Jesus is Israel. How so?

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Jesus is Israel.

“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.” Galatians 3:16 (KJV 1900)

Moses and Paul called Abraham’s seed both Hebrews and Israel. So Abraham's seed (Jesus) is Israel.

“Now there was no smith found throughout all the land of Israel: for the Philistines said, Lest the Hebrews make them swords or spears:” (1 Samuel 13:19)


“Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;” (Philippians 3:5)


“And they shall hearken to thy voice: and thou shalt come, thou and the elders of Israel, unto the king of Egypt, and ye shall say unto him, The Lord God of the Hebrews hath met with us: and now let us go, we beseech thee, three days’ journey into the wilderness, that we may sacrifice to the Lord our God.” (Exodus 3:18)


“Then said the princes of the Philistines, What do these Hebrews here? And Achish said unto the princes of the Philistines, Is not this David, the servant of Saul the king of Israel, which hath been with me these days, or these years, and I have found no fault in him since he fell unto me unto this day?” (1 Samuel 29:3)


“Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they the seed of Abraham? So am I.” (2 Corinthians 11:22)

Therefore Jesus IS Israel, Abraham’s Seed (Singular Galatians 3:16) along with believers. “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.Galatians 3:29 (KJV 1900) This means believers are Israel too.

“For all the promises of God in him [Jesus] are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.” 2 Corinthians 1:20 (KJV 1900)

Matthew reiterates this when he quotes Hosea;

When Israel was a child, then I loved him, And called my son out of Egypt.” (Hosea 11:1)

“And [Jesus] was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.” (Matthew 2:15)

The Church of Believers are called by God's name - Israel.

If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.” 2 Chronicles 7:14 (KJV 1900)
 

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Genesis 32:28
He said, “Your name shall no longer be Jacob, but Israel; for you have striven with God and with men and have prevailed.”

The name Israel means "to strive with God." How can God strive with God?
 
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Genesis 32:28
He said, “Your name shall no longer be Jacob, but Israel; for you have striven with God and with men and have prevailed.”

The name Israel means "to strive with God." How can God strive with God?
Don't we all strive with God? Did Jesus strive with God surrendering to his will?

“And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully.” 2 Timothy 2:5 (KJV 1900)

“And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.” Genesis 32:28 (KJV 1900)
 
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How about Jesus the man saying "not my will but thine?"
He did that as an example for us. How we are to respond to difficult things.
 
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Do you think going to the cross didn't cause a deep seated striving with the Father?
If it did, then our Lord was lying when He said "The Father and I are one." John 10:30
 
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You need to study the trinity. It will clear things right up.
I understand the difference between echad and yachad.

The Trinity is explained in this verse:

Deuteronomy 6:4
“Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God, the Lord is one!

or in the original:
Sh'ma Yisrael, Adonai Elohenu Adonai echad.
 
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I understand the difference between echad and yachad.

The Trinity is explained in this verse:

Deuteronomy 6:4
“Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God, the Lord is one!

or in the original:
Sh'ma Yisrael, Adonai Elohenu Adonai echad.
You cannot understand the OT apart from the NT.
 
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You cannot understand the OT apart from the NT.
God gave them in the other order, meaning you cannot understand the NT apart from the backdrop of the OT.
 
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God gave them in the other order, meaning you cannot understand the NT apart from the backdrop of the OT.


“But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.” 2 Corinthians 3:14 (KJV 1900)
 
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Jesus is Israel. How so?
Jesus is Israel.

The Church of Believers are called by God's name - Israel.


If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.” 2 Chronicles 7:14 (KJV 1900)
The Christian Church is the body of Christ, so in essence, Christians of the faith of Jesus can be called the Israel of God/Jesus I would think.

There is an interesting discussion on another thread concerning the "Israel of God":

THE TRUE "REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY/SUPERSESSIONISM" OF THE BIBLE

What/who is "the Israel of God"?

G.K. Beale - Peace and Mercy Upon the Israel of God: Partial Preterist Section @ PreteristArchive.com, The Internet's Only Balanced Look at Preterism and Preterist Eschatology

Peace and Mercy Upon the Israel of God: The Old Testament Background in Galatians 6:161
By G.K. Beale
Biblica 80 (1999) 204-223

Discussions of the Old Testament background of "new creation" in Gal 6,15 and its relation to v. 16 have heretofore been general and have not targeted any particular OT passage. This essay sets out to demonstrate that the phrase "peace and mercy" has its most probable background in the Old Testament promise of Israel’s restoration in Isaiah 54. In the light of this background the mention of the "marks" of Jesus on Paul’s body in v. 17 makes excellent sense.

from exile: "Lovingkindness and truth have met together, and righteousness and peace have kissed each other" (Ps 84,10).

Outside of Isa 54,10 e!leoj ("mercy") and ei)rh/nh, ("peace") occur in close combination (within a seven-word range) in the LXX only in Ps 84,11 (= MT 85,11)15 and Tobit 7,12 (the latter occurring in only one version of the LXX in an insignificant context which refers to a personal wish of blessing bestowed on one person to another)16. Outside of these passages, the combination does not occur elsewhere (in an eight-word range) until the use in Galatians and in subsequent early Christian literature of the early church fathers17. This evidence shows that the combination of "mercy and peace" was not a typical part of formulaic benedictions in early Judaism nor a part of typical conclusions in early Hellenistic epistolary literature.

The occurrence in the LXX of Ps 84,11 is a literal rendering of the Hebrew given above, yet the combination of e!leoj and ei)rh/nh also occurs only two verses earlier in vv. 8-9 in almost the same close proximity: "Show us your mercy (e!leoj) and give to us your salvation. Hear what the Lord God will speak through me: he will speak peace (ei)rh/nh) upon his people and upon his saints, and upon those who turn their heart toward him". Interestingly, the promised condition of the peace and mercy of restoration is also referred to as an "enlivening" ("you will turn and you will enliven [zww/seij]

I. Peace and Mercy in Galatians 6,16b and New Creation in Isaiah 54 and other OT texts

Verse 16b explains the blessing upon those who line up their lives according to the elemental, ethical rule of the new creation: "peace and mercy be upon them and (or "even") upon the Israel of God". Though the dominant notion of this "peace and mercy" pertains to God’s blessing upon people, it probably has overtones of the effect of that blessing: the ethical demeanor of striving for unity among those who live in the new creation. This is a positive way of saying that they are not people who have become "boastful ones, ones challenging one another, envying one another" (5,26).

This last expression of v. 16 has undergone explosive debate. Some understand "the Israel of God" to be a further definition of the preceding "them", so that the entire Galatian church, Jewish and Gentile believers together, are referred to as true Israel. Grammatically, this view is certainly possible, since the kai/ can be rendered as appositional or explicative: "even", "that is", or "namely"2, with the resulting translation: "peace and mercy be upon them, that is, upon the Israel of God" (so RSV, New Living

SUMMARY

This essay has contended that Paul’s reference to "new creation" and the pronouncement of "peace and mercy" on the readers in Gal 6,15-16 is best understood against the background of Isa 54,10 and the surrounding context of similar new creation themes elsewhere in Isa 32–66, which are echoed also earlier in Galatians, especially in 5,22-26. The analysis confirms those prior studies which have concluded that "the Israel of God" refers to all Christians in Galatia, whether Jewish or Christian. Lastly, the demonstration of an Isaianic background for the concept of new creation in Gal 6,15-16 falls in line with Paul’s other reference to "new creation" in 2 Cor 5,17 and John’s allusion to new creation in Rev 3,14, where Isa 43 and 65–66 stand behind both passages. Isa 54,10 was likely not the sole influence on Gal 6,16, but such texts as Psalm 84 (LXX), the Qumran Hymn Scroll (1QH 13,5), and Jub 22,9 may have formed a collective impression on Paul, with the Isaiah text most in focus; alternatively, the texts in Qumran and Jubilees may be mere examples of a similar use of Isaiah 54 on a parallel trajectory with that of Paul’s in Galatians 6.
Galatians 6:14-16 But far be it from me to boast, save in the Cross of our Lord Jesus Christ…….all that counts is new [personal] creation. All who take this principal as their guide: peace and mercy be upon them, the Israel of God. Revised English Bible

The proper interpretation and translation of the last phrase in Galatians 6:16 has become a matter of controversy in the past century or so. Formerly, "The Israel of God" was understood as a name for the Church. The καὶ ("and") which precedes the phrase upon the Israel of God, was understood as an explicative καὶ. This understanding of the grammar is reflected in the Revised Standard Version's Peace and mercy be upon all who walk by this rule, upon the Israel of God, and in the New International Version's: even to the Israel of God. It is not necessary, to understand the καὶ as an explicative in order to get substantially the same sense. If it be regarded as an ordinary connective καὶ, the all who take this principal, correctly refers to the individual Christians, Jewish and Gentile, and Israel of God to the same Christians, regarded collectively; being the entire messianic community."

So the rendering "and upon the Israel of God" (KJV and others) is acceptable enough, provided it is not misapplied. In any case, it is clear that in this verse Paul cannot be pronouncing a benediction upon persons who are not included in: All who keep the Christian rule….The entire argument of the epistle contradicts any idea that here in 6:16 he would give a blessing to those who are not Christians.

The phrase has become controversial because the traditional interpretation conflicts with principles of interpretation associated with Dispensationalism. Dispensationalists, those who believe in a ‘rapture to heaven’, insist on maintaining a sharp distinction between "Israel" and "the Church".

They refute the idea that here Paul is using the phrase "Israel of God" in a sense that includes Gentiles, because this undermines their contention that "the Church" is distinguished from "Israel" in Scripture. This major tenet of dispensationalist hermeneutics, is a false teaching.

The dispensationalist explanation of the meaning of "The Israel of God" in Galatians 6:16 is contrary to Paul’s main point, in which it is said that: in Christ Jesus ... there is neither Jew nor Greek. This central idea of the epistle, is expressed in the third chapter: "you are all one in Christ Jesus ... if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring" Galatians 3:26-29

The fascination with the secular state of Israel which is so characteristic of dispensationalists today has led many of them to think that the restoration of the Jews as "God's people" has already occurred, despite the fact that their rapture has not yet happened and the Jews continue to reject Christ. Dispensationalists insist that this unbelieving Israel according to the flesh must be blessed by everyone. But of course this premise is totally wrong, because there is no blessing for anyone who rejects Christ.

The attempt to limit the meaning of "Israel of God" to the carnal sons of Judah betrays a fundamentally wrong approach to biblical interpretation, and to New Testament theology in particular. I give below some excerpts from writers who are more accurately express the meaning of Galatians 6:16. Even in these authors I find, however, an insufficient appreciation of Paul's teaching. Peace be ... upon the Israel of God, is a positive blessing and affirmation of true Christian believers as the spiritual Israel of God.
 
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Genesis 32:28
He said, “Your name shall no longer be Jacob, but Israel; for you have striven with God and with men and have prevailed.”

The name Israel means "to strive with God." How can God strive with God?

Believers are Gods Israel (believers who strive with God)
 
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Believers are Gods Israel (believers who strive with God)
Gentile believers are grafted into Israel (Rom 11) and are elsewhere called the "Commonwealth of Israel."

Ephesians 2:12
remember that you were at that time separate from Christ, excluded from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.
 
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Jesus is Israel.

“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.” Galatians 3:16 (KJV 1900)

Moses and Paul called Abraham’s seed both Hebrews and Israel. So Abraham's seed (Jesus) is Israel.

“Now there was no smith found throughout all the land of Israel: for the Philistines said, Lest the Hebrews make them swords or spears:” (1 Samuel 13:19)


“Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;” (Philippians 3:5)


“And they shall hearken to thy voice: and thou shalt come, thou and the elders of Israel, unto the king of Egypt, and ye shall say unto him, The Lord God of the Hebrews hath met with us: and now let us go, we beseech thee, three days’ journey into the wilderness, that we may sacrifice to the Lord our God.” (Exodus 3:18)


“Then said the princes of the Philistines, What do these Hebrews here? And Achish said unto the princes of the Philistines, Is not this David, the servant of Saul the king of Israel, which hath been with me these days, or these years, and I have found no fault in him since he fell unto me unto this day?” (1 Samuel 29:3)


“Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they the seed of Abraham? So am I.” (2 Corinthians 11:22)

Therefore Jesus IS Israel, Abraham’s Seed (Singular Galatians 3:16) along with believers. “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.Galatians 3:29 (KJV 1900) This means believers are Israel too.

“For all the promises of God in him [Jesus] are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.” 2 Corinthians 1:20 (KJV 1900)

Matthew reiterates this when he quotes Hosea;

When Israel was a child, then I loved him, And called my son out of Egypt.” (Hosea 11:1)

“And [Jesus] was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.” (Matthew 2:15)

The Church of Believers are called by God's name - Israel.

If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.” 2 Chronicles 7:14 (KJV 1900)

So you believe the church is rejected and blinded in part?

From Romans 11:

7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded. The church is Israel!

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Israel (church) has fallen- so who are the gentiles?

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel (church), until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

So according to you- The church is enemies for the gentiles sake!

Good to know!!!!
 
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Jesus is Israel.
So you believe the church is rejected and blinded in part?
Well, if he insists Jesus is Israel, I guess that means he believes HIM to be rejected and blind.

And an enemy of the gospel.

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies
 
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Jesus is Israel.
The Church of Believers are called by God's name - Israel.

If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.” 2 Chronicles 7:14 (KJV 1900)
Believers are Gods Israel (believers who strive with God)
Good post.

Gotta strive for that Crown.........

2Co 13:11 Finally, brothers and sisters, rejoice! Strive for full restoration, encourage one another, be of one mind, live in peace. And the God of love and peace will be with you

James 1:12
Blessed is the man enduring trial<3986>, for when he has been approved, he will receive the Crown of the Life which the Lord promises to those who love Him.

Revelation 2:10 "tribulation 10 days"


Revelation 2:10 No yet thou be fearing! which-things thou are being about to be suffering
Behold! the Devil is being about to be casting ye into a prison, that ye may be being tried<3985>.
And ye shall be having Tribulation ten days,
Be thou becoming faithful until death! and I shall be giving to thee the Crown of the Life.


3985. peirazo pi-rad'-zo from 3984; 1. to try whether a thing can be done; to attempt, endeavor: with an infinitive, Acts 9:26 L T Tr WH; Acts 16:7; 24:6.
2. to try, make trial of, test: τινα, for the purpose of ascertaining his quality, or what he thinks, or how he will behave himself;

crown-of-life.jpg
 
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