Does Jesus still heal today?

Strong in Him said:

Not entirely.
Jesus did not ask all people if they had faith before he healed them. I have read of non Christians, with no faith at all, who've been healed - and lovely Christians who have not yet received the physical healing they prayed for.
If healing was earned by faith, it would be a work; something we had got for ourselves by our belief.

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It is not so much our faith in a Scripture, but obeying a rhema about a Scripture

Strong in Him said:

No, the key to it is understanding that it is a greeting at the beginning of a letter. "I pray that you may enjoy good health" is not at all the same as saying "God has promised that all believers will have good health, prosper and never be sick."

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So what? It is still truth. How many take the introduction of Paul about the Jews and the apostles being predestined, and turn that into a doctrine about Gentiles as well?

CharismaticLady said:

So what? It is still truth.

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John was writing a personal letter, said that he hoped the recipient was well and that they would prosper materially just as they were spiritually prosperous - that is certainly true.

It's not true that the verse is a promise from God that all believers will have prosperous lives and be blessed. Doesn't say that at all.

Strong in Him said:

John was writing a personal letter, said that he hoped the recipient was well and that they would prosper materially just as they were spiritually prosperous - that is certainly true.

It's not true that the verse is a promise from God that all believers will have prosperous lives and be blessed. Doesn't say that at all.

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Do you believe the words of Jesus in Mark 16:16-18?

CharismaticLady said:

Do you believe the words of Jesus in Mark 16:16-18?

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Sure; he told the disciples they were to go and preach the Gospel and baptise, and that there would be various signs that followed those who believed.
The Gospel - God coming to earth, becoming flesh, living among us, dying for our sins and then being raised to life again - was very new; the signs were needed to confirm its truth. That does not mean that miraculous signs aren't needed, and don't happen today - it certainly isn't a promise that believers will all have prosperous lives and be healed immediately if they do get sick.
Like I said, God keeps his promises. If that was what was promised, it would happen - every time.

dqhall said:

King David may have needed to hide after his raiding and killing Philistines.

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The Bible says clearly
that David needed to flee and hide
FROM Yahuweh's Annointed King.

Before, after, and/or during David's raids.

Strong in Him said:

Not entirely.
Jesus did not ask all people if they had faith before he healed them. I have read of non Christians, with no faith at all, who've been healed - and lovely Christians who have not yet received the physical healing they prayed for.
If healing was earned by faith, it would be a work; something we had got for ourselves by our belief.

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"Your faith has made you whole" "Go and sin no more" "If you believe, it will be done for you"(double check this one)
"Yahuweh Does Will To Do So (wants to heal you)" ..... all true in Scripture and as Yahuweh Reveals Today also.....
So the gift of faith , as well as abiding in union with the Son and with the Father,
and simply Yahuweh's Choice,
may heal anyone.
May be different each time, or 'the same' (outwardly) at times.....
May be a work of faith.
May be a work designed by Yahuweh Sovereign Creator before the world was created, as everything was by His Good Pleasure.

Just like a man's body without breath is dead, so also faith without works is dead. No exception given in that verse.

Strong in Him said:

If that was what was promised, it would happen - every time.

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This is a very common mis-construing of one verse/ promise that often does injustice when Yahuweh's Comprehensive Plan is not understood or seen or trusted.

When people do not receive healing, or get healed, does not contradict any of Yahuweh's Word, Promises, Plan or Purpose in Christ Jesus. It is simply His Perfect Plan being accomplished, even / although with much persecution, suffering, dying, death and sickness and brokenness , all as Jesus Said...
then Jesus Said, from the Father, "But Be Of Good Cheer, for I Have Overcome the World" ....

yeshuaslavejeff said:

This is a very common mis-construing of one verse/ promise that often does injustice when Yahuweh's Comprehensive Plan is not understood or seen or trusted.

When people do not receive healing, or get healed, does not contradict any of Yahuweh's Word, Promises, Plan or Purpose in Christ Jesus. It is simply His Perfect Plan being accomplished, even / although with much persecution, suffering, dying, death and sickness and brokenness , all as Jesus Said...
then Jesus Said, from the Father, "But Be Of Good Cheer, for I Have Overcome the World" ....

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THIS so much. When people try to judge someone's faith by their physical health it's just so wrong and not supported by scripture. Even Paul had an affliction, a thorn in his side metaphorically speaking, as far as I know his whole life.
The Flesh is weak.

Jamdoc said:

THIS so much. When people try to judge someone's faith by their physical health it's just so wrong and not supported by scripture. Even Paul had an affliction, a thorn in his side metaphorically speaking, as far as I know his whole life.
The Flesh is weak.

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In real life, where do you see people judging someone's faith by their physical health ?

yeshuaslavejeff said:

In real life, where do you see people judging someone's faith by their physical health ?

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It happens, it's not super common but like Job's friends people offer that maybe you're sick because you did something particularly nasty that offended God. We're all sinners, we all offend God but you don't have to be particularly evil to suffer an affliction in fact God promised we would suffer afflictions and persecution.

Jamdoc said:

It happens, it's not super common but like Job's friends people offer that maybe you're sick because you did something particularly nasty that offended God. We're all sinners, we all offend God but you don't have to be particularly evil to suffer an affliction in fact God promised we would suffer afflictions and persecution.

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What I've seen in person, at dozens of churches, and on the forum, is that it is very common to judge someone's faith because they are sick..... NOT that it is good nor right to judge someone's faith that way, since that is not the righteous judgment Yahuweh says is His and that we are to learn, just that it appears to be very common among Christians who don't follow God's Word nor listen to Jesus Teaching.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

"Your faith has made you whole" "Go and sin no more" "If you believe, it will be done for you"(double check this one)

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Jesus did not ask Peter's mother-in-law how much faith she had before he healed her, Mark 1:29-31, nor the crowds that came for healing after that, Mark 1:32-34. Jairus and his wife laughed at Jesus when he said that their daughter was asleep, Mark 5:40, but Jesus still raised her to life again. In Mark 8:31-37 Jesus met a deaf and mute man - and faith is not even mentioned. In Mark 9 when Jesus met the father of the boy with the unclean spirit, he said "IF you can, take pity on us." He later said, "I do believe, help me in my unbelief". The man at the pool of Betheda, in John 5, did not even answer when Jesus asked him if he wanted to be well, but repeated the superstition that a person would only be healed if they went into the pool after an angel had stirred the water, John 5:7. Yet Jesus still healed him.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

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"Yahuweh Does Will To Do So (wants to heal you)" ..... all true in Scripture and as Yahuweh Reveals Today also.....

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God does want to heal, and he does heal today.
But it's not for us to demand that he do it immediately, when we ask him for it. The salvation, and health, of our souls is far more important than our temporary bodies.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

So the gift of faith , as well as abiding in union with the Son and with the Father,
and simply Yahuweh's Choice,
may heal anyone.

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I don't believe it depends on OUR faith.
I know of at least 2 people who were trusting in God and grew to have a much closer relationship with God, yet still had cancer/were in wheelchairs.
I don't believe it's a matter of God's choice either - that would mean that it was all random; that God said to people "I will heal her but not him", based purely on a whim.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

May be different each time, or 'the same' (outwardly) at times.....
May be a work of faith.

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As I said, some have been healed without faith - yet some lovely, Spirit filled Christians, who have had faith and asked God - have not received physical healing.

Strong in Him said:

I don't believe it's a matter of God's choice either - that would mean that it was all random; that God said to people "I will heal her but not him", based purely on a whim.

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To men/ mankind/ much of what Yahuweh does "appears random"/without cause/ unrelated.
But
He is in charge completely, as illustrated throughout His Word, of the whole Universe - and He directly sets the boundaries , for instance, of every ocean, every iceberg, every storm,
as well as the raising up of kings, and bringing them down,
and concerning everyone who loves Him, who is called according to His Purpose,
He Himself Works Out (Orchestrates) EVERYTHING for their good. (as written).

CharismaticLady said:

Do you believe the words of Jesus in Mark 16:16-18?

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Could you clarify, and spell out the words of Jesus (include them), that you are referring to ?

HopeInJesusOnly said:

Serious question, taking into account everything from a cavity to MS to Alzheimer's to mental illness -- does God heal? Should we even pray for healing or should we only be praying for the strength to endure?

Also, should Christians expect easier lives? Happier lives? Lives that are more blessed? (Or is this the sinful prosperity gospel, which leads me back to my questions above.)

Thanks in advance for your response.

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Of course, the Father through Jesus by the Spirit's power heals today, but he often uses medical means to do it. He healed my seven-year major depression and five-year daily migraines through prayer but left my three kinds of chronic pain, which have become my "thorn in the flesh" (2 Cor. 12:1-10). Some day he will give me his final healing when he raises my body from the dead at his second coming.

When we pray for healing and someone dies, God at that point has begun the healing process for the soul, which will be reunited with the resurrected body of a believer at the resurrection. We can lead happier lives because of Philippians 4:4-7, in which Paul commands us to rejoice all the time and give our requests to God persistently until God gives us his peace which no one can fully understand. Persistent, constant prayer and praise (1 Thessalonians 5:16-18) brings real, lasting security in Jesus in this life as a foretaste of our final perfection in the next. This is not health and wealth "gospel" but is God's hope that he gives all Christians for his blessings which he begins now but will complete then.

Strong in Him said:

Sure; he told the disciples they were to go and preach the Gospel and baptise, and that there would be various signs that followed those who believed.
The Gospel - God coming to earth, becoming flesh, living among us, dying for our sins and then being raised to life again - was very new; the signs were needed to confirm its truth. That does not mean that miraculous signs aren't needed, and don't happen today - it certainly isn't a promise that believers will all have prosperous lives and be healed immediately if they do get sick.
Like I said, God keeps his promises. If that was what was promised, it would happen - every time.

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Well, I'm certainly not "prosperous" but I'm not hungry either. I'm not Word of Faith, but I am a woman of extreme faith. I follow rhemas, not my own will. That is what I've been trying to tell you. BTW those signs are for all who believe, not just the apostles. It is to all who RESPOND to their preaching.

15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

I'm a believer, and my life confirms all these signs. That is not to say that some who don't believe in these signs, don't have Jesus. It just depends on how much of an abundant life we want on earth before heaven.

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True story...take it with a grain of salt if you wish. I use to go pray for this elderly man in a home and read the bible to him. He could only moan but LOVED hearing the word. One day in pray and reading I told the lord "you gave me this burden for this man so I have a right to ask why is he not being healed"? What happened next does NOT happen all the time but MAN I pray wish hope it did

He asked me "remember when Daniel prayed?" I said "ok if this is really you..where is that written?" "Daniel 10 9-12". Now what makes this AWESOME! I had never read the book of Daniel nor the OT. No internet back then. And He said.. Satan has built up such a hedge that a simple prayer will not work.

Its not what I say or believe..Jesus said..lay hands on the sick they SHALL recover. And Isa 53 5 1st Peter 2 24. I pray.. I am not moved by what I SEE or time. He said it IT HAS TO happen. I don't look at what happens to others I know my moms husband ..all that knew him told how he always knew he would be healed. ALone in the car one day.. with me he doubted.. he cried.. knew he would not be. I never told anyone. The word says.. if you doubt let not that man think he will get anything from God

But God does so many times .. comes down to our level and .. heals.. so.. yeah He does.. I just have what He said..sorry. But I still believe He did does will.

HopeInJesusOnly said:

Yes, yes and so much yes.

Thank you. May God bless you.

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May God bless you too.