ALL WOF'ers COMPLETELY HEALED?

hhodgson · Oct 27, 2019

now faith said:
This is a waste, all they want is to attack God's Word, it is deception.
It is a lie by omission.
They are as sneaky as the televangelist they critize.
This is a group that seeks to cause discord, and they need to repent.

It wouldn't be if they would not only change their minds... but to renew their minds of the promises of God in any, and every area of need... or, I guess we should just take Jesus off the cross, and what Jesus done for us (and them) amounts to nothing unless we/they repent of our ignorance and do the works of God... Only Believe! (Mark 5:36) or, Believe in the One He has sent. (John 6:29).

Si_monfaith · Oct 28, 2019

now faith said:
Matthew 9: 27. And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Thou Son of David, have mercy on us. 28. And when he was come into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord. 29. Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you. 30. And their eyes were opened; and Jesus straitly charged them, saying, See that no man know

Now, you can drop the Adhominim and study a bit.

Did Jesus expect faith from every sick person? Didn't He heal those & their dear ones who hadn't had faith (John 4:48: "Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe")? If so, are some healing ministers blaming the sick for lack of faith instead of admitting they couldn't heal those sick by their faith which lacks?

Si_monfaith · Oct 28, 2019

hhodgson said:
It would be according to their faith, right? We need to acknowledge that God's provision for healing has already been provided for, right? Once we do acknowledge that... we need to (now) appropriate our faith... and (now) receive what God has already done for us. "I believe, I receive when I pray" (Mark 11:24) paraphrased.

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Do you mean say many preachers in the WOF (as listed) to which I belong, & who healed others, didn't appropriate complete healing by their faith?

hhodgson · Oct 28, 2019

Si_monfaith said:
Do you mean say many preachers in the WOF (as listed) to which I belong, & who healed others, didn't appropriate complete healing by their faith?

Si, you must pay more attention. Where does it say that I am using those many preachers in the WOF (as listed) to which you belong... in my post? I believe you were already told by one other that quite a few on that list are not WOF. You say you are (WOF)... so without doing any research, how many on that WOF list are not really WOF? No cheating now. Your being watched. I didn't do any research and I know who's WOF and who isn't on that list. Wel wait on you!

Btw, Why don't you answer our questions to you? In (Post 15)… you were asked by Guojing, "Are you a Calvinist?" I, myself asked you if you are a born-again Christian? No response for either question. There are several other questions we have asked and no answer. Were all wondering why is that? Are we afraid of owning up to being a Reformed Theology (Calvinist)? You are teaching this "ism" in multiple posts and your not suppose to be teaching here at all. You continue to "quote" in your "BIO" that your WOF, really? How about you owning up to who you really are? Be careful how you answer (if you do), for you will be held accountable. How about let's stop playing these games and man up. One other question, "Why are you really here?

Si_monfaith · Oct 28, 2019

hhodgson said:
Si, you must pay more attention. Where does it say that I am using those many preachers in the WOF (as listed) to which you belong... in my post? I believe you were already told by one other that quite a few on that list are not WOF. You say you are (WOF)... so without doing any research, how many on that WOF list are not really WOF? No cheating now. Your being watched. I didn't do any research and I know who's WOF and who isn't on that list. Wel wait on you!

Btw, Why don't you answer our questions to you? In (Post 15)… you were asked by Guojing, "Are you a Calvinist?" I, myself asked you if you are a born-again Christian? No response for either question. There are several other questions we have asked and no answer. Were all wondering why is that? Are we afraid of owning up to being a Reformed Theology (Calvinist)? You are teaching this "ism" in multiple posts and your not suppose to be teaching here at all. You continue to "quote" in your "BIO" that your WOF, really? How about you owning up to who you really are? Be careful how you answer (if you do), for you will be held accountable. How about let's stop playing these games and man up. One other question, "Why are you really here?

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Without digressing meaninglessly, can you answer if no one in the list is WOF to which I belong?

Do you believe I'd been born again when I say I am WOF?

Daniel Marsh · Oct 29, 2019

Si_monfaith said:
So why faith in Christ's death & resurrection?

HUH??

Si_monfaith · Oct 29, 2019

now faith said:
I wonder in general , if idiots have feelings?
You know some of us maybe myself may be going through somthing.
Maybe a daughter who is in a hospital bed tonight.
Thank you for this stellar group of people just ready to offer prayer and consolation.

Here is a sermon some may relate to:

So do you pray as the centurion "Lord I am unworthy before You. Heal the daughter in the hospital bed right now by Your worth" OR "Lord heal her based on my worthiness"?

Is the great faith of the centurion required for our prayers rather than simply pray with feelings?

What do you mean by idiocy?

Si_monfaith · Oct 29, 2019

now faith said:
Jesus did :

Mark 6: 4. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house. 5. And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. 6. And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.

Once again learn what you speak and then you can have a ribbon

So how did Jesus heal before the person had faith according to John 4:47, 48 ("When he heard that Jesus was come out of Judaea into Galilee, he went unto him, and besought him that he would come down, and heal his son: for he was at the point of death. Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe")?

Waiting for your answer.

Si_monfaith · Oct 29, 2019

now faith said:
You know what, Elishsa had a double portion of anointing more than Elijah , yet He died of sickness.
Here's another thing you may know if you understand the spiritual nature of of God.
A Prophet must have a Wittness.
Often people with the Gift of healing neglect their own.
I know a Pastor who has laid hands on cancer and it was gone, yet He lost his jaw and the roof of his mouth to cancer.
Just because someone operates in the gifts of the Spirit ,does not give them a pass on what Satan attacks with.
Many on your list are not even Word of Faith
Who heals the Healer?
Christ does by Faith guess what the Healer is subject to the same spiritual laws anyone else is.
That is where you miss it, we make no claims of superpower We proclaim God's Word.
One thing is for sure you will never have what you speak against, stay healthy
It's a cruel World and a roaring lion is at our doorstep.

now faith said:
I know a Pastor who has laid hands on cancer and it was gone, yet He lost his jaw and the roof of his mouth to cancer.

Are you missing to see the difference between gift of faith which only heals others & personal faith which heals the healer?

Si_monfaith · Oct 29, 2019

Daniel Marsh said:
HUH??

Daniel Marsh said:
As I understand it, they believe God will always do what they demand or ask.

Is exercising faith wrong?

now faith · Oct 29, 2019

Daniel Marsh said:
HUH??

Yoda speak, I don't get it either.

now faith · Oct 30, 2019

hhodgson said:
Si, you must pay more attention. Where does it say that I am using those many preachers in the WOF (as listed) to which you belong... in my post? I believe you were already told by one other that quite a few on that list are not WOF. You say you are (WOF)... so without doing any research, how many on that WOF list are not really WOF? No cheating now. Your being watched. I didn't do any research and I know who's WOF and who isn't on that list. Wel wait on you!

Btw, Why don't you answer our questions to you? In (Post 15)… you were asked by Guojing, "Are you a Calvinist?" I, myself asked you if you are a born-again Christian? No response for either question. There are several other questions we have asked and no answer. Were all wondering why is that? Are we afraid of owning up to being a Reformed Theology (Calvinist)? You are teaching this "ism" in multiple posts and your not suppose to be teaching here at all. You continue to "quote" in your "BIO" that your WOF, really? How about you owning up to who you really are? Be careful how you answer (if you do), for you will be held accountable. How about let's stop playing these games and man up. One other question, "Why are you really here?

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We are under no obligation to answer a inquisition.
We share our faith to the best of our abilities.
We are not on trial, and I believe being called a wolfer or questions that are a attempt to,catch somthing are deceptive.
Time is valuable, my time here calls for late night posting.
When I see our board filled with rhetorical questions, I simply cannot believe they are for learning , but rather discourse.
God Bless you my Friend.

Si_monfaith · Oct 30, 2019

now faith said:
We are under no obligation to answer a inquisition.
We share our faith to the best of our abilities.
We are not on trial, and I believe being called a wolfer or questions that are a attempt to,catch somthing are deceptive.
Time is valuable, my time here calls for late night posting.
When I see our board filled with rhetorical questions, I simply cannot believe they are for learning , but rather discourse.
God Bless you my Friend.

now faith said:
We share our faith to the best of our abilities.

Do you mean to say you share your faith by refusing to admit your unworthiness as the centurion admitted it?

hhodgson · Oct 30, 2019

Si_monfaith said:
So are you certain they were completely healed?

Where and when did I say that Si? You know that your becoming unraveled? Your need to take a break... I would recommend a long one. Sometimes we ALL (also) may need to take a long walk on a short pier. Try that out sometime and bring your bathing suit. lol!

In case the rest of the guys here are interested... The last time you left here (on our forum) was January 2, 2019. Anyway, you returned back on September 15th of this year. Were kind of wondering where you were in that 8 months or so? I bet you were loading up on your Reformed Theology weren't you?

So, back to your returning here to (our) Word of Faith forum. So, from September 15th (your return) to October, 30th (today) is what 45 days? In that 45 days... you have posted with 522 questions on our forum alone. When your not here with us... you sneak over into the Controversial Christian Theology Forum. What a surprise there! That ought to be some fun seeing your impact up there discussing Calvinism.

Tomorrow, my wife and I are heading off to Central Ohio (Holmes County) as the largest Amish population in the world. One of most peaceful areas left (also) in the world. Be gone (3) days or so. I'll take some time when were at our room and check out the action in that forum. Should be fun.

Well, Si... It's time to settle down some before we leave. One more thing. If anyone doubts my count of the 522 questions... do some research.

Daniel Marsh · Oct 30, 2019

Si_monfaith said:
Is exercising faith wrong?

HUH

Daniel Marsh · Oct 30, 2019

now faith said:
We are under no obligation to answer a inquisition.
We share our faith to the best of our abilities.
We are not on trial, and I believe being called a wolfer or questions that are a attempt to,catch somthing are deceptive.
Time is valuable, my time here calls for late night posting.
When I see our board filled with rhetorical questions, I simply cannot believe they are for learning , but rather discourse.
God Bless you my Friend.

sounds like a cop out.

Daniel Marsh · Oct 30, 2019

read to here

yeshuaslavejeff · Oct 30, 2019

Si_monfaith said:
Are all WOF'ers within our WOF family, completely healed? If not, what are the reasons, though faith is given a greater emphasis?

Does faith bring only partial healing?

You may post your answers to my questions.

For example,
when Betsy ten Boom, sister of Corrie ten Boom (known worldwide; survived the holocaust and Yahuweh sent her to 63 countries with the GOOD NEWS of YAHUWEH'S GRACIOUS LOVE for people)
was sick and in the prison camp,
they both believed she would soon be healed. They were both wonderful lives living examples of truth, and true faith in Jesus, and obeying Him.

Betsy died a short time later.

Corrie came to realize that she was healed totally. Free now from all disease, all dis -ease, free from all the cares and concerns of the wrorld, of this life, never to be sick again, ever, always to be
alive with Jesus in the world to come, with no more pain, no more sorrow, no more grief. The best gift of Jesus to men / people by faith. ..... When He no longer holds their sins against them.

Daniel Marsh · Oct 30, 2019

On the side, Today I ran into a Christian Scientist that I knew from years ago.

I asked her what she was doing there. She said, that she has not overcome the false belief that she has a broken leg. Some guy came over and confessed that She is healed. She got up and fell down, breaking her hip too. I asked if She wanted me to hang around. She asked that I come back with her to have an old friend with her.

Si_monfaith · Oct 30, 2019

hhodgson said:
Where and when did I say that Si? You know that your becoming unraveled? Your need to take a break... I would recommend a long one. Sometimes we ALL (also) may need to take a long walk on a short pier. Try that out sometime and bring your bathing suit. lol!

In case the rest of the guys here are interested... The last time you left here (on our forum) was January 2, 2019. Anyway, you returned back on September 15th of this year. Were kind of wondering where you were in that 8 months or so? I bet you were loading up on your Reformed Theology weren't you?

So, back to your returning here to (our) Word of Faith forum. So, from September 15th (your return) to October, 30th (today) is what 45 days? In that 45 days... you have posted with 522 questions on our forum alone. When your not here with us... you sneak over into the Controversial Christian Theology Forum. What a surprise there! That ought to be some fun seeing your impact up there discussing Calvinism.

Tomorrow, my wife and I are heading off to Central Ohio (Holmes County) as the largest Amish population in the world. One of most peaceful areas left (also) in the world. Be gone (3) days or so. I'll take some time when were at our room and check out the action in that forum. Should be fun.

Well, Si... It's time to settle down some before we leave. One more thing. If anyone doubts my count of the 522 questions... do some research.

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Rather than post nonsense, answer as to why complete healing seems to be missing for many in WOF, to which I belong?

So are you evasive & elusive on answering as to whether you ask for healing or any blessing based on Christ's worthiness or your worthiness?

ALL WOF'ers COMPLETELY HEALED?

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