'Good riddance': New York governor cheers Trump changing residency to Florida

tulc said:

No, it really doesn't. I understand why some conservatives really really want to believe this particular myth, but unfortunately, much like the whole "if people reject conservatives Gods presence leaves." myth mentioned earlier in this thread they are just that: myths.
tulc(just something he thought should be pointed out)

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If I am not mistaken Andrew Cuomo says he is a Christian of the Catholic variety. It is not in any way Christ like to reject anyone or be happy when someone goes away. We are supposed to love our neighbor not say good riddance to them. If someone is rejected on the basis that they disagree with the politician's POV on political issues, that rejection tells us more about the politician than it does about the one being rejected. If he wishes to use his office to tell people they don't belong in the state unless they agree with his political viewpoint and he publicly celebrates when one of them does so, is it not understandable that there are other Christians with opposing political P's OV that consider him to be disingenuous in calling himself a Christian and think he is working in opposition to God by dividing people based upon political ideology and rejecting those that do not comply with his. He is prioritizing political ideology above all else. Where does God find a place in that hierarchy?

tulc said:

Oh I don't know, I'm pretty aware of all those subjects, but I understand why you want to think I wouldn't. After all, If I do understand them and I've come to totally different conclusions then you that might mean that you're wrong about them. Some people find that idea to be...scary.

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All it would take for you to demonstrate that understanding would be to display the platforms of each side and compare them with scripture. I do know this much: Take away the Bible and Christianity and you destroy a massive amount of conservative ideology as we know it. Destroy Charles Darwin and evolution, and you have dealt a fatal blow to progressive ideology as we know it.

tulc said:

I think that may be what you may have meant in your first post? But that's not actually what you said, you tied "conservative" and "Bible believing Christian" to Gods presence, not me. I'm the one who pointed out that you may be overestimating those two groups importance to Gods presence in a place.
tulc(just a thought)

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It is the Christian presence that cannot be overestimated because the greater the Christian presence and activity, the more restraint there is on evil, but remove the Christian presence and evil is far less restrained than it otherwise would be and because God dwells in us, the removal of Christians also removes that aspect of His presence and that day will eventually come when Christ will return to take His Church from the earth and in that day, those who have hardened their hearts against the Gospel will finally get to experience what it is like without that aspect of God's presence in the world.

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If I am not mistaken Andrew Cuomo says he is a Christian of the Catholic variety. It is not in any way Christ like to reject anyone or be happy when someone goes away. We are supposed to love our neighbor not say good riddance to them. If someone is rejected on the basis that they disagree with the politician's POV on political issues, that rejection tells us more about the politician than it does about the one being rejected. If he wishes to use his office to tell people they don't belong in the state unless they agree with his political viewpoint and he publicly celebrates when one of them does so, is it not understandable that there are other Christians with opposing political P's OV that consider him to be disingenuous in calling himself a Christian and think he is working in opposition to God by dividing people based upon political ideology and rejecting those that do not comply with his. He is prioritizing political ideology above all else. Where does God find a place in that hierarchy?

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A man like that might claim to be of the faith but by his policies, actions, and political positions that he has taken in regards to those things that are the most fundamental (i.e. moral issues and individual liberties) he has shown himself to be a liar. As our Lord said, we will know them by their fruits.

tulc said:

you mean like these fruits?
All Pants on Fire! statements involving Donald Trump | PolitiFact
or maybe this sort?

tulc(just curious)

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Nowhere near comparable to the wanton slaughter of innocent children enabled by Cuomo unless you think those already born into this world are somehow superior to the lives growing inside the womb and who are have already been shown to be fully self-ware even before birth.

Trump, trump, trump, trump, trump.... nothing but trump.

So many threads on Trump! He must be well loved!

Lost4words(Thinks people just love Trump)

tulc said:

Ahhh! You do understand, when anyone brings up abortion in a thread not about abortion? It's the Christian equivalent of someone "Godwinning" a thread, right? It means they've run out of arguments to support their position and instead they want to make everyone ignore that fact and instead move the goalposts to something that makes some people stop thinking about that uncomfortable truth. Also? It's usually an attempt to cast whoever the person is arguing with as "THE EVIL PERSON IN THIS ARGUMENT!!" thus "neutralizing" the fact that they (the person who brought up abortion) are not able to support their position as being "the only right/Godly one on that other issue.".
tulc(just something he's learned in his many years on CF)

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You are the one who seems to think that making fun of someone (which I agree is wrong) is more evil than killing a baby, which is how abortion got brought into this thread, but you don't want anyone to think about that uncomfortable truth which is why you are attempting to draw the focus onto Trump's character flaws rather than the bigger picture.

At least someone who shows themselves to be pro-life has a conscience. Those who advocate for the murder of innocent babies don't seem to have one.

Lost4words said:

Trump, trump, trump, trump, trump.... nothing but trump.

So many threads on Trump! He must be well loved!

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Or well hated. When someone posts a thread having to do with Trump, what else do you expect it is going to be about? I am sure that in the future there will be threads about succeeding Presidents as well and I am also sure that there were threads about Barack Obama before there were threads about Trump.

tulc said:

hmmm...and who brought it up? Me or you? The reason I ask is because, since this thread isn't about abortion, it would seem the person who brought it up would be the person who has given up even pretending they can support the things under discussion and instead want to "move the goalpost" in the discussion to something else. So, let's get this out of the way: "If you'd like to discuss what we were discussing, I have no problem with that, if however you'd like to change the subject you should probably go a head and start another thread where that subject can be discussed instead."
tulc(it's Contenders Edge's choice)

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I was responding to a post regarding Andrew Cuomo. You turned it into a discussion about Trump. It was you who moved the goal posts and in doing so, suggested that a man who kills babies is better than a man who may simply be an obnoxious baffoon at times.

tulc said:

So...you didn't bring up abortion in a thread not about abortion?
tulc(is pretty sure it was Contenders Edge that did that)

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I did not bring up abortion specifically in my response thread pertaining to Cuomo, but when you tried to draw a moral equivalency between Trump and Cuomo, that is what led me to point out that a man who ridicules someone is not as evil as a man who kills helpless babies.

tulc said:

...so that would be a "Yes I did bring up abortion in a thread not about abortion."?
tulc(thought that's what happened)

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It was you who attempted to make the alleged actions of Trump, however unacceptable they may have been, to be worse than the murderous, anti-liberty, and anti-Christ policies of Andrew Cuomo who by his policies and actions, has clearly lied about what faith he holds to.

tulc said:

so that would also be a "Yes I did bring up abortion in a non-abortion thread."? I do understand why people do it, it's usually to try and obscure the fact that they've pretty much ran out of arguments to support what they say so they start ringing the abortion bell to hide that fact. They know, once they ring that bell a lot of people simply stop thinking about what's under discussion and they just lock step in behind who ever rang it.
tulc(has seen it used for several decades now to shut down any discussion Republican/conservatives can't actually support with facts or arguments)

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You're the one that claimed that Trump made fun of a disabled person in order to draw a moral equivalence between him and Cuomo.

Making fun of disabled people is no more a topic of this thread than abortion is which I only brought up to show that killing a baby, and Cuomo has killed countless through his abortion policies, is immensely than making fun of someone. Neither should be condoned, but Cuomo has enacted policies far more horrendous than anything Trump has ever been accused of doing.

But if I have strayed from the topic of this thread, how have I strayed any further than you have since you set that course by bringing up an incident that is in itself not relevant to the thread? If abortion is not relevant to this thread, then neither should an alleged incident of Trump making fun of a disabled news reporter.

In essence, you are guilty of everything you have accused me of doing since you could not initially justify the wickedness of New York's leadership whose policies have been anything but biblical or Christ-like.