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Thank you so much for taking the time this morning to show me all of these articles which are great reminders.

You're so welcome PeterJames. They were written by someone who has helps 1,000's of people ditch inappropriate content and change their marriages to sanctuaries of joy and romantic love. I follow his recommendations in my own marriage and they help reveal and maintain the amazing beauty of the institution that is marriage.

I shall do what I can to keep the account balance together, but it has to be a soft push. Completely 'hard' push is impossible because a) she is used to the way things are now b) we both work 40+ hours a week and a lot of times are tired.

Approach her with a proposal that would make your marriage wonderful and help you ditch inappropriate content. Tell her you found a method for great marriages and invite her to join with you. The two of you can post for free in the marriagebuilders.com forum (you'll each have your own thread) and the trained volunteers will help you overcome your problems, stay accountable to your next steps and enjoy the benefits of a dazzling, in love marriage.

The only other comment I would say is ... I have not found my 'sister-hole' in my heart filled by my spouse. That is no insult to the spouse; there's something else that I need to explore.

There is nothing else you need to explore. This simply means that you are not in love with your wife.

Are there certain behaviors your wife displays towards you that withdraws units from her account in your heart?

When you are in love with each other (invest the time to build up your deposits in the other's heart), and have integrated sexual and recreational lives, there is no room left for a sister-hole. Your wife will be your best friend, your confidant, your everything. You two will truly become one.
 
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Last night, my wife told me she is such a sucker because she stays with me even though I have inappropriate content addiction. I want to be rid of my addiction once and for all.

But when I stop, there will be a huge vacuum and sense of loneliness. I always have loneliness anyways as I wish I had a sister; I know, an odd thing for me.

I want to be rid of all loneliness and inappropriate content addictions and I want Jesus Christ to be my all in all and always ever satisfying. I have tried programs, Bible studies, prayer, Steps to Freedom in Christ, you name it - I've done it.

Please pray for me ... I don't want my wife to feel like she is that sucker ... :(
This type of addictive behavior is exactly how you have described, loneliness. It is time to receive His Holy Spirit so that the burden is lifted.
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I absolutely agree that psychology can show us what pit we have fallen into, but only Christ can get us out.

Actually, the Bible can show you the pit you're in. But, unlike modern psychology, it tells us what the fundamental root of our sin is: Self, or the "old man" of whom Paul wrote. If a person doesn't deal with Self, the sin it produces never ceases.

Amen to what you've said about only Christ getting us out of the pits into which we descend. I would say, though, that Christ has already got us out; we just have to know that he has (identification) and by faith live in in accord with this fact (appropriation).

I fail to see where in the Scriptures it says we should not understand ourselves, ours story, our weaknesses, and our strengths?

I think as adults we all have a pretty good understanding of who we are. And the Bible also fleshes out who we are most fundamentally and what God has done in response to our core impulses and motivations. It seems to me the things the Bible reveals to us about ourselves are the most important things to know and deal with, not childhood trauma, or quirks of personality, or whatever.

God has made us to be conformed to the thing upon which focus. This is why we have advertising on t.v., billboards, magazines, websites, etc. It is common knowledge that the more a thing occupies one's mind, the more it influences and shapes one's thinking and behaviour. And so it is that God tells us to fix our mind upon Him, upon Christ. When we begin to navel gaze, looking inward at ourselves, we should not be surprised when we find ourselves, not like Christ, but just more deeply embedded in who we are.

Nouthethic counseling means from the Greek 'True Counseling' and uses only the Bible in counseling and discounts disciplined study of the human person which psychology does. I went through 6 months of intense Nouthethic counseling, but to no avail.

I'm familiar with Nouthetic counseling.

I don't see him condemning the search for why certain problems exist in our lives because it may be once we understand the why, we'll stop doing them.

I don't see that an awareness of why we sin is the answer to no longer sinning. That's not what I see in the Bible, anyway. The Bible says that all of our sin ultimately emanates from the "Old Man," from Self, but knowing this doesn't help anyone get free of the "Old Man." For that, one must turn, not to modern psychology, but to God who has, in Christ, made all of His children free from the power of their "Old Man."

Self will, being guilted to do better, reading the Bible, "trying harder", etc. -- unfortunately, these are solutions that haven't worked for me. I believe they could work later, but there is some sort of spiritual (demonic) or psychological barrier.

Self-will, trying harder - these have nothing at all to do with how a Christian comes free of sin. In fact, Scripture indicates that the more I try to contribute my self-effort to the transforming work of God, the more I foul what He is doing. My "job" is to get out of His way, to surrender (Romans 12:1), yield (Romans 6:13-19), submit myself (James 4:7) to His work, to His will and way, and by faith trust Him to do it. I only work out what He has first worked into me. (Philippians 2:13) If I don't get this right, I find myself inevitably in the grip of the principle of like begetting like. A cat can only beget a cat, a dog begets a dog, a duck begets a duck, and you and I can only beget more of ourselves. It is only God who can make us godly, who can beget the character of Christ in us.

I doubt there is a demonic barrier or a psychological one to being free of your sin. I think you just haven't either understood God's way of freedom or haven't taken it truly to heart.
 
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Approach her with a proposal that would make your marriage wonderful and help you ditch inappropriate content. Tell her you found a method for great marriages and invite her to join with you. The two of you can post for free in the marriagebuilders.com forum (you'll each have your own thread) and the trained volunteers will help you overcome your problems, stay accountable to your next steps and enjoy the benefits of a dazzling, in love marriage.



There is nothing else you need to explore. This simply means that you are not in love with your wife.

Are there certain behaviors your wife displays towards you that withdraws units from her account in your heart?

When you are in love with each other (invest the time to build up your deposits in the other's heart), and have integrated sexual and recreational lives, there is no room left for a sister-hole. Your wife will be your best friend, your confidant, your everything. You two will truly become one.

Perhaps ... but if I have a sister that was separated from me at birth, I should like to know ... I'm not sure that is a question that is going to go away. If I have misinterpreted and it's a brother ... that is great too. I concede the enemy could be taking the wiring of this problem and twisting it unnaturally ... but it's still something I need the answer to.

Thank you again.
 
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This type of addictive behavior is exactly how you have described, loneliness. It is time to receive His Holy Spirit so that the burden is lifted.
Blessings

Do you mean the 2nd work of grace? I have taught on the Holy Spirit and trusted in Him; but I'm afraid, I have never really had an overwhelming experience of Him in my life.
 
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I went through 6 months of intense Nouthethic counseling, but to no avail.

PeterJames, I'm not surprised that nouthetic counseling did nothing. It is a quack system that often does more harm than good.

Self will, being guilted to do better, reading the Bible, "trying harder", etc. -- unfortunately, these are solutions that haven't worked for me.

Yep. That's the direction nouthetic counseling would steer you too. You're right. That does nothing for an addiction.
 
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Perhaps ... but if I have a sister that was separated from me at birth, I should like to know ... I'm not sure that is a question that is going to go away. If I have misinterpreted and it's a brother ... that is great too. I concede the enemy could be taking the wiring of this problem and twisting it unnaturally ... but it's still something I need the answer to.

PeterJames, this is a distraction from resolving your problems. I know people whose children were wrongfully alienated from them by the other spouse but they are able to put that gaping hole aside to focus on their wives in the way I have described to you, have not replaced that ache with an addiction and have wonderful, romantic marriages with their wife and closest friend.

For now you need to put this aside. It is not your problem. Your problem is your addiction to inappropriate content and the poor marriage you are offering your wife. You don't want your wife to feel like she's a sucker to stay with you; you want to offer her a joyful, satisfactory and romantic marriage. You want her to eagerly desire to stay with you. The first step is removing access to your addictive substance.
 
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Do you mean the 2nd work of grace? I have taught on the Holy Spirit and trusted in Him; but I'm afraid, I have never really had an overwhelming experience of Him in my life.
It is not so much a second work of grace as it is grace itself. God gave us the Holy Spirit so that He can unite with our spirit. Simply ask Him for His Holy Spirit and let Him have control over your burden. What is impossible for us, is possible with God through His Son Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Relinquish to Him.
Luke 18:24
“The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.”
 
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Last night, my wife told me she is such a sucker because she stays with me even though I have inappropriate content addiction. I want to be rid of my addiction once and for all.

But when I stop, there will be a huge vacuum and sense of loneliness. I always have loneliness anyways as I wish I had a sister; I know, an odd thing for me.

I want to be rid of all loneliness and inappropriate content addictions and I want Jesus Christ to be my all in all and always ever satisfying. I have tried programs, Bible studies, prayer, Steps to Freedom in Christ, you name it - I've done it.

Please pray for me ... I don't want my wife to feel like she is that sucker ... :(
Well you didn't mention fasting. A once a week water only fast for 24 hours, IF you are very healthy, can work wonders to break strongholds.

It is great that you actually hate inappropriate content. The book, and an associated website, Every Man's Battle, has helped so many. I wonder if you can find, or start, an accountability group online. I pray for your freedom for life. I also pray that the Lord will fill in that lonely space for you.
 
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Hey..only going by what you said :) tell her all you said here. What I learned many years ago. No one controls us. There is no "sin" that has a right to control us make us do anything. Christ is the ONLY way out.. there is no other option. Seen heard to many where that desire what ever it was that was not of God...just vanished. So get rid of the lie of this loneliness. Think of others 1st.

With Christ ALL not some.. ALL things are possible. So many times we can act but we don't. We really don't want to change. Well what causes, helps it? Get rid of it. Thought desire pops up.. take a job.. take a cold shower.. bind the enemy in JESUS name. Find verse in His word to battle to speak when those desire from the enemy pop up..

Romans 13:14, Rom 12:21, Rom 8:4-9, Rom 10:9-13. 1st Cor 6:12. 2nd Cor 10:4-5. Eph 3:16, Eph 6:10-17. Heb 4:14-16. 1st John 4:4.

This is His word.. there is LIFE in His word. You can see it hear if feel it but..it will deliver you. See He said OT ANYONE thats YOU that calls on the name of the lord shall be delivered. Joel 2:32 "And it will come about that whoever calls on the name of the LORD Will be delivered". GOD CANT LIE! You WILL be delivered in JESUS name! He can not lie
 
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I have done something strange to my computer system, and it was entirely not expected. My system actually now blocks all bad sites and 85% of all good sites. I tried uninstalling my PLUCKEYE system momentarily, and it caused this 'intermittent' Internet access thingy. I can't get the extension re-added and it says my Internet is being blocked. My flesh says 'BOO'. My spirit says 'YAY!'

I had whitelisted this site, I had whitelisted a few other okay sites. But all inappropriate content and 85% of the rest of the internet is now filtered out and I have no way of changing it. I use LINUX, which I don't really know how to use very well. All of it is converging together like a time of grace.

I think this is a blessing in disguise. The only thing I see I may have trouble with is updating my church's website through weebly; for whatever reason, that is also being filtered. But youtube, completely gone. All other video platforms, gone. Facebook - looks like a completely jumbled mess. Any other webpage gets error message like this below.

I have been truly blessed by God.

My wife and I have had the most wonderful past two days. I'm not sure why God has given me this temporary grace, but I need to learn how to make the most of it.

You guys truly don't know what this means for me, or what it means that you all took the time to encourage me. I'd like to keep this thread active if it's okay to the admins to report progress and have all of you be my accountability partner. - Peter

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Oh and okay, if anyone was wondering. It doesn't matter which browser I use on my system; it doesn't let me download any other browser, and each browser works the same with this DIVINE unalterable filtering.

What did I do to deserve this fathomless love of Jesus. :)
 
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Maybe you should tell your wife about how lost and empty you feel . Maybe your inappropriate content problems are a mask for depression or relationship issues. I’d see a relationship counselor or a therapist to deal with your feelings. inappropriate content is a dysfunctional exploitive way to deal with a normal feeling. Men have trouble with normal feelings about relationships because of the dysfunctional unemotional way we raise our boys . I’d do that before I’d start screaming about demons and throwing my hands in the air like this is The Unsolvable Problem(TM).
It is really not an insoluble problem unless you refuse to deal with the cause. There really are evil spirits and they really do lock people up in sin. It is not the only aspect of the problem, but it sure releases the individual from a major bondage. Do you think evil spirits and other satanic forces just gave up when Jesus rose from the dead? I wish.

I am a Bible teacher and we have a counselling ministry as well. I've seen the transformation when people are delivered and I've experienced it myself. This theory that we need to get young men to be more emotionally expressive is bunk. All that does is remove the restraint of reason and logic that moderates men's behaviour. When men get emotional, someone is likely to get hurt. Don't believe me? Check out the domestic violence figures. It's appalling.
 
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Last night, my wife told me she is such a sucker because she stays with me even though I have inappropriate content addiction. I want to be rid of my addiction once and for all.

But when I stop, there will be a huge vacuum and sense of loneliness. I always have loneliness anyways as I wish I had a sister; I know, an odd thing for me.

I want to be rid of all loneliness and inappropriate content addictions and I want Jesus Christ to be my all in all and always ever satisfying. I have tried programs, Bible studies, prayer, Steps to Freedom in Christ, you name it - I've done it.

Please pray for me ... I don't want my wife to feel like she is that sucker ... :(

One thing that really helped me overcome this problem was that I bought a lot of pictures of Jesus and put them on my walls in every room. Also I put Jesus pictures on my phone and PC wallpaper as reminders to help me to keep my focus on him. This worked out really well for me. Hope this helps.
 
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Oh and okay, if anyone was wondering. It doesn't matter which browser I use on my system; it doesn't let me download any other browser, and each browser works the same with this DIVINE unalterable filtering.

What did I do to deserve this fathomless love of Jesus. :)

This is great news, PeterJames! Only by eliminating your access to your substance will you be able to resist it.

Now, what about your phone? Get a flip phone. Are there any other avenues you can access inappropriate content? Have someone else do the church bulletin since it places you in a need to try to defeat your DIVINE given filter.

Replace your inappropriate content time with us-time with your wife.
My wife and I have had the most wonderful past two days.

Yes! Hallelujah!!! Spend at least 15 hours of time with undivided attention together every week and it will renew and restore your relationship and help you replace your inappropriate content habit. It will also cause the two of you fall back into romantic love with each other.
 
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It will also cause the two of you fall back into romantic love with each other.

Being in love is similar to an addiction. Being romantically in love with your wife is a very healthy replacement for your inappropriate content addiction.
 
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If you touch properly, you will be fine (within reason).

Spouses should never engage in sexual experiences that exclude the other. Save all of your sexual experiences for your wife, particularly as you are overcoming this addiction.
 
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It is really not an insoluble problem unless you refuse to deal with the cause. There really are evil spirits and they really do lock people up in sin. It is not the only aspect of the problem, but it sure releases the individual from a major bondage. Do you think evil spirits and other satanic forces just gave up when Jesus rose from the dead? I wish.

I am a Bible teacher and we have a counselling ministry as well. I've seen the transformation when people are delivered and I've experienced it myself. This theory that we need to get young men to be more emotionally expressive is bunk. All that does is remove the restraint of reason and logic that moderates men's behaviour. When men get emotional, someone is likely to get hurt. Don't believe me? Check out the domestic violence figures. It's appalling.

I won't totally discount the evil spirit thing; I think their power, though, comes from lying, deception, manipulation, and fear tactics based on problems already in the believer's life. I think they can pick at weaknesses and exploit armor chinks.

The one thing that has helped clear the cobwebs but which I didn't really keep up with is Neil Anderson's Freedom in Christ ministries steps to Freedom in Christ. It's not a cure all, but it definitely can clear out clutter that might be caused by demons.

Thank you for the encouragement.
 
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This is great news, PeterJames! Only by eliminating your access to your substance will you be able to resist it.

Now, what about your phone? Get a flip phone. Are there any other avenues you can access inappropriate content? Have someone else do the church bulletin since it places you in a need to try to defeat your DIVINE given filter.

Again, Endeavourer, I can't thank you enough for your encouraging words. And I'm so glad the Lord is seeing fit to work in my life in a way I never dreamed of. My phone is slow, but you are right. It can still access inappropriate content. I need to remedy that right away.

My wife does the church bulletin. I handle the church website; I may invoke the help of my son for that one. I upload the sermon every week on the church website and make changes here and there.


Replace your inappropriate content time with us-time with your wife.

Yes! Hallelujah!!! Spend at least 15 hours of time with undivided attention together every week and it will renew and restore your relationship and help you replace your inappropriate content habit. It will also cause the two of you fall back into romantic love with each other.

Thank you again; we have lunch together almost everyday and then we are home at night with each other. :) I will hold her close to me every day. :)

- Peter
 
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