Socialism in America will usher in a One-World Government:

timothyu said:

Why not?

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They don't have the power to force the entire world into one government. Frankly, they don't even want that. These guys make money lending money to nations and hedge their bets by lending to risky and less risky nations. With one government, they risk default with no clear way to hedge their bets.

timothyu said:

There is the kingdom (governance) of God and the governance of man. The divide is clear and one does not overlap the other.

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The Kingdom of God absolutely overlaps with the governance of man. Who do you think gives authority to govern to the state? Who do you think puts people into positions of governance? It's God.

Redwingfan9 said:

They don't have the power to force the entire world into one government. Frankly, they don't even want that. These guys make money lending money to nations and hedge their bets by lending to risky and less risky nations. With one government, they risk default with no clear way to hedge their bets.

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You are thinking government on a term below their concept but common to us and 'money lenders' also on a lower level than their higher ups.. No nation is above the rule of the money lenders and financial institutions are but minions.. All nations pay for the right to print currency. And now with digital banking the power to buy and sell can be shut off with the flick of a switch. Barter is the only currency they do not control and a good reason it is often made unlawful through tax laws.

Redwingfan9 said:

The Kingdom of God absolutely overlaps with the governance of man. Who do you think gives authority to govern to the state? Who do you think puts people into positions of governance? It's God.

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Sure, to act in ways opposite to the Kingdom. lol God's prophets haven't appointed kings in millennia. Jesus said not to rebel against them but live in the ways of the Kingdom of God instead (which runs contrary to the traditional ways of man) Let the secular rule the secular while the governance of God rules His follower's lives.

timothyu said:

You are thinking government on a term below their concept but common to us and 'money lenders' also on a lower level than their higher ups.. No nation is above the rule of the money lenders and financial institutions are but minions.. All nations pay for the right to print currency. And now with digital banking the power to buy and sell can be shut off with the flick of a switch. Barter is the only currency they do not control and a good reason it is often made unlawful through tax laws.

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You have a much higher view of banks than you should. When the US ultimately defaults, which is coming, there will be a lot of banks that go bankrupt.

Redwingfan9 said:

You have a much higher view of banks than you should. When the US ultimately defaults, which is coming, there will be a lot of banks that go bankrupt.

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Who are those banks beholden to? Not the country. Think of currency as being patented. Who holds the patent and licenses out the use of that currency to all?

Basil the Great said:

Well, the one-world government fear has been tossed around now for a few decades. While it is true that the European Union is perhaps a stepping stone toward a one-world government, it seems very unlikely that we will see a real one-world government within the lifetime of anyone on C.F. Could it happen by 2150 or 2200? I suppose it is possible, but if it were to ever happen, I suspect that it would take a few hundred years or more.

Welcome to C.F. by the way and I hope that you enjoy your time here.

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One world government, is against what God has decreed. Tower of Babel type of stuff. And we dont have a one world government yet, but when we do, you can be certain Satan who is the prince of this world will rule over it.

Jesus mentions Satan as the ruler of this world who cares not for God but for the things of men.

Matthew 16:23 But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.”

John 14:29-31 New King James Version (NKJV)
29 “And now I have told you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe. 30 I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming, and he has nothing in Me. 31 But that the world may know that I love the Father, and as the Father gave Me commandment, so I do. Arise, let us go from here.

sdowney717 said:

One world government, is against what God has decreed. Tower of Babel type of stuff. And we dont have a one world government yet, but when we do, you can be certain Satan who is the prince of this world will rule over it.

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Satan is bound, he has no power to overthrow God's will concerning the nations.

Redwingfan9 said:

Satan is bound

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You didn't get the memo?

Redwingfan9 said:

Satan is bound, he has no power to overthrow God's will concerning the nations.

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Listen, the future, whatever happens, is God's will. and Satan will play his part in that.

timothyu said:

You didn't get the memo?

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Rev 20 is clear

Redwingfan9 said:

Rev 20 is clear

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So we are in the thousand year age?

timothyu said:

So we are in the thousand year age?

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Absolutely

Redwingfan9 said:

Absolutely

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Where's Jesus? The White House?

Redwingfan9 said:

The notion that Christ was coming from the modern left is absurd. Jesus never taught salvation by government, he never demanded that the state provide people with anything and he never provided them with such power. He upheld private work contracts.

I don't like putting modern political designations on Jesus. He stood for God's law, not the wicked law created by man. I don't know that this puts him on the modern right but it doesn't put him on the left.

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I guess we have not met.
I claim the opposing view.
So far..except for Romans 13 ..no rebuttal.

Exodus 22:28
1 Peter 2:13-17
2 Peter 2:10
Titus 3
1 Timothy 2
Psalms 22:28
Daniel 2:20-21
Romans 13:7
Deuteronomy 16:18-20
Revelation 1
Romans 13:4
Proverbs 21
John 19:11
Mark 3:24
Proverbs 29
Proverbs 8:15
Psalms 94:20
Deuteronomy 28
Daniel 2:21
John 19:10-11
Jude 1:8
Colossians 1:15-17
Ecclesiastes 10:20
Acts 8:32
Acts 23:5
Matthew 10:38

Albion said:

Jesus sounds more like a Libertarian than anything else, and Libertarianism is normally not considered to be "from the left."

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Support for equal rights is centrist?

wretched said:

If you pay attention closely to the left's narratives it appears that the globalist's owned media's goal is to remove national sovereignty from the public's mindset plain and simple.

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I never heard of that before.

Redwingfan9 said:

Jesus never taught salvation by government, he never demanded that the state provide people with anything and he never provided them with such power.

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He said that His crucifixion was the will of His Father.
Really, that is of higher significance than food stamps.

John 19
11 Jesus answered him, “You would have no authority over me at all unless it had been given you from above.

timothyu said:

Why not?

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The rich are not elected that much.

SkyWriting said:

The rich are not elected that much.

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You are thinking too low down the economic ladder. It's not about who is rich but who owns the money that they use to call themselves rich. That goes for countries to. It's not who has amassed the legal tender but who the legal tender belongs to that they use. Money is leased. Yet we rarely hear about the mammon gods.