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I never said it was 37%.
But either way, it's not the "overwhelming majority of Americans" we keep hearing about from the MSM.
True. The left wants people to believe that there is an overwhelming majority who want Trump impeached because the don't want the cat out of the bag. Heaven forbid they actually do some honest reporting.
 
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Yeah, he was earning that $50 K a year at age 2. A real prodigy.

The lengths his supporters go to excuse his blatant lies continues to fascinate me.

Not to mention the strawman arguments his haters will come up with.
 
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Under the Constitution, the House can impeach Trump for anything whatever they can get a majority of Representatives to agree on. They could impeach him because they don't like his haircut if they wanted. Whether they will impeach him is, of course, another question.

Tell me you are joking. It must be a "high crime or misdemeanor" and some specific crimes are listed in a section of the Constitution.

The only way Donald Trump does NOT get impeached is the House of Representatives finds no evidence - which is highly unlikely.
 
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True. The left wants people to believe that there is an overwhelming majority who want Trump impeached because the don't want the cat out of the bag. Heaven forbid they actually do some honest reporting.

The House of Representatives is letting the cat out of the bag. Reputblicans are the ones refusing to do it.
 
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Now know!! Trumpets are reaction like they ha

How many times do you think Trump has lied?

I see you're rather new here with just a little over 15,000 posts, but you should know that it's against the rules of the site to use terms such as "Trumpets" to label people. It's known as goading.
 
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Tell me you are joking. It must be a "high crime or misdemeanor" and some specific crimes are listed in a section of the Constitution.

The only way Donald Trump does NOT get impeached is the House of Representatives finds no evidence - which is highly unlikely.
Yes. Treason, bribery or other "high crimes and misdemeanors" The House has full authority to define what a "high crime" is and it need not be a violation of any existing law.
 
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Err no. The Democrats will impeach Trump, and then the Senate Republicans will likely acquit him. The odds on him not being impeached are vanishingly small.

Then the entire impeachment process is just a political stunt. One of many political stunts. So what will the democrats do next after the Senate doesn't vote against him? They'll have nearly a year to figure out which stunt to try next, and it will need to be pretty desperate since it will most likely be their last chance before the election.
 
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Where did you get this silly idea from? A Democrat did beat Trump in the November 2016 election. It was only because of our stupid electoral college system that he is in the White House. More voters wanted the Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton, to be President. That is a fact.

Since Day 1 everyone has known Trump interfered with the election process by soliciting help from Russia and getting it.

And ever since the day the Mueller report was released, everyone who has read it has known that this was debunked. However, some people just won't accept that and want to keep bringing the conspiracy theory back to life. It's time to just let it go.
 
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I think you are a little bit behind the times. "Russian collusion" was the Democrat battle cry last year. Then it was obstruction. Then it was tax returns and a few other things that came and went. Now it is quid pro quo but that is quickly fading off because Democrats are realizing that they have nothing to work with. But I digress. The point is that your statement "every one has known Trump interfered with the election" only proves how small your bubble is and how much you are really disconnected with the vast majority of Americans.

Obstruction of justice occured when Donald Trump fired James Comey, who was investigating him for the Russian cullusion scandal at the time. A majority of voters agreed in polls Trump obstructed justice. Also, law school professors and private lawyers agreed if Trump obstructed justice, it was an impeachable act - and that he did exactly that. So everyone who was closely paying attention knew why Trump fired Comey even before the nationally-televised testimony under oath.
 
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Under the Constitution, the House can impeach Trump for anything whatever they can get a majority of Representatives to agree on. They could impeach him because they don't like his haircut if they wanted. Whether they will impeach him is, of course, another question.

Further proof that an impeachment by the House would be meaningless.
 
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Then the entire impeachment process is just a political stunt. One of many political stunts. So what will the Democrats do next after the Senate doesn't vote against him? They'll have nearly a year to figure out which stunt to try next, and it will need to be pretty desperate since it will most likely be their last chance before the election.

The impeachment process is in the Constitution - far from a political stunt. Also remember Nancy Pelosi is doing it despite previously insisting the desire to impeach Donald Trump must be bipartisan.

Democrats will not need a full year to figure out what to do next. They will win the election because there is no reason for the loser of the last popular vote, who got a lot of "against the opponent" votes, to win in 2020.
 
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Further proof that an impeachment by the House would be meaningless.

There is plenty of proof the House vote will be very meaningful. Donald Trump clearly committed crimes - and Democrats have evidence of them.
 
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There is plenty of proof the House vote will be very meaningful. Donald Trump clearly committed crimes - and Democrats have evidence of them.

Which "crime" has he been convicted of? Zero.
That's why the democrats will have to simply vote "aye" on impeachment when it comes to the final vote based on party loyalty and hatred for Trump rather than on any alleged crimes.
 
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And ever since the day the Mueller report was released, everyone who has read it has known that this was debunked. However, some people just won't accept that and want to keep bringing the conspiracy theory back to life. It's time to just let it go.

He may not have engaged in criminal conspiracy, but he absolutely solicited help, and Russia absolutely obliged.

Trump said on live TV: "“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,”

Within 6 hours of that the GRU launched their first attack on the DNC servers.
 
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The impeachment process is in the Constitution - far from a political stunt. Also remember Nancy Pelosi is doing it despite previously insisting the desire to impeach Donald Trump must be bipartisan.

As the vote clearly ended up not being. All Republicans voted no, and all but 2 dems voted yes. That doesn't sound very bipartisan.
Pelosi caved to people like Cortez and the rest of the "squad", which shows the direction the democrat party is going.

Democrats will not need a full year to figure out what to do next. They will win the election because there is no reason for the loser of the last popular vote, who got a lot of "against the opponent" votes, to win in 2020.

Clinton isn't even in the running this time, so there's no way she could lose.
 
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He may not have engaged in criminal conspiracy, but he absolutely solicited help, and Russia absolutely obliged.

Trump said on live TV: "“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,”

Within 6 hours of that the GRU launched their first attack on the DNC servers.

Oh sure! And China is now investigating Biden, right? Just because he made an offhand comment to the Press about it?
 
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Not to mention the strawman arguments his haters will come up with.

Well, in this discussion, you've made excuses for one of his lies, and I haven't put forth a strawman argument, so for those keeping score:

defense of Trump's lies lies: 1
strawman arguments: 0
 
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Oh sure! And China is now investigating Biden, right? Just because he made an offhand comment to the Press about it?

That's quite a leap you've taken.

I simply pointed out the facts. Trump asked Russia for help on live TV, and Russia responded with hacking into the DNC servers.
 
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