my sister teaches in the church i told her is wrong

If it is only children she is teaching, yes, you are wrong.

But if it's the church as a whole, men included, then you are absolutely right.

Either way, your zeal for truth and willingness to be corrected is refreshing. You are right in that for sure.

This is an area where Christians disagree. There are roughly 4 views:

• The Bible prohibits it. The most explicit is 1 Tim 2:16
• Church tradition prohibits it. This is the Catholic viewpoint. (There actually is some evidence for ordained women in the few few centuries.)
• The Bible permits it. Many distinguished scholars think 1 Tim 2:16 (and other passages) means something else entirely. (e.g.Women’s Service in the Church: The Biblical Basis) Wright would translate this passage differently. These people also cite examples of female leaders in the NT.
• The Bible reflects 1st Cent culture, and this particular prohibition is not binding on us.

Threads like this go for hundreds of entries. Basically, if you're from a conservative Protestant tradition you'll believe the first. If you're a Catholic you'll believe the second. Moderate Protestants believe the third. Liberal Protestants believe the last. Their differences are based on their approach to Scripture and tradition, and their willingness to accept current scholarship even when it differs from tradition.

If you and your sister fall into different categories (which I suspect is true), you're unlikely to have any argument that she'll accept.

A woman can teach young children. The only restriction was women could not teach adult men. They were also to keep silent in the church and ask their husbands at home. At the time perhaps some women may have been disrupting the meeting, the teaching of the apostles doctrines.
Paul tells the church everything must be done for edification, decently, and in good godly order.

If anyone disputes this word, and is ignorant, Paul says let him be ignorant as you cant fix a nonspiritual mind. What this means is there is no opportunity for discussion to change what Paul has said about how the church is to conduct itself.

1 Corinthians 14
26 How is it then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, let there be two or at the most three, each in turn, and let one interpret. 28 But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and let him speak to himself and to God. 29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others judge. 30 But if anything is revealed to another who sits by, let the first keep silent. 31 For you can all prophesy one by one, that all may learn and all may be encouraged. 32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.

34 Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. 35 And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.

36 Or did the word of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached? 37 If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord. 38 But if anyone is ignorant, let him be ignorant.

39 Therefore, brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak with tongues. 40 Let all things be done decently and in order.

lambofgod43985889 said:

my sister teaches to children in the church
i told her the bible says women cannot teach in the church, she laughed at me
am i wrong?

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If she is under the oversight of the pastor and elders, then she is not contravening what Paul taught. Paul accepted Philip's prophesying daughters, Aquila and Priscilla, and the Colossian lady who ran a church in her home. Thousands were saved and healed through Aimee Semple Macpherson and Kathryn Kuhlman, which never have happened if the Holy Spirit was not supporting them.

There is a danger in taking random Bible verses and making doctrines out of them. If I applied that to you, and the Scripture says that without holiness no one will see the Lord, and you are not perfectly holy, then I could say that you will never see the Lord. Get it?

lambofgod43985889 said:

my sister teaches to children in the church
i told her the bible says women cannot teach in the church, she laughed at me
am i wrong?

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Zhen said:

1) say no when one asks for protection for themselves and their families from Him/Jesus?

2) kill me and my family or send us to hell for the sins we have committed? (i abandoned God, idolized a guy, depended on astrology/tarot, hated and rebelled against God for letting me get bullied, stupidly turned His people away from Him and caused them to rebel against Him (though not my intention) when i misused God’s name and Word to condemn them and get back at them >< and didn’t do what i was told to do to bring them back to Him >< i trusted in my own efforts instead and ended up misleading them down the path of destruction by mistake ><)

i was also unmerciful at one point ><

i feel very depraved now and my spiritual state is really poor now (it gradually declined over time). i have been experiencing dark thoughts, heat, and i even heard that God would avenge one of His people mentioned above >< i then saw the words vengeance and flaming fire ><

i did a lot of things after i left God, all in a misinfluenced state. i largely didn’t know i was doing wrong. i used God’s word to scare the two people and thought no one would know. but i think God saw and has been furious with me.

i have been trying my best to change and stop sinning, but i think the consequences of my past sins mentioned above, still remain. i have sinned against God and His beloved people, caused them to sin and be misled down the path of destruction, been proud and thought i could live without God, thought the devil was god of this world (after i heard someone preach about this), and my spiritual state is in a mess. ><

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The majority of teachers in the Sunday schools are women. There is nothing wrong with that.

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lambofgod43985889 said:

my sister teaches to children in the church
i told her the bible says women cannot teach in the church, she laughed at me
am i wrong?

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My wife has taught children in churches many times over many years, it's a Godly calling. I think you are wrong.

The issue is authority. Unless she's the head pastor, or an elder, or whatever your local Church considers as the primary authority under which you as a member submit, then there's nothing wrong with her teaching. In fact, she could probably even guest preach one Sunday morning *gasp*, because even then, she would still be under the authority of the local churches leadership.

lambofgod43985889 said:

my sister teaches to children in the church
i told her the bible says women cannot teach in the church, she laughed at me
am i wrong?

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Yes. The prohibition is on women teaching or having authority over a man, and how far that goes is a matter of debate. Teaching children does not qualify in any way, shape, or form.

In the Catholic church we do have women teachers. Plus Nuns that teach.

lambofgod43985889 said:

protestants protest about the catholic church

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And?

You are wrong.

This is also a topic widely debated, there is a whole huge thread here on just that somewhere.

When someone like ajcarey says you are right, no, that's just his opinion. He knows very well there are many scriptures which say the exact opposite. These controversial topics are controversial for a reason.

lambofgod43985889 said:

holy scriptures are not controversial

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Differing views are what I mean by controversial. Take any one topic and you will probably hear a dozen different interpretations or opinions on it. Nobody agrees with the theology of every single Christian church, it's why we have different denominations to begin with.

The simple fact is that women have always been teachers, and Scripture even explicitly mentions this. Acts 18:26 refers to Priscilla and Aquila taking Apollos aside to instruct him on matters of Christian doctrine more thoroughly, the same two which St. Paul mentions in Romans 16:3 as his fellow workers. Take note that in both cases Priscilla is mentioned first, whether or not this is significant is probably up for debate, but it's clear that Priscilla is a person of prominence in her own right, along with her husband.

So the whole idea that women have absolutely no role in the Church is not just wrong, it's entirely contrary to Scripture (not to mention two thousand years of Christian practice).

Scripture does not forbid women from teaching. The key word we need to understand is one that's used only once, in 1 Timothy 2:12, authenteo, this word gets translated as "to usurp", but it carries a sense of a violent action, of taking and asserting oneself by force; to act in an autocratic fashion. The Apostle is condemning what is likely a particular problem, where certain women are acting on their own, causing discord in the community, and saying and doing things outside and against the basic good order of the community.

It would be in error for anyone to engage in athenteo, not just women; but there is are particular matters the Apostle has in mind here. The Apostle, in his writings, is constantly in the habit of instructing the churches to be orderly, well-mannered, to be in peace with one another, to share in life together. And so the Apostle takes particular umbrage against those who would sow discord, instill disorder, cause dissension, and fracture the peace of God's people--especially in the sacred assembly where the cause of meeting is praise, prayer, thanksgiving, receiving of the gifts of God's Word and Sacraments.

It would be wrong if I were to go up front on Sunday morning, shove the pastor aside, and begin insisting on everything going my way. Because of course that's wrong.

Rightly understanding these statements requires that we have the proper understanding of what the sacred assembly, the coming together, is supposed to be about and what it's for. It's not a free-for-all circus where everyone is going around talking, doing their own thing. But a well-ordered service of worship.

Yes, women can teach.
Yes, women can preach the Gospel.
Yes, women can be in positions of leadership and responsibility.
We see women doing all of these things in the New Testament.

But no, nobody is permitted to just decide to turn Christian worship into a self-aggrandizing spectacle.

-CryptoLutheran