Heaven and Earth passing away - what does this mean?

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That topic has recently come up in another thread and it really is its own thread.

When we read these passages - is this the literal earth and literal heaven......or does it mean something else:

Matthew 5:18 ~ For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away.

Luke 16:17
But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for a single stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law.


......and this question was also asked:
2 Peter 3:7,
But by the same word, the heavens and the earth that now exist are being reserved for fire, kept for the Day of Judgment and destruction of the ungodly. (MEV)

...that scripture is talking about the destruction of Israel? (can't believe I'm asking this)

Okay.

Then verse 10,

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat. The earth also and the works that are in it will be burned up. (MEV)

So Israel will pass away with a loud noise?

Amazing!

So...what are the "elements" of Israel?

I'd like to know; seeing as they'll be consumed by intense heat.
 

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"Heaven and Earth" has been used in scripture to describe the city of Jerusalem (I remember quoting it in one of those sabbath threads in support of my view that Christians are not under the law but under grace), the place where "heaven met earth" being the Temple in Jerusalem. Since the Temple was destroyed in 70AD, many believe that "heaven and earth" did indeed pass away at that time.
 
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There are two heavens easily confused.

First the eternal heaven that is timeless where God dwells.

Second the created heavens which are to get a complete makeover as will the earth.
 
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There are two heavens easily confused.

First the eternal heaven that is timeless where God dwells.

Second the created heavens which are to get a complete makeover as will the earth.
Based on.......?
 
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"Heaven and Earth" has been used in scripture to describe the city of Jerusalem (I remember quoting it in one of those sabbath threads in support of my view that Christians are not under the law but under grace), the place where "heaven met earth" being the Temple in Jerusalem. Since the Temple was destroyed in 70AD, many believe that "heaven and earth" did indeed pass away at that time.

Heaven and Earth passing away - what does this mean?

The Bible consistently warns us that this world will not last forever.

“Heaven and earth will pass away,” Jesus said in Matthew 24:35. His statement was in the context of end times’ prophecies and the eternal nature of Jesus’ words: “My words will never pass away.”

Jesus also refers to the passing away of heaven and earth in Matthew 5:18.

In Revelation 21:1, John writes of a new heaven and a new earth in the eternal state, having seen that “the first heaven and the first earth had passed away” Isaiah 65:17 and 2 Peter 3:13 ). To “pass away” is to disappear or be no more. This refers to the physical heaven and earth—the material world and all it contains
 
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The first heaven consists of the Earth’s atmosphere. The second heaven is the vast reaches of space beyond the atmosphere.

There is also a third heaven: the home of God. The Apostle Paul saw this “third heaven,” where God’s throne is, in a vision (ii Cor. 12:1-2).

In Heb. 4:14, the phrase “into the heavens,” should be translated “through the heavens.” We see that Jesus Christ passed through the first two heavens—Earth’s atmosphere and outer space—as He ascended to the third heaven.
 
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That topic has recently come up in another thread and it really is its own thread.

When we read these passages - is this the literal earth and literal heaven......or does it mean something else:
I believe it is a Covenantle change.
Under the OC Law of Moses it was death, grave and hades.
Under the NC of Jesus it is grace, life, heaven.

Jesus literally came to a land of the hopeless "walking dead", as shown in these passages.......
The OC Temple and Priesthood/Heaven and Land were just not cutting it.
That was resolved at the Cross then in 70AD

Mat 4:16
The people who sat in darkness have seen a great light,
And upon those who sat in the region and shadow of death
Light has dawned.”

Luk 1:79
To give light to those who sit in darkness and the shadow of death,
To guide our feet into the way of peace.”
Ezekiel 37:10 And I prophecy as He instructed and the spirit/breath is coming in them and they are living and are standing on their feet, an army/host, great, exceedingly-exceedingly. 11 And He is saying to me "Son of Adam! these bones are the whole house of Yisra'el they behold! ones saying ' bones of us dry, our hope perishes, we are severed to ourselves'. [Luke 2:34/ Revelaton 11:11]
Mat 8:22
But Jesus said to him, “Follow Me, and let the dead bury their own dead.”
Luk 9:60
Jesus said to him, “Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and preach the kingdom of God.
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I am trying to do a study of the Greek word for "pass away". Seems there are a few different renderings of the root word "G2064"

3928. parerchomai from 3844 and 2064; to come near or aside, i.e. to approach (arrive), go by (or away), (figuratively) perish or neglect, (causative) avert:--come (forth), go, pass (away, by, over), past, transgress.

Matthew 5:18 ~ For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away<3928>, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke's Temple/Jerusalem Discourses harmonized- Poll Thread

Mat 24:34
“Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.
Mat 24:35
“Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.

Mar 13:30
“Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.
Mar 13:31
“Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.

Luk 21:32
“Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place.
Luk 21:33
“Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.

2Pe 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.[fn]
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Used in 1 verse of Revelation [although it appears some versions use G565

Rev 21:1
Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away<3928>. Also there was no more sea.

Rev 21:4 and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the former/first things[OC Law, death/hades] have passed G565 away.” G565

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Another form of G2064

565. aperchomai from 575 and 2064; to go off (i.e. depart), aside (i.e. apart) or behind (i.e. follow), literally or figuratively:--come, depart, go (aside, away, back, out, ... ways), pass away, be past.
G565>

Rev 9:12
The first woe is past; G565 behold, two woes are still coming after these things.
Rev 10:9
So I went G565 to the angel, telling him to give me the little book. And he *said to me, “Take it and eat it; it will make your stomach bitter, but in your mouth it will be sweet as honey.”
Rev 11:14
The second woe is past; G565 behold, the third woe is coming quickly.
Rev 12:17
So the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went G565 off G565 to make war with the rest of her [fn]children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.
Rev 16:2
So the first angel went G565 and poured out his bowl [fn]on the earth; and it became a loathsome and malignant sore on the [fn]people who had the mark of the beast and who worshiped his image.
Rev 18:14
“The fruit G565 from you, and all things that were luxurious and splendid have passed away from you and men will no longer find them.

Rev 21:4
and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the former things[death and hades] have passed G565 away.” G565

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That topic has recently come up in another thread and it really is its own thread.

When we read these passages - is this the literal earth and literal heaven......or does it mean something else:

Matthew 5:18 ~ For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away.

Luke 16:17
But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for a single stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law.


......and this question was also asked:
It means the Earth and Heaven of this life will be changed when the New Heaven and New Earth are ushered in.

Rev_21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
 
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Christ was clear that no part of the law could be changed until Heaven and Earth passed and the law changed at the cross and post cross writings in scripture attest that the law not only changed but was actually fully replaced so whatever "Heaven and Earth" passing means, it took place the day Christ died else the law could not have been nailed to the cross and a new law and new covenant be in it's place. I believe Christ was speaking of a "Heaven and Earth" age or period of time that was to end and begin. So at the cross marked the end of the OT age and the start of the NT age or also called the church age.
 
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2 Peter 3:5-7 New King James Version (NKJV)
5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, 6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. 7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

As you can read, the Day of judgement is the coming Day of the Lord, and we have not had the Day of judgement yet. And we also still have many wicked, they are not all gone to hell, many walk as enemies of Christ on the earth right now.

God currently is preserving by His word, the current heavens and earth and they are to be destroyed by fire. The judgement of God on the world of Noah was that it was destroyed by water and that world is no more, our current earth was entirely reformed, it is not the same earth. Noah's world was formed out of water, and the water overwhelmed the entire earth and it was wiped out worldwide. We have not seen such a judgment of God on our current earth yet. And the coming destruction will also include the heavens.
 
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Christ was clear that no part of the law could be changed until Heaven and Earth passed and the law changed at the cross
Then the Law (which is more than ordinances) would have no effect - right? But Steven was killed using the Law. I believe - as written in Hebrews - the law was made obsolete, but would then soon disappear (and it DID - IMB - disappear in 70 A.D.).
 
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New law? Putting the will of God before our own and loving all as self ( because we are all the same) was changed?
Do you follow the OC Levitical Law of Moses?
Let's look at some verses.......

Gal 6:2
Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.
Rom 7:4
Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God.

Study on this covenantle parable/story in Luke 16 in conjunction with the covenantle book of Revelation.....

Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary

LUKE 16:26 " 'And besides all this, between us[faith/life] and ye[law/death] there is a great gulf fixed[Cross?], so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.' "
30 "And he said, 'No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.'
31 But he said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.'
"

While the significance of this seemingly pointless detail has been neglected by scholars throughout the centuries, you can be certain that it did not escape the notice of the Pharisees and scribes to which Yeshua was speaking. They thoroughly knew their history and were extremely proud of their heritage. Yeshua wanted those self-righteous Pharisees to know exactly who he was referring to with this parable.
This detail cements the identity of the rich man as the House of Judah, the Jews!
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Reve 18:16 "woe! woe! THE GREAT CITY arrayed with PURPLE AND FINE LINEN / JERUSALEM 70AD?
 
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It has to do with Christ 1st advent. Jesus fulfilled the Law for us, then offered Himself as the Passover Lamb. The Lord was simply pointing out the certainty of His mission.

Romans 8:3-4:
3 For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh,
4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
 
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