He paid the price for those who LOVE Him and do so by keeping the commandments:He paid the price for ME!
My statement of Jesus was certainly not proof that Mormons teach a false religion and a false god. Because it is straight out of the bible. What are you talking about?That's an unclear run on sentence.
Proof that Mormons teach a false religion and false gods:
Doctrine and Covenants 130
1–3, The Father and the Son may appear personally to men; 4–7, Angels reside in a celestial sphere; 8–9, The celestial earth will be a great Urim and Thummim; 10–11, A white stone is given to all who enter the celestial world; 12–17, The time of the Second Coming is withheld from the Prophet; 18–19, Intelligence gained in this life rises with us in the Resurrection; 20–21, All blessings come by obedience to law; 22–23, The Father and the Son have bodies of flesh and bones.
Doctrine and Covenants 130
Jesus died for our sins. You can't do that.
I've been telling you repeatedly since 2015.
That's a ridiculous statement because I've never said that is what you believe. See proof of your false religion given above.
My statement of Jesus was certainly not proof that Mormons teach a false religion and a false god. Because it is straight out of the bible. What are you talking about?
All of the things you put in bold are indeed true, seek knowledge here are just a few of the many many scriptures:THIS is the proof I've been pointing out repeatedly:
1–3, The Father and the Son may appear personally to men; 4–7, Angels reside in a celestial sphere; 8–9, The celestial earth will be a great Urim and Thummim; 10–11, A white stone is given to all who enter the celestial world; 12–17, The time of the Second Coming is withheld from the Prophet; 18–19, Intelligence gained in this life rises with us in the Resurrection; 20–21, All blessings come by obedience to law; 22–23, The Father and the Son have bodies of flesh and bones.
The parts I bolded are most definitely not true! Do you know what a colon is and what follows it?
Well, lets take each of these topics and see what the bible says:THIS is the proof I've been pointing out repeatedly:
1–3, The Father and the Son may appear personally to men; 4–7, Angels reside in a celestial sphere; 8–9, The celestial earth will be a great Urim and Thummim; 10–11, A white stone is given to all who enter the celestial world; 12–17, The time of the Second Coming is withheld from the Prophet; 18–19, Intelligence gained in this life rises with us in the Resurrection; 20–21, All blessings come by obedience to law; 22–23, The Father and the Son have bodies of flesh and bones.
The parts I bolded are most definitely not true! Do you know what a colon is and what follows it?
Well, lets take each of these topics and see what the bible says:
1) The Father and the Son may appear personally to men. This is true.
Genesis 32:30 Jacob had a personal visit from God.
Genesis 18:18 Abraham had a personal visit from God.
Exodus 24:10 70 elders of Israel were personally visited by God.
I could go on and on.
2) Angels reside in a celestial sphere. This is true if you call where God dwells, "a Celestial sphere." If you can, angels dwell with God in a celestial sphere.
3) The celestial earth will be a great Urim and Thummim. This is 1/2 true per the bible. The earth will be changed to a glorious sphere, but does not say anything about a Urim and Thummim that I can remember.
4) A white stone is given to those that enter the celestial world. This is true. If the celestial world is heaven, then look at Revelation 2:17. For those who overcome the world will be given a white stone....
5) The time of the second coming is withheld from the prophet. This is true, when did JS ever declare the time of the second coming?
As you can see, your Mormon memory is not good, so study up some more.
Oh, BTW, another word for a colon is large intestine, what follows it is inappropriate detail on the forum.
We could debate these things ad nauseum and would make no progress, so I will just go to the next subject.In Exodus 33:18, Moses asks God, “Please show me your glory.” God responds, “‘I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the Lord, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. But,’ he said, ‘you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.’ Then the Lord said, ‘There is a place near me where you may stand on a rock. When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by. Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen.’” (Exodus 33:19–23). So, clearly, Moses never truly or fully saw God.
Did Moses see God? | GotQuestions.org
John 1:18
No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father’s side, he has made him known.
In Mormonism, only exalted persons dwell with God.
D&C 132:17
For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are angels of God forever and ever.
D&C 1:31 "For I the Lord cannot look upon sin with the least degree of allowance;"
Helaman 4:24 "...the Spirit of the Lord doth not dwell in unholy temples."
D&C 58:43 "By this ye may know if a man repenteth of his sins - behold, he will confess them and forsake them."
Alma 11:37 "And I say unto you again that he cannot save them in their sins; for I cannot deny his word, and he hath said that no unclean thing can inherit the kingdom of heaven; therefore, how can ye be saved, except ye inherit the kingdom of heaven? Therefore, ye cannot be saved in your sins."
Matthew Henry Commentary
Revelation 21:1-8 The new heaven and the new earth will not be separate from each other; the earth of the saints, their glorified, bodies, will be heavenly. The old world, with all its troubles and tumults, will have passed away. There will be no sea; this aptly represents freedom from conflicting passions, temptations, troubles, changes, and alarms; from whatever can divide or interrupt the communion of saints. This new Jerusalem is the church of God in its new and perfect state, the church triumphant. Its blessedness came wholly from God, and depends on him. The presence of God with his people in heaven, will not be interrupt as it is on earth, he will dwell with them continually. All effects of former trouble shall be done away. They have often been in tears, by reason of sin, of affliction, of the calamities of the church; but no signs, no remembrance of former sorrows shall remain. Christ makes all things new. If we are willing and desirous that the gracious Redeemer should make all things new in order hearts and nature, he will make all things new in respect of our situation, till he has brought us to enjoy complete happiness. See the certainty of the promise. God gives his titles, Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End, as a pledge for the full performance. Sensual and sinful pleasures are muddy and poisoned waters; and the best earthly comforts are like the scanty supplies of a cistern; when idolized, they become broken cisterns, and yield only vexation. But the joys which Christ imparts are like waters springing from a fountain, pure, refreshing, abundant, and eternal. The sanctifying consolations of the Holy Spirit prepare for heavenly happiness; they are streams which flow for us in the wilderness. The fearful durst not meet the difficulties of religion, their slavish fear came from their unbelief; but those who were so dastardly as not to dare to take up the cross of Christ, were yet so desperate as to run into abominable wickedness. The agonies and terrors of the first death will lead to the far greater terrors and agonies of eternal death.
I've been aware of the white stones on which is our new name that no one knows.
"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it."
IOW, your former spouses(no wives in heaven) might receive a new name, definitely not revealed to you in the temple!
A little truth mixed with error, duh!
The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose. Even things that are good in themselves (such as the Bible) (see also Bible) can be twisted to serve bad purposes. This proverb comes from the play The Merchant of Venice, by William Shakespeare.
Definition of the devil can cite scripture for his purpose | Dictionary.com
Thank you for your faulty assessment. I'm still going strong!
Really? I won't report your improper remark.
God does show mercy to those who LOVE Him:Make no progress? What do you call progress? Is it having Christians join your church? Of course we won't. Some Mormons will become Christians. Maybe there are lurkers, maybe not.
Anyway, I'm grateful for God's blessings and lessons in my life and for His wonderful Sovereignity! Your god is a taskmaster who can't show mercy.
12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
Yes, He shows mercy on those who turn away from sin:God shows mercy to sinners in delivering us from the power of Satan.
(New Testament | Romans 8:5 - 7)God frees us from Satan's grasp before we can desire His help.
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith -- and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God -- not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. (Eph 2:8-10/NIV)
Without His Spirit we can't understand spiritual things and wouldn't care about repenting.
The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. (1 Cor. 2:14 NIV)
9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of e his Spirit who lives in you. (Rom. 8:9-11/NIV)
(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 4:3 - 5)Do you ever fail to do this?
[ ] YES
[ ] NO
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