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That Ezekiel chapter thirty seven may not be limited to being a one time event.... but may occurr again and again and again.......

and those who did not come to salvation in one time line..... may come to salvation in another resurrection .....????

Multiverse Theory and multiple Ezekiel 37 type events.

Hi there Dennis: The Lord speaks in various dimensions and in various degrees. I am finding more of the present progressive aspect of our God as my old life reaches consummation on this side. But our God is the God of the past, present, and future. He is the God of unlimited, and as such reaches His desired purpose in every dimension of the heavens, earth and underworld.

The risen Christ preaches to the dead

“Christ also has once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: by which also he went and preached to the spirits in prison; which once were disobedient, when once the long suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was in preparation, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water… for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.”

Dead=

nekros= a corpse (from nekus)=

Breathed his last/ lifeless.

Deceased/ departed.

Destitute of life/ without life.

Inanimate.

Disobedient= apeitheo=

Not to allow one’s self to be persuaded.

To refuse or withhold belief & obedience.

To refuse belief and obedience.

Not to comply with.

Live= zao=

To be alive with resurrection life.
 
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Very truly interesting indeed!!!!


Hi there Dennis: The Lord speaks in various dimensions and in various degrees. I am finding more of the present progressive aspect of our God as my old life reaches consummation on this side. But our God is the God of the past, present, and future. He is the God of unlimited, and as such reaches His desired purpose in every dimension of the heavens, earth and underworld.

The risen Christ preaches to the dead

“Christ also has once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: by which also he went and preached to the spirits in prison; which once were disobedient, when once the long suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was in preparation, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water… for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.”

Dead=

nekros= a corpse (from nekus)=

Breathed his last/ lifeless.

Deceased/ departed.

Destitute of life/ without life.

Inanimate.

Disobedient= apeitheo=

Not to allow one’s self to be persuaded.

To refuse or withhold belief & obedience.

To refuse belief and obedience.

Not to comply with.

Live= zao=

To be alive with resurrection life.
 
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There is a glorious hymn that sums up what this process is leading>>>

When we are with unveiled face
Beholding and reflecting the glory of the Lord,
He infuses us with the elements
Of what He is and of what He has done.
But we all with unveiled face,
Beholding and reflecting
Like a mirror the glory of the Lord,
Are being transformed
Into the same image
From glory to glory,
Even as from the Lord Spirit.

Thus we are being transformed
Metabolic’lly to have His life-shape
By His life-pow’r with His life-essence,
Transfigured by renewing our mind.

Great to hear from you again FineLinen and thanks for sharing the words to this hymn :)
 
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Great to hear from you again FineLinen and thanks for sharing the words to this hymn :)

Dear Anthony: Your presence with us has been a blessing.

I have been recently considering the word "better" used 12 times in Hebrews. This word goes far beyond good to the joining of "mallon" meaning more, & pollo meaning very much better. All of this theme is encapsulated in kreitton meaning nobler & more excellent & superior by far.

This wonderful expression in this hymn expresses "better" in glorious words of life.

When we are with unveiled face
Beholding and reflecting the glory of the Lord,
He infuses us with the elements
Of what He is and of what He has done.
But we all with unveiled face,
Beholding and reflecting
Like a mirror the glory of the Lord,
Are being transformed
Into the same image
From glory to glory,
Even as from the Lord Spirit.

Thus we are being transformed
Metabolic’lly to have His life-shape
By His life-pow’r with His life-essence,
Transfigured by renewing our mind.

Good cascading into better
 
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He chooses the common, the blind, the prisoner, the lame, the leprous, beggars, thieves, taxmen, harlots, conmen, fools, chiefs of sinners, the unworthy, the unloving, unrighteous, the faithless, even you and me.
Pick me, pick me. - lol

Romans 4:4-5
Now to the one who works, wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation. 5 However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.
 
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Your posts appear to be saying that Jesus Christ was not necessary, because whether anyone repented or not, not accepting Christ as their Savior, they will be "saved".
No one will be saved without accepting Christ as their Savior. Every knee will bow and EVERY tongue confess Jesus Christ as Lord. (= salvation) When does that happen?
 
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The principle of the organic unity of our race is that which underlies the whole divine work, alike in Creation, and in the Incarnation. It is the divine idea, so to speak, to regard humanity as one organic whole, one body summed up in Adam, summed up anew in the second Adam - a whole which must stand or fall together. All this, too, is very legible in the divinely-given symbolism of the old law, and is reflected in the Gospel with perfect clearness. - Thomas Allin

Christ Triumphant by Thomas Allin chapter three

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

1 John 2:2
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

1 Corinthians 12:20-25
As it is, there are many parts, but one body.
21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other.
 
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Acts 13:48 is an interesting verse where the phrase "as many as were appointed to life age-during"

Young's Literal Translation
Acts 13:

48 And the nations hearing were glad, and were glorifying the word of the Lord, and did believe — as many as were appointed to life age-during;


Romans 9:22 mentions vessels prepared for "utter destruction". It is used in conjunction with "Judas"
And used 2 times in Revelation concerning the "the beast".

G684 1. actively, a destroying, utter destruction: as, of vessels, Romans 9:22; τοῦ μύρου, waste, Mark 14:4 (in Matthew 26:8 without a genitive) (in Polybius 6, 59, 5 consumption, opposed to τήρησις); the putting of a man to death, Acts 25:16 Rec.; by metonymy, a destructive thing or opinion: in plural 2 Peter 2:2 Rec.; but the correct reading ἀσελγείαις was long ago adopted here.
2. passively, a perishing, ruin, destruction;

Rom 9:22
What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction<684>,

Jhn 17:12
when I was with them in the world, I was keeping them in Thy name; those whom Thou hast given to me I did guard, and none of them was destroyed<622>, except the son of the destruction<684>, that the Writing may be fulfilled.

Rev 17:8
'The beast that thou didst see: it was, and it is not; and it is about to come up out of the abyss, and to go away to destruction<684>, and wonder shall those dwelling upon the earth, whose names have not been written upon the scroll of the life from the foundation of the world, beholding the beast that was, and is not, although it is.
Rev 17:11
and the beast that was, and is not, he also is eighth, and out of the seven he is, and to destruction<684> he doth go away
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Meyer's NT Commentary

Acts 13:48-49. Τὸν λόγον τ. Κυρίου] see on Acts 8:25.
ὅσοι ἦσαν τεταγμένοι εἰς ζωὴν αἰώνιον] as many of them as were ordained to eternal (Messianic) life. Luke regards, in accordance with the Pauline conception (Romans 9; Ephesians 1:4-5; Ephesians 1:11; Ephesians 3:11; 2 Thessalonians 2:13, al.), the believing of those Gentiles as ensuing in conformity to their destination, ordered by God already (namely, from of old), to partake of eternal life. Not all in general became believers, but all those who were divinely destined to this ζωή; and not the rest. Chrysostom correctly remarks: ἀφωρισμένοι τῷ Θεῷ. The τάξις of God in regard to those who became believers was in accordance with His πρόγνωσις, by means of which He foreknew them as credituros; but the divine τάξις was realized by the divine κλῆσις effectual for faith (Romans 8:28-30)—of which Paul, with his preaching, was here the instrument. It was dogmatic arbitrariness which converted our passage into a proof of the decretum absolutum;[13] see Beza and Calvin in loc., and Canon. Dordrac. p. 205, ed. Augusti. For Luke leaves entirely out of account the relation of “being ordained” to free self-determination; the object of his remark is not to teach a doctrine, but to indicate a historical sequence. Indeed, the evident relation, in which this notice stands to the apostle’s own words, ἐπειδὴ … ζωῆς (Acts 13:46), rather testifies against the conception of the absolute decree, and for the idea, according to which the destination of God does not exclude (comp. Acts 2:41) individual freedom (ὡς οὐ κατʼ ἀνάγκην, Chrysostom); although, if the matter is contemplated only from one of those two sides which it necessarily has, the other point of view, owing to the imperfection of man’s mode of looking at it, cannot receive proportionally its due, but appears to be logically nullified. See, more particularly, the remark subjoined to Romans 9:33. Accordingly, it is not to be explained of the actus paedagogicos (Calovius), of the praesentem gratiae operationem per evangelium (Bengel), of the drawing of the Father, John 6:44; John 6:37, etc., with the Lutheran dogmatic writers; but the literal meaning is to be adhered to, namely, the divine destination to eternal salvation: ἔθετο αὐτοὺς ὁ Θεὸς εἰς περιποίησιν σωτηρίας, 1 Thessalonians 5:9.
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48. and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed] In the controversies on predestination and election this sentence has constantly been brought forward. But it is manifestly unfair to take a sentence out of its context, and interpret it as if it stood alone. In Acts 13:46 we are told that the Jews had judged themselves unworthy of eternal life, and all that is meant by the words in this verse is the opposite of that expression. The Jews were acting so as to proclaim themselves unworthy; the Gentiles were making manifest their desire to be deemed worthy. The two sections were like opposing troops, ranged by themselves, and to some degree, though not unalterably, looked upon as so arranged by God on different sides. Thus the Gentiles were ordering themselves, and were ordered, unto eternal life. The text says no word to warrant us in thinking that none could henceforth change sides.
 
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Acts 13:48 is an interesting verse where the phrase "as many as were appointed to life age-during"

Young's Literal Translation
Acts 13:

48 And the nations hearing were glad, and were glorifying the word of the Lord, and did believe — as many as were appointed to life age-during;


Romans 9:22 mentions vessels prepared for "utter destruction". It is used in conjunction with "Judas"
And used 2 times in Revelation concerning the "the beast".

G684 1. actively, a destroying, utter destruction: as, of vessels, Romans 9:22; τοῦ μύρου, waste, Mark 14:4 (in Matthew 26:8 without a genitive) (in Polybius 6, 59, 5 consumption, opposed to τήρησις); the putting of a man to death, Acts 25:16 Rec.; by metonymy, a destructive thing or opinion: in plural 2 Peter 2:2 Rec.; but the correct reading ἀσελγείαις was long ago adopted here.
2. passively, a perishing, ruin, destruction;

Rom 9:22
What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction<684>,

Jhn 17:12
when I was with them in the world, I was keeping them in Thy name; those whom Thou hast given to me I did guard, and none of them was destroyed<622>, except the son of the destruction<684>, that the Writing may be fulfilled.

Rev 17:8
'The beast that thou didst see: it was, and it is not; and it is about to come up out of the abyss, and to go away to destruction<684>, and wonder shall those dwelling upon the earth, whose names have not been written upon the scroll of the life from the foundation of the world, beholding the beast that was, and is not, although it is.
Rev 17:11
and the beast that was, and is not, he also is eighth, and out of the seven he is, and to destruction<684> he doth go away
==============================
Meyer's NT Commentary

Acts 13:48-49. Τὸν λόγον τ. Κυρίου] see on Acts 8:25.
ὅσοι ἦσαν τεταγμένοι εἰς ζωὴν αἰώνιον] as many of them as were ordained to eternal (Messianic) life. Luke regards, in accordance with the Pauline conception (Romans 9; Ephesians 1:4-5; Ephesians 1:11; Ephesians 3:11; 2 Thessalonians 2:13, al.), the believing of those Gentiles as ensuing in conformity to their destination, ordered by God already (namely, from of old), to partake of eternal life. Not all in general became believers, but all those who were divinely destined to this ζωή; and not the rest. Chrysostom correctly remarks: ἀφωρισμένοι τῷ Θεῷ. The τάξις of God in regard to those who became believers was in accordance with His πρόγνωσις, by means of which He foreknew them as credituros; but the divine τάξις was realized by the divine κλῆσις effectual for faith (Romans 8:28-30)—of which Paul, with his preaching, was here the instrument. It was dogmatic arbitrariness which converted our passage into a proof of the decretum absolutum;[13] see Beza and Calvin in loc., and Canon. Dordrac. p. 205, ed. Augusti. For Luke leaves entirely out of account the relation of “being ordained” to free self-determination; the object of his remark is not to teach a doctrine, but to indicate a historical sequence. Indeed, the evident relation, in which this notice stands to the apostle’s own words, ἐπειδὴ … ζωῆς (Acts 13:46), rather testifies against the conception of the absolute decree, and for the idea, according to which the destination of God does not exclude (comp. Acts 2:41) individual freedom (ὡς οὐ κατʼ ἀνάγκην, Chrysostom); although, if the matter is contemplated only from one of those two sides which it necessarily has, the other point of view, owing to the imperfection of man’s mode of looking at it, cannot receive proportionally its due, but appears to be logically nullified. See, more particularly, the remark subjoined to Romans 9:33. Accordingly, it is not to be explained of the actus paedagogicos (Calovius), of the praesentem gratiae operationem per evangelium (Bengel), of the drawing of the Father, John 6:44; John 6:37, etc., with the Lutheran dogmatic writers; but the literal meaning is to be adhered to, namely, the divine destination to eternal salvation: ἔθετο αὐτοὺς ὁ Θεὸς εἰς περιποίησιν σωτηρίας, 1 Thessalonians 5:9.
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48. and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed] In the controversies on predestination and election this sentence has constantly been brought forward. But it is manifestly unfair to take a sentence out of its context, and interpret it as if it stood alone. In Acts 13:46 we are told that the Jews had judged themselves unworthy of eternal life, and all that is meant by the words in this verse is the opposite of that expression. The Jews were acting so as to proclaim themselves unworthy; the Gentiles were making manifest their desire to be deemed worthy. The two sections were like opposing troops, ranged by themselves, and to some degree, though not unalterably, looked upon as so arranged by God on different sides. Thus the Gentiles were ordering themselves, and were ordered, unto eternal life. The text says no word to warrant us in thinking that none could henceforth change sides.

Dear Little Lamb: Our God is overwhelming Life. There is nothing but nothing that will not ultimately be swallowed up in Him!

Destruction is qualified and comes from the God of ta pante whose ending is the beginning. The radical all begins in Him, the radical all ends in Him. Everything of our God has lasting effect, even destruction. He kills, He also makes alive!

A new day is breaking in this old realm of dismay. I wrote this some years ago when glimpses of lambent glow were breaking in upon me. It expresses today what I find harder and harder to express!

Is it not strange the long seasons that can elapse on the back-side of the desert?

Year by year falls into the great abyss, and at the juncture where we can no longer speak, and the great struggle to do the will of God vanishes into weakness and death, the Bush appears pulsating with Deity. It is there at the asamuth of death and weakness the Living One speaks.

“Take off your shoes from off your feet”

Holy ground!

The place where dust and Divinity meet! It is there in absolute weakness and inability, the Lord manifests Himself as the God who raises the dead. The road into the Tree of Life is by way of the flaming swords swirling in every direction. Those who reach for the Tree will suffer the loss of the hand, the fingers, the grasp of all they are! And as the process of the swirling swords rage upon these ones, great loss is inflicted, for nothing, no one, comes to the other side the same as it enters…NOTHING!..NOTHING!..NOTHING!

The great stages of the Living One’s glory must be in degrees of glory/doxa. We are changed from one degree of glory to another and another! It requires a thought beginning in the mind of the caterpillar that ultimately leads to the building of a cocoon from which caterpillars become butterflies, and dust moves from the road of life into the Divine One, described as “the Living”, the “I am”, not the I was, the I AM.

It is this Heavenly Road that grasps us, the Heavenly One, the Source leading to the Road, the sustaining Guide of the Road, and the Goal of the Road. All things lead to Him, through Him and for Him! And by Him all things consist. It has taken me over 76 years to go a journey that could be accomplished in 11 days, but dust and Divinity must meet; the goal is not all the story, the path is of equal value in the I AM!

Each of us are on different stages of our Father’s drawing hand, some so wrapped up in themselves they cannot see the bush that is aflame and is not devoured. It is just a common bush for many, but

"Earth’s crammed with heaven, and every common bush afire with God; and only he who sees takes off his shoes. -Eliz. Barrett Browning-
 
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  1. To receive Him it must be granted to you. It does not come by the will of the flesh, nor the will of man.

  2. The Lord must open your heart (like Lydia).

  3. No man can come to Jesus Christ “it is granted of My Father.”

  4. The foundation for being a disciple of Jesus Christ,
You did not choose Me, I chose you.
That's what I call GOOD NEWS!
Thank You!
 
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  1. To receive Him it must be granted to you. It does not come by the will of the flesh, nor the will of man.

  2. The Lord must open your heart (like Lydia).

  3. No man can come to Jesus Christ “it is granted of My Father.”

  4. The foundation for being a disciple of Jesus Christ,
You did not choose Me, I chose you.
What are the consequences if God doesn't choose you?
 
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*Watching Calvinists vs Arminianists*

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That’s why I love Lutheranism. The only dog they have in this fight is the one they bought at the consession stand.

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God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth. God takes no delight in the death of the wicked. Do you know who the children of the devil are? It's religious people who are full of hatred and with murderous hearts. I've met quite a few in various churches I've been to. Modern day Pharisees. God loves them too.
That's good. Here's another one.

Romans 5:10
For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!
 
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What are the consequences if God doesn't choose you?
"many are called, but few are chosen". (Matthew 22:14) The chosen in this day and age are those who serve God and represent Him. So those that are not chosen do not represent God in any way.
 
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God writes the book of our life at conception. It is up to us if we want to follow God's plan for us and our life. He gives us all of our gifts - talents and abilities to bring him praise and honor.

"Your eyes saw my unformed body; all my days were written in Your book and ordained for me before one of them came to be. How precious to me are Your thoughts, O God, how vast is their sum!" (Psalm 139:16,17)

It is all up to you?

“As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God .”

He gave= Theos didomi

Not = ou

Of blood = haima

Nor = oude

The will = thelēma

The flesh = sarx

Of man = anēr

Of God = ek Theos

"I will draw all unto Me"
 
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Mystery = musterion =

Not the mysterious, but that which, being outside the range of unassisted natural apprehension, can be made known only by Divine revelation, and is made known in a manner and at a time appointed by God, and to those only who are illumined by His Spirit.

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“Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, To the praise of the glory of His grace , wherein He has made us accepted in the beloved. In whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace ; Wherein He has abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; Having made known unto us the mystery of His will , according to His good pleasure which He has purposed in Himself :That in the dispensation of the fulness of times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in Him: In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of Him who works all things after the counsel of His own will .”
 
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Yes of course it is. God does not change, He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. Your name is written in the Lambs book of life from the foundation of the world. People can be blotted out of the book of life but there is no scripture about adding someone to the book of life. Psalm 69:28 "May they be blotted out of the book of life and not be listed with the righteous."
 
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It is all up to you?

“As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God .”

He gave= Theos didomi

Not = ou

Of blood = haima

Nor = oude

The will = thelēma

The flesh = sarx

Of man = anēr

Of God = ek Theos

"I will draw all unto Me"

"He comes to us in the brokenness of our health, in the shipwreck of our family lives, in the loss of all possible peace of mind, even in the very thick of our sins. He saves us in our disasters, not from them. He emphatically does not promise to meet only the odd winner of the self-improvement lottery. He meets us all in our endless and inescapable losing." -Robert Farrar Capon
 
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"many are called, but few are chosen". (Matthew 22:14) The chosen in this day and age are those who serve God and represent Him. So those that are not chosen do not represent God in any way.
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But I meant chosen in the way the OP defines it. Not the called, that may or may not be chosen. The OP is presenting predestination as apposed to free will. Although free will is not mentioned.

What are the consequences if God doesn't choose you?
 
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