Does God always show mercy?

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*Posted in St. Justin Martyr debate forum*

I was reading 2 Maccabees 9:13-18:

Then the abominable fellow made a vow to the Lord, who would no longer have mercy on him, stating that the holy city, which he was hurrying to level to the ground and to make a cemetery, he was now declaring to be free; and the Jews, whom he had not considered worth burying but had planned to throw out with their children for the wild animals and for the birds to eat, he would make, all of them, equal to citizens of Athens; and the holy sanctuary, which he had formerly plundered, he would adorn with the finest offerings; and all the holy vessels he would give back, many times over; and the expenses incurred for the sacrifices he would provide from his own revenues; and in addition to all this he also would become a Jew and would visit every inhabited place to proclaim the power of God. But when his sufferings did not in any way abate, for the judgement of God had justly come upon him, he gave up all hope for himself...

So it clearly says there that that God would have no mercy on King Antiochus Epiphanes even when he promised to convert.

We also know the verse "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy" and how God did not forgive King David's son even when he prayed and fasted a lot.
 

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Can you explain more Father?

the guy in Maccabees sounds like he was not pardoning the Jews because of love for them and God. and as St Paul says, if we do the right thing but not out of love, it avails us nothing.

mercy wasn't shown because it wasn't truly accepted, not because it wasn't there.
 
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the guy in Maccabees sounds like he was not pardoning the Jews because of love for them and God. and as St Paul says, if we do the right thing but not out of love, it avails us nothing.

mercy wasn't shown because it wasn't truly accepted, not because it wasn't there.
That makes sense but don't we look up for God in times of trouble though?
 
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That makes sense but don't we look up for God in times of trouble though?

yes, but if we're hardened against Him, we won't have access to His mercy because deep down, we really don't want it.
 
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Is that why people in hell won't get God's mercy?

correct, being so hardened against God, those in hell are tormented by His mercy because His mercy exposes their sin, because they have closed themselves off to His mercy.
 
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If God is a loving God, shouldn't He show mercy to all who ask?

I only ask because I am going through, what feels like, hell right now...and I keep begging God to change things...and nothing.

I am suicidal, and it's like He doesn't care. He watches as everything slips away from me. It's cruel, actually.
 
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If God is a loving God, shouldn't He show mercy to all who ask?

I only ask because I am going through, what feels like, hell right now...and I keep begging God to change things...and nothing.

I am suicidal, and it's like He doesn't care. He watches as everything slips away from me. It's cruel, actually.
He does show mercy on all who ask, but he doesn’t always answer our prayers how we want them to be answered. I know what you’re going through - been through it myself too. Praying for you; Lord have mercy!
 
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If God is a loving God, shouldn't He show mercy to all who ask?

I only ask because I am going through, what feels like, hell right now...and I keep begging God to change things...and nothing.

I am suicidal, and it's like He doesn't care. He watches as everything slips away from me. It's cruel, actually.

He does show mercy to those who ask. sometimes He answers in ways that are not obvious.

prayers for you! hang in there!
 
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If God is a loving God, shouldn't He show mercy to all who ask?

I only ask because I am going through, what feels like, hell right now...and I keep begging God to change things...and nothing.

I am suicidal, and it's like He doesn't care. He watches as everything slips away from me. It's cruel, actually.
Lord have mercy!

I admit I have been enduring some tough times and I have posted my struggles in this forum. Feeling God was mocking me.

We will be praying for you.
 
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This is a shorter version of the Mother of God's mercy on a young man that would go out and carouse. I heard it during a liturgy that this man would go out and repeatedly sin sexually and then come back to the Mother of God and repent to just go back and do it again. He was begging for help, but Jesus said no because he was willing to truly repent and change his ways. So the Mother of God asked Jesus if she could help him and Jesus said yes and the rest of the story is below in how she helped him. So the question about mercy is why I shared this about the Mother of God and her mercy for this young man.



“Unexpected Joy” Icon of the Mother of God from Andronikov
Commemorated on May 1


The “Unexpected Joy” Icon of the Most Holy Theotokos, is painted in this way: in a room is an icon of the Mother of God, and beneath it a youth is kneeling at prayer. The tradition about the healing of some youth from a bodily affliction through this holy icon is recorded in the book of Saint Demetrius of Rostov, The Fleece of Prayer [See Judges 6: 36-40].

The sinful youth, who was nevertheless devoted to the Theotokos, was praying one day before the icon of the All-Pure Virgin before going out to commit a sin. Suddenly, he saw that wounds appeared on the Lord’s hands, feet, and side, and blood flowed from them. In horror he exclaimed, “O Lady, who has done this?” The Mother of God replied, “You and other sinners, because of your sins, crucify My Son anew.” Only then did he realize how great was the depth of his sinfulness. For a long time he prayed with tears to the All-Pure Mother of God and the Savior for mercy. Finally, he received the unexpected joy of the forgiveness of his sins.

The “Unexpected Joy” icon is also commemorated on January 25 and May 1.
 
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