly relevant.
So, its fundamental to the foundation of evolutionary belief.
 
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My use of 'error-free' was jest only, in response to speedwell's comment. Surely by now, you don't believe I think it's error-free? I know what I'm arguing... and you're scrambling again.
You seemed to be arguing that Origin of Species is regarded in the same light by evolutionists as you regard Scripture.
 
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So, its fundamental to the foundation of evolutionary belief.
Not really. The idea of evolution was being considered by a number of scientists at the time. Darwin just happened to publish first. If all copies of Origin of Species vanished overnight along with our memory of it, evolutionary biology would not be affected by it.
 
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