Call transcript already Exonerates Trump

yeshuaslavejeff said:

Sorry, no. Apparently you did not read what God said to Israel when they sought by majority a king, because they wanted a king just like the other nations had.
The prophet was told by Yahuweh - it is not you they have rejected, but Me - they have rejected MY RULE OVER THEM.....

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It is your responsibility alone to find specifically "democracy is evil" in the Bible. If that specific phrase is not in it, there is no reason to imply democracy is evil.

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Show me the Scripture that says democracy is evil. I will keep asking you until you PROVE IT IS.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

Did Jesus ever talk to/with people ? (yes)
Did Jesus TRUST people? (no)

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Jesus talked to HUNDREDS of people. If you don't know that, you never read the Bible.

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I was only saying the Bible does not specifically state democracy is evil.

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The word democracy is not in the Bible if you can't show it to me.

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Here it is:

noun: democracy
a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

Similar:
representative government
elective government
self-government
government by the people

Opposite:
tyranny
dictatorship

Aldebaran said:

The transcript of the president's call to Ukraine was released by the White House

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No, if it exists it was moved to highly classified storage after Donald's employees saw it and were alarmed at what it contained.

and yet the contents of it are twisted by the media all the time.

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In what ways are they "twisted"? If it happens "all the time" seems like posting 10 concrete examples to back up your assertion should be pretty straightforward.

Aldebaran said:

Have you seen the "full transcript locked in a secret server"? If not, how would you know whether or not what we see has been edited?

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The various instances of ... in it show that things have been left out, hence it isn't a full transcript. That's just basic "this is how the English language works" kinda stuff.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

It is even worse than I thought.....
Why does the US media lie so much? — RT Op-ed

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Oh, well, if Russian government propaganda writes something, who are we to question?

ChristianForCats said:

Show me the Scripture that says democracy is evil. I will keep asking you until you PROVE IT IS.

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A type of government is not good or evil in and of itself. It's what the people do with it that can be evil. Communism isn't evil all by itself. It's what the people do with it that is evil. A democracy could be evil if the people in it so evil things with it.

The Bible doesn't condemn or endorse any particular type of human run government. It doesn't say Communism is evil. Yet we know communism killed more people than the Nazis did. It doesn't say democracy is good either. But we know from historical contexts that some types of governments are better than others. Our representative government is a good one. It has served us well. But it too good turn bad.

KCfromNC said:

No, if it exists it was moved to highly classified storage after Donald's employees saw it and were alarmed at what it contained.


In what ways are they "twisted"? If it happens "all the time" seems like posting 10 concrete examples to back up your assertion should be pretty straightforward.

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If it exists? So you don't really know if "it" really exists. You don't really know that it was moved to a secret server. In fact you don't really know anything, but what the media has said it speculated. In fact there is a LOT of speculation going on. Even with the elipsed stuff. Speculation on what was said or the words that were used. We haven't actually heard any testimony from anyone.

rjs330 said:

If it exists? So you don't really know if "it" really exists. You don't really know that it was moved to a secret server. In fact you don't really know anything, but what the media has said it speculated. In fact there is a LOT of speculation going on. Even with the elipsed stuff. Speculation on what was said or the words that were used. We haven't actually heard any testimony from anyone.

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It would be false, we do know it was moved to a secret server -- that is why on the pages of the memorandum that were released it shows "SECRET/ORCON/NOFORN" at the top and bottom of every page, which has been crossed out, and "UNCLASSIFIED" stamped in red ink, just above or below the crossed out line. The fact that it shows it was classified as Secret shows that it was on a classified server -- and that allegedly is one of the illegalities, as there appears to have been no classified information in the call (note the lack of redactions from the document).