70% of Millennials say they are likely to vote socialist

dogs4thewin said:

If someone has more skills that the employer needs does that not benefit them in the long run?

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Who says that the employer needs those skills?

dogs4thewin said:

If someone has more skills that the employer needs does that not benefit them in the long run?

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Only if the employer pays them more now. Otherwise the employer just paid to make an employee more attractive to other employers who will pay more for those skills.

ArmenianJohn said:

You're wrong. This isn't 1987 anymore. Or even 1993. Please tell me what the benefit to the employer is to pay for someone's school - this I gotta hear.

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It does still happen - an old acquaintance of mine was hired on the contingency that she finish her Masters (and the company paid for it). In exchange, she had to sign a contract that she would work for them for five years. However, it's becoming less and less common.

dogs4thewin said:

If someone has more skills that the employer needs does that not benefit them in the long run?

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Only if they stay with the employer long enough to justify the expense. It's becoming less and less common to stay in a job for more than 3-5 years, because companies don't give raises. I've been in my current job for 4 years, and the only raise I've gotten short of 2-3% cost-of-living increases was when the Obama administration passed a law that said that salaried employees under a certain threshold would be eligible for overtime pay - a month later, my annual salary was a couple hundred dollars over that threshold.

dogs4thewin said:

yes, but who is saying that everyone who does well takes stuff by force?

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Look at the shrinking size and quality of products over the years. When profits can no longer keep up with the financial demands of investors, profits are made by gain at the expense of others.

dogs4thewin said:

I will admit it has been a decade since I went looking for scholarships, but at the time I had to sort through what seemed like 100s or 1000s of scholarships tells me there are quite a few of them out there. Many schools offer them, as well.

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Back in the 90s, there was a young woman who put herself completely through college on scholarships.

In order to do that, she had to make a serious part-time job out of scholarship hunting and scholarship requesting. She actually spent 20 hours a week tracking down all kinds of scholarships and applying for them.

She also sat down with big-city telephone books and systematically went through the Yellow Pages inquiring of businesses large and small whether they offered scholarships. She educated them on the tax benefits of doing so, then laid out her own educational plans, provided her vita letter, and requested a scholarship for herself.

And she did get scholarships. Fifty dollars here, 25 dollars there, maybe a hundred dollars now and then. It added up.

In subsequent years, she not only solicited new businesses but also re-contacted those that had provided scholarships before, updating them on her scholastic progress...and requesting another scholarship.

Eventually, she got through college debt free. But make no mistake, she had seriously made a job out of scholarship application.

Interestingly, she got hired quickly by a non-profit organization right after college...writing grant requests.

But my point here is that "what seemed like 100s or 1000s of scholarships" is mostly nickels and dimes. It takes a very consistent, serious, no-nonsense effort to get a college degree out of them, and the odds of failure and being forced out of school when the money runs dry is a constant pressure.

dogs4thewin said:

If someone has more skills that the employer needs does that not benefit them in the long run?

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No. Why do you think it should?

That's why employers prefer not to higher overqualified employees.

Pretty sure that the majority of Millennial are not full blown socialist but rather social democratic.

RocksInMyHead said:

It does still happen - an old acquaintance of mine was hired on the contingency that she finish her Masters (and the company paid for it). In exchange, she had to sign a contract that she would work for them for five years. However, it's becoming less and less common.


Only if they stay with the employer long enough to justify the expense. It's becoming less and less common to stay in a job for more than 3-5 years, because companies don't give raises. I've been in my current job for 4 years, and the only raise I've gotten short of 2-3% cost-of-living increases was when the Obama administration passed a law that said that salaried employees under a certain threshold would be eligible for overtime pay - a month later, my annual salary was a couple hundred dollars over that threshold.

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I was going to mention this too but yes that’s correct. But even this is now very rare due to the high cost of college. When tuition was $2,000 a semester instead of $20,000 a semester it was a much more common benefit with far less commitment required by the employer.

So yes it still happens but much more rarely and only with a huge commitment and liability. And it’s almost always now for people already in high paying jobs.

timothyu said:

It all boils down to whether ones want to share or not. Same choice God offered.

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No one is saying we shouldn't share.

RDKirk said:

That would be a worthwhile discussion for a Christian to propose, if Christians were doing what scripture tells us to do and at least making sure all Christians are getting their needs met.

The Body of Christ worldwide has all the resources necessary to make sure every Christian in the world has all his basic needs met. But when Christians let even other Christians starve, "it boils down to whether one should be forced to share by an evil atheistic left-wing government" is a hollow, despicable argument.

The truth is that Christians know what scripture tells us what to do.

We just don't want to do it.

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I patently disagree. Christians want to share and do. By the boatloads. Christians don't "let" people starve. When we see a need we give. Over and over again. Christians are the most generous people on the planet.

RDKirk said:

Did you know that free enterprise was permitted in the Soviet Union? But capitalism was not.

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And that was only one of the failures if communism.

timothyu said:

How do any model the Kingdom (governance) of God? How do we set the example?

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By giving generously when we can and when we see a need.

rjs330 said:

Yes it is. Government controls all. Please read the socialist America website and their beliefs. Government will be in control

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Which website is that, exactly, and what exactly do they say that suggests to you that their aim is government control of everything?

rjs330 said:

I patently disagree. Christians want to share and do. By the boatloads. Christians don't "let" people starve. When we see a need we give. Over and over again. Christians are the most generous people on the planet.

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So why are there Christians starving? Don't pretend that the need is not known or knowable.

rjs330 said:

Christians are the most generous people on the planet.

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rjs330 said:

By giving generously when we can and when we see a need.

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So there are non-ailment specific free Christian medical clinics set up all over the US? Or do they promote finding a Christian insurance provider to keep in step with the system?

timothyu said:

Why should people be allowed to profit (not the same as make a decent wage) on fundamental rights like health and education? Where to we draw the line on parasites? Can't we be satisfied with lawyers and financial mangers without adding to the list?

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What about food. Should grocery stores be able to profit on food? How about housing. It's a fundamental right to have a roof over your head for you and your family. Should people be able to profit on housing? What about cars? Should people be able to profit on cars? In most states there are rural people who wouldn't be able to go to work without cars to be able to earn a living for their families.

timothyu said:

Ask the oppressed.

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Who's oppressed?

timothyu said:

I have no problem with everyone having the same access to healthcare or an education that I had without some parasite looking for a way to financially profit off of either.

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Do you have a problem with doctors going into the field they want to?

All Englands Skies said:

Capitalism is the worst, the ideology that suits the human's selfish mindset more than any other.

It works because it feeds the humans natural selfish, power mad and boastful instincts, not due to any noble notions in its ideals.

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It feeds the human desire to be free. To work hard and enjoy the fruits of their labor. To provide for their family.