Purgatory: A primer

Bob Crowley

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I believe in Purgatory, and like CS Lewis think it's common sense. Otherwise (to use an extreme case) you have the situation of a serial killer, or someone like Adolf Hitler, loaded with bad, cruel and evil habits, making a sincere deathbed confession and then just waltzing into the absolute holiness of heaven, without so much as a "by your leave".

He'd need a bit of cleaning up first.

And of course there is St. Paul's comment about someone escaping "through the flames". There's a sense of someone being heavily singed, like standing too close to a bonfire.

What I do have difficulty with is the business of the souls in Purgatory needing our prayers. For one thing, if someone has been dead for 100 years, and they're still in Purgatory, who is even going to know they're there?

It's one thing to pray for someone you know eg. a friend who died recently, but I wonder about those who are in Purgatory for a period longer than a human lifespan, and who have been forgotten by all those who knew them or knew of them.

I'd have thought the cleansing effect of God's burning fire (or love) would have a far more salutary effect than our prayers. The impression I get is that the request for our prayers shortens the time, but doesn't do the job of cleansing the "holy souls".
 
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I believe in Purgatory, and like CS Lewis think it's common sense. Otherwise (to use an extreme case) you have the situation of a serial killer, or someone like Adolf Hitler, loaded with bad, cruel and evil habits, making a sincere deathbed confession and then just waltzing into the absolute holiness of heaven, without so much as a "by your leave".

He'd need a bit of cleaning up first.

And of course there is St. Paul's comment about someone escaping "through the flames". There's a sense of someone being heavily singed, like standing too close to a bonfire.

What I do have difficulty with is the business of the souls in Purgatory needing our prayers. For one thing, if someone has been dead for 100 years, and they're still in Purgatory, who is even going to know they're there?

It's one thing to pray for someone you know eg. a friend who died recently, but I wonder about those who are in Purgatory for a period longer than a human lifespan, and who have been forgotten by all those who knew them or knew of them.

I'd have thought the cleansing effect of God's burning fire (or love) would have a far more salutary effect than our prayers. The impression I get is that the request for our prayers shortens the time, but doesn't do the job of cleansing the "holy souls".

well they do not “need” our prayers as in everyone in purgatory will eventually be in heaven

Prayers always help any situation, purgatory is no different
 
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well they do not “need” our prayers as in everyone in purgatory will eventually be in heaven

Prayers always help any situation, purgatory is no different

I've always (at least as a catholic) tended to believe that praying for the dead mainly helps us in our own piety. Besides it's worth reflecting on the immortal lovebonds between ourself and our deceased loves ones who transcend the limits of death. Through the love of Christ our mediator we're still connected with them in love.

Faith and hope will perish in the kingdom to come, but our love for one another in Christ our Lord will prevail. The love, true love will never fade away nor will it perish. In Christ both worlds are interconnected through mutual prayer.

The church is a praying body in its essence. The saints are praying for us, we are praying for our loved ones in purgatory and perhaps even the souls in purgatory prayer for us living on earth.

This is the most visual sign of Christ as redeemer and bridge between the past, present and future.
Everyone is summed up in Christ.
 
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Catholics believe in the Communion of Saints. Prayers for anyone serve a purpose. There is evidence that prayers for the souls in Purgatory does indeed shorten their time. Rosaries and masses are the most powerful.
 
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