Poll: Majority Says First Amendment Goes Too Far

BeholdenGlory said:

A sampling from the U.K.

Police investigating 'hate crime' after transgender woman turned down for inappropriate content role 'because she has a penis'

A big social media following could earn you a harsher sentence if you're convicted of hate crime

Hate Speech: U.K. Political Leader Arrested for Quoting Winston Churchill

It's important to understand Americans will never put up with this. I would employ lethal self defence against a state looking to ruin my life because someone doesn't like my opinions. That is a hard red line that millions of us will not abide the crossing of.

The tyranny of leftist speech and thought suppression will ultimately end in violence. Suppression always leads to violence.

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Americans are already putting up with it, and they are doing it to themselves.

Count it lucky you actually get to see what is in store for us - because we have been blissfully letting "them" drive our demise by allowing our prejudices and fears to be exploited. IT rolls downhill - or in this case, westward.

Kaon said:

Americans are already putting up with it, and they are doing it to themselves.

Count it lucky you actually get to see what is in store for us - because we have been blissfully letting "them" drive our demise by allowing our prejudices and fears to be exploited. IT rolls downhill - or in this case, westward.

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In Canada it all rolls south.

BeholdenGlory said:

A sampling from the U.K.

Police investigating 'hate crime' after transgender woman turned down for inappropriate content role 'because she has a penis'

A big social media following could earn you a harsher sentence if you're convicted of hate crime

Hate Speech: U.K. Political Leader Arrested for Quoting Winston Churchill

It's important to understand Americans will never put up with this. I would employ lethal self defence against a state looking to ruin my life because someone doesn't like my opinions. That is a hard red line that millions of us will not abide the crossing of.

The tyranny of leftist speech and thought suppression will ultimately end in violence. Suppression always leads to violence.

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Your ‘samplings’ contain intellectual dishonesty.

Take the Churchillian example...he wrote those words before the turn of the century in 1897. Would it surprise you that his attitude towards Islam and Moslems evolved markedly as he grew and matured?

The laws in the UK have been pushed too far at times, but they still beat the hell out of a system that allows people to scream at grieving parents at their children’s funeral that ‘God hates them’ without repercussion.

The way some Americans talk about free speech as if it was a binary thing is childish and ridiculous. EVERY country on earth now and for all human history have imposed limitations on free speech, and the US is no different. If you want to set your particular free speech line in a way that allows abject cruelty and barbarism, then just do it and stop pretending you’re morally superior for it.

I want to see the poll question. There is no link to the actual poll.

Canada has hate speech laws. We do great. We have a human rights tribunal too.

I love it.
I love them both

Please though. For the love of all things sacred...do NOT come up to Canada you'll get caught up in our ruinous hellscape of sacrificed right wingers. Where our curbs are aligned with your scapulars to help surface water efficiently drain away.
It is unholy!
It is never ending suffering!
It is.......REASONABLLLLLLLE!!!!!!

BeholdenGlory said:

We still have our guns. Hope remains.

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[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] does that even mean?

Just BTW, all speech is NOT allowed in the US. There are many kinds of speech than can be curtailed. It is NOT legal to shout "fire' in a crowded building.

wing2000 said:

I want to see the poll question. There is no link to the actual poll.

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There is a link to the poll in the first article the OP links to -- but to make it easy, you can find the actual poll here.

I do find the poll question a bit leading, "The First Amendment, which provides the right of Americans to have free speech, was enacted more than 200 years ago. Do you agree or disagree with this statement? 'The First Amendment goes too far in allowing hate speech in modern America and should be updated to reflect the cultural norms of today.'"

BeholdenGlory said:

You literally have mandated homosexuality in the U.K., but tell us more how you're still, "free".

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I think people should be very civil homosexuals.

BeholdenGlory said:

Saying there exist only 2 genders is hate speech these days.

Hate speech is all the speech leftists hate. That's the definition, whenever someone asks for it.

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Thats in your own head .Now bugging and harrassing people about their gender goes to far. It's not like their lives are any of your business.

America would be better if we got rid of the 1st Amendment. Everyone would say acceptable and approved things and everyone would be of the Correct and True Faith.

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Brightmoon said:

I’d say that using a statistic to claim that all black peoples are like that is just bias . We have different cultures. West Indians don’t act like Americans. Black Southerners have more in common with white southerners than they do with Black northerners . Yet you’re trying to stick all people of recent African descent into an amorphous crowd that doesn’t exist

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You make valid ... and thoughtful points here ...

JackRT said:

The times change and the Constitution and its Amendments need to change with it. That is exactly why the Constitution has already been amended 27 times.

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JackRT said:

The times change and the Constitution and its Amendments need to change with it. That is exactly why the Constitution has already been amended 27 times.

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Hate speech laws, political correctness, and the other novel idea's out there are simply attempts to control speech, by controlling language.

How about people grow thick skin, and just let it roll off their back. One person says whatever they want, and the other person says whatever they want.

If adults can't take that, then we have lost our way. When I was young, and during my military career, we solved our issues man to man, and didn't run off and call the cops , or, try to sue the other person, you either prevailed, or, you licked your wounds.

Perhaps we should return to that.