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Actually that is not true Laz. Paul did mention 'hell' but the false pen of the scribes that Jeff believes in had to cover it up, because....embarrassingly enough for Jeff's theology, Christians have been filling it for 2,000 years. Let's see if we can find it.

NAS 1CO 15:55 "O DEATH, WHERE IS YOUR VICTORY? O DEATH, WHERE IS YOUR STING.

NIV 1CO 15:55 "Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?"

RSV 1CO 15:55 "O death, where is thy victory? O death, where is thy sting?"


Is there any help in the above translations? Nope, Nada...the truth is missing in action. So let's take another step and hit one of your favorites translations to see if 'the truth' be made plain.

KJV 1CO 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

Do you see the truth yet? Nope, even those scribes, who translated a Greek word in this text as HELL 10 times, failed to do so here. So, only 1 time did they feel like putting the true translation of that Greek word down in this verse, when they said "grave".

Now let's go to one of those UNI/UR translations which we always try to get the dumb sheep to look at.

YOUNGS LITERAL TRANSLATION
1CO 15:55 where, O Death/thanatos, thy sting? where, O Hades/hades, thy victory?'


There you have it. Looks to me like even Jeff is going to end up in HELL according to all the false scribes attempts to hide that fact from those who only read the 'orthodox' translations of complete indoctrination. :idea: When I say Jeff above, of course that means 'should the Lord tarry'...AND if Jeff is truly born again, of course. But then, that applies to all of us. :)

Dear Hillsage: What a wonderful day it is when the Master of Ephphatha opens our blind eyes & deaf ears to release us from chains into Himself! It is He who opens prison doors & sets the captive free. It is He, the Master Lesous, who holds the keys of death and hell and all the dismal hold of thanatos. Yes, and as the Master Locksmith, He knows how to turn the keys!

I Believe

I believe that Jesus is “able to subdue all things to himself.” -Phil. 3:21-

I believe that Jesus came “that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are in earth in Him. In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His own will.” -Eph. 1:10,11-

I believe “the Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering towards us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.” -2 Peter 3:9-

I Believe

I believe “God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men’s sins against them. And He has committed to us the message of reconciliation. We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors as though God was making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: be reconciled to God.” -2 Cor. 5:19, 20-

I believe that “all nations shall be blessed.” -Gal. 3:8-

I believe that “the bread of God is He who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.” -John 6:33-

I believe that Jesus commanded us to be like himself: “Love your enemies, bless those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.” -Matt. 5:44,45

I believe Jesus when he said: “And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw [Greek=draw, drag, impel] all mankind unto myself.”

I believe that “creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but by reason of Him who subjected it in hope, because creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.” -Romans 8: 20,21

"No, there is no escape. There is no heaven with a little of hell in it--no plan to retain this or that of the devil in our hearts or our pockets. Out Satan must go, every hair and feather!" -George MacDonald
 
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“For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

NOTHING!

  1. Not death.

  2. Not life.

  3. Not angels.

  4. Not powers.

  5. Not the present/ not the future.

  6. No power.
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Nothing except ourselves.
 
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Nothing except ourselves.

Nope!

NOTHING!

  1. Not death.

  2. Not life.

  3. Not angels.

  4. Not powers.

  5. Not the present/ not the future.

  6. No power.
ouden= no one (including your wee self)
 
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Nope!

NOTHING!

  1. Not death.

  2. Not life.

  3. Not angels.

  4. Not powers.

  5. Not the present/ not the future.

  6. No power.
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13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will die ,but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body you will live.

There's those nasty conditions again.
 
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13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will die ,but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body you will live.

There's those nasty conditions again.
If you truly understood the depths of the verse you just quoted, you would understand why it is that Christians have filled Hades/graves to this very day. :sigh:
 
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Why do you call me "double-minded"?
?? I simply quoted part of the verse that has a promise and a warning. If someone does not receive the Promise, wisdom from God, what is the reason ?

The verse(s) : Does any man lack wisdom...

have you not read it ?

From James - the Promise with the Warning together, as is often in Scripture:
5 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him. 6 But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind. 7 For that person must not suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; 8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.
 
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Why do you call me "double-minded"? To do so, I would need to believe in damnation, annihilation and universal reconciliation, or a combination. My doubts are gone, and I have stepped into the light.
No, you have mistaken what double-mindedness is. That is not a surprise though, nor is it unexpected.
Everyone in heresy believes they have "stepped into the light", so that is not a valid verification at all.
 
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