What did the Early Church Fathers write about the return of Christ during 70 AD?

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Psalm 110
The Priestly King

A Davidic psalm.
1 This is the declaration of the Lord
to my Lord:
Sit at My right hand
until I make Your enemies Your footstool
.” over Your surrounding enemies.
4 The Lord has sworn an oath and will not take it back:
“Forever, You are a priest
like Melchizedek.”

5 The Lord is at Your right hand;
He will crush kings on the day of His anger.
6 He will judge the nations
, heaping up corpses;
He will crush leaders over the entire world.
7 He will drink from the brook by the road;
therefore, He will lift up His head.
 
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He wasn't in or around Jerusalem in 70AD.......He was born in Smyrna......
So that still leaves only Josephus as a witness............

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Polycarp (/ˈpɒlikɑːrp/; Greek: Πολύκαρπος, Polýkarpos; Latin: Polycarpus; AD 69 – 155) was a 2nd-century Christian bishop of Smyrna.[1] According to the Martyrdom of Polycarp he died a martyr, bound and burned at the stake, then stabbed when the fire failed to consume his body.[2] Polycarp is regarded as a saint and Church Father in the Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Catholic, Anglican, and Lutheran churches. His name 'Polycarp' means 'much fruit' in Greek.

Josephus

Josephus never said he saw Christ during 70 AD.
Josephus never said anyone else saw Christ during 70 AD.


I actually read Holford's book. He never said anyone saw Christ during 70 AD.

Holford does not deal with Luke 21:25-28 in his book.

Christ remained seated at the Father's right hand during 70 AD, while the Romans were allowed to destroy the city of Jerusalem, in the same way the Babylonians had destroyed it during the time of Daniel.

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Psalm 110
The Priestly King

A Davidic psalm.
1 This is the declaration of the Lord
to my Lord:
Sit at My right hand
until I make Your enemies Your footstool
.” over Your surrounding enemies.
4 The Lord has sworn an oath and will not take it back:
“Forever, You are a priest
like Melchizedek.”

5 The Lord is at Your right hand;
He will crush kings on the day of His anger.
6 He will judge the nations
, heaping up corpses;
He will crush leaders over the entire world.
7 He will drink from the brook by the road;
therefore, He will lift up His head.

The Jewish leadership, who condemned Christ to die, will see Christ returning on the clouds at the event found below.
It did not occur during 70 AD.



Matthew 12:42

(CJB) The Queen of the South will stand up at the Judgment with this generation and condemn it, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Shlomo, but what is here now is greater than Shlomo.

(ESV) The queen of the South will rise up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon, and behold, something greater than Solomon is here.

(Geneva) The Queene of the South shall rise in iudgement with this generation, and shall condemne it: for she came from the vtmost partes of the earth to heare the wisdome of Solomon: and beholde, a greater then Solomon is here.

(Greek NT TR) βασιλισσα νοτου εγερθησεται εν τη κρισει μετα της γενεας ταυτης και κατακρινει αυτην οτι ηλθεν εκ των περατων της γης ακουσαι την σοφιαν σολομωντος και ιδου πλειον σολομωντος ωδε

(GW) The queen from the south will stand up at the time of judgment with you. She will condemn you, because she came from the ends of the earth to hear Solomon's wisdom. But look, someone greater than Solomon is here!

(LITV-TSP) The queen of the south will be raised in the Judgment with this generation and will condemn it. For she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon, and, behold, a Greater-than-Solomon is here.

(KJV) The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.

(KJV+) The queenG938 of the southG3558 shall rise upG1453 inG1722 theG3588 judgmentG2920 withG3326 thisG5026 generation,G1074 andG2532 shall condemnG2632 it:G846 forG3754 she cameG2064 fromG1537 theG3588 uttermost partsG4009 of theG3588 earthG1093 to hearG191 theG3588 wisdomG4678 of Solomon;G4672 and,G2532 behold,G2400 a greaterG4119 than SolomonG4672 is here.G5602

(NKJV) The queen of the South will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and indeed a greater than Solomon is here.

(NLT) The queen of Sheba will also stand up against this generation on judgment day and condemn it, for she came from a distant land to hear the wisdom of Solomon. Now someone greater than Solomon is here—but you refuse to listen.

(YLT) 'A queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon, and lo, a greater than Solomon here!



Former Full-Preterist Sam Frost speaks on the resurrection from the dead.
The judgment of the dead found above in Matthew 12:42 occurs at the future resurrection of the dead.



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Were any them there before or during 70AD as Josephus was?

Josephus and Luke 21:11 "fearful signs in heaven/sky" 1st century pre 70AD
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Here is an early century historian........

Early writing by Eusebius..........
Eusebius of Caesarea
Bishop of Caesarea in Palestine
(263 - 339)


"One of the best known and most accessible of the ancient preterists"

"The members of the Jerusalem church by means of an oracle, given by revelation to acceptable persons there, were ordered to leave the city before the war began and settle in a town in Peraea called Pella." (III, 5:4)

(On Acts 1:11)
"But if, on the other hand, we can see the people of Egypt far more patently in actual fact than in mere description, some of them acknowledging the God of the prophets, and for His sake renouncing their ancestral gods, some of them raising political dissension against the converts, some of them even now calling upon their gods and images and them that speak from the ground, who no longer can effect aught, and some throughout all Egypt raising an altar to the Lord of the prophets for each local Church, calling no (d) longer in their troubles and persecutions on beasts or reptiles as their gods, nor on wild animals and unreasoning brutes as their fathers did, but on the Supreme God, retaining Him only and the fear of Him in their minds, praying to Him, and not to the daemons, and promising what men should promise God—how can we deny that the prophecies of long ago have at last been fulfilled? And these foretold that the Lord would come to Egypt not in an unembodied state, but in a light cloud, or better "in light thickness," for such is the meaning of the Hebrew, shewing figuratively His Incarnate state. Therefore the prophecy goes on to call Him a man that is a Saviour, saying, "And (415) the Lord shall send to them a man that is a Saviour." Here again the Hebrew is, "And He shall send to them a Saviour, who shall save them." As the proof is now so clear from this, I consider that there is no question of the time at which the prophecies foretold the Lord's Coming."

(On Fulfillment of Prophecies)
"For as it establishes Christianity on the basis of antecedent prophecies, so it establishes Judaism from the complete fulfillment of its prophecies." (Proof of the Gospel, Twin Brooks Series, I, p.5)

(On the Seventy Weeks)
"And all these things were fulfilled when the seventy weeks were completed at the date of our Saviour's Coming
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The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
Proof that Matthew 24 was fully fulfilled in 70 AD!
Also see:
Rapture refuted

In executing the command of Titus, relative to the demolition of Jerusalem, the Roman soldiers not only threw down the buildings, but even dug up their foundations, and so completely levelled the whole circuit of the city, that a stranger would scarcely have known that it had ever been inhabited by human beings. Thus was this great City, which only five months before, had been crowded with nearly two millions of people, who gloried in its impregnable strength, entirely depopulated, and levelled with the ground. And thus, also was our LORD'S prediction, that her enemies should "lay her even with the ground," and "should not leave in her one stone upon another, " (Luke xix. 44.) most strikingly and fully accomplished ! --

This fact is confirmed by Eusebius, who asserts that he himself saw the city lying in ruins ; and Josephus introduces Eleazer as exclaiming "Where is our great city, which, it was believed, GOD inhabited ? It is altogether rooted and torn up from its foundations ; and the only monument of it that remains, is the camp of its destroyers pitched amidst its reliques !"
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Revelation 18:
4 And I heard another Voice out of the heaven, saying, "Come forth out of Her My people! that ye should not be joint partakers<4790> Her sins, and out of the blows/stripes<4127> of Her that no ye may be receiving.

16 and saying,
Woe! woe! the great City, that was having been arrayed<4016> with
fine linen,<1039> and purple,<4210> [Luke 16:19/Revelation 18:12]
and scarlet,<2847> and have been gilded<5558> in gold <5553> and precious<2093> stone and pearls<3135>
That to one hour was desolated<2049> the so much riches.
18 And they cried<2896>, observing the smoke of Her firing<4451>, saying, "What like to the great City?"
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Early Church Fathers on the Apocalypse
Irenaeus. Adv. Haer. 5.30-35
Justin Martyr Dial. 80-81
Eusebius Hist. Eccl. 3.13.1-3.18.4 (The Emperor Domitian and John of Patmos, called here "the Evangelist")
Eusebius Hist. Eccl. 3.24.17-3.25.7 (Revelation and the NT Canon)
Eusebius Hist. Eccl. 3.39.1-12 (Papias)
Eusebius Hist. Eccl. 7.24-25 (Dionysius of Alexandria on Nepos's interpretation of the Apocalypse and on the authorship of the Apocalypse)
Tertullian Adv. Marc. 3.25 (vision of the New Jerusalem)
Lactantius Div. Inst. 7.24-26
Commodianus Inst. 41 (the time of the Antichrist)
Clement Paed. 2.13 (on jewelry and the Heavenly Jerusalem)
Origen De Princ. 2.11.2-3 (spiritual vs. physical pleasures in the New Jerusalem)

Augustine Civ. Dei 20.7-17
Do you consider Josephus a prophet ? or a church historian ?
He was neither
 
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..Hyper Preterism, like any other form of hyper theology, is not the prevalent view of the return of Christ. The majority of Preterists, are partial, who still await the "Day of the Lord" described by the five early church fathers .
 
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..Hyper Preterism, like any other form of hyper theology, is not the prevalent view of the return of Christ. The majority of Preterists, are partial, who still await the "Day of the Lord" described by the five early church fathers .
The idea of preterism in of itself whether partial or not does not align with scripture and the descriptions of the coming of the Lord. "Every eye shall see him coming the clouds" is the key concept that debunks this false doctrine.

One testimony of one fellow named Josephus, or any other man for that matter, isn't enough evidence to base an entire doctrine on, and those who do believe this doctrine will end up misleading others because they themselves are deceived to begin with.

The Bible is clear that it will be known by all when Christ comes back. He hasn't come back yet; if there's doubt about his return, then he hasn't come back. There can be no doubt when the sun turns to black, the moon turns to blood red, the stars of heaven fall to the earth and he comes in the glory of his Father in the heavens when every eye shall see him and all tribes of the earth mourn because of him. That's not an event that allows any room for doubt.
 
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The idea of preterism in of itself whether partial or not does not align with scripture and the descriptions of the coming of the Lord. "Every eye shall see him coming the clouds" is the key concept that debunks this false doctrine.

One testimony of one fellow named Josephus, or any other man for that matter, isn't enough evidence to base an entire doctrine on, and those who do believe this doctrine will end up misleading others because they themselves are deceived to begin with.

The Bible is clear that it will be known by all when Christ comes back. He hasn't come back yet; if there's doubt about his return, then he hasn't come back. There can be no doubt when the sun turns to black, the moon turns to blood red, the stars of heaven fall to the earth and he comes in the glory of his Father in the heavens when every eye shall see him and all tribes of the earth mourn because of him. That's not an event that allows any room for doubt.
To be a Partial Preterist is to believe that some prophecies in the Bible have already been fulfilled. We can all agree on that!
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The Jewish leadership, who condemned Christ to die, will see Christ returning on the clouds at the event found below.
It did not occur during 70 AD.
You're changing Scripture to fit your doctrine. The passages do not state "returning on the clouds" that's your own bias revealed in how you're reading.

When Caiphus, the high priest, asked Jesus,
"Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?" He responded with:

Mark 14:62 - “I am,” said Jesus, “and you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming with the clouds of heaven.”​
 
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The idea of preterism in of itself whether partial or not does not align with scripture and the descriptions of the coming of the Lord. "Every eye shall see him coming the clouds" is the key concept that debunks this false doctrine.
Preterism simply means "past". All of Scripture is pointing to the revelation of Christ Jesus, the Messiah. If the claim is made that any degree of preterism does not align with Scripture, then that would have to include the past fullfillment of the first advent of the Messiah.

IOW - all Christians are preterists. We only vary by degree. Sorry to bear bad news. I'd suggest learning about Hebrew literature in the Old Testament. We can't understand the New Testament without an understanding of the Old from an ancient Hebrew literary view (because that's the perspective it's written from).
 
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Preterism simply means "past". All of Scripture is pointing to the revelation of Christ Jesus, the Messiah. If the claim is made that any degree of preterism does not align with Scripture, then that would have to include the past fullfillment of the first advent of the Messiah.

IOW - all Christians are preterists. We only vary by degree Sorry to bear bad news. I'd suggest learning about Hebrew literature in the old testament. We can't understand the new testament without an understanding of the old from an ancient Hebrew literary view (because that's the perspective it's written from).
I'm specifically speaking about the return of Christ in which the preterist view is to say that has already happened.
 
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You're changing Scripture to fit your doctrine. The passages do not state "returning on the clouds" that's your own bias revealed in how you're reading.

When Caiphus, the high priest, asked Jesus,
"Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?" He responded with:

Mark 14:62 - “I am,” said Jesus, “and you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming with the clouds of heaven.”​

Act 1:11 “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why are you standing here staring into heaven? Jesus has been taken from you into heaven, but someday he will return from heaven in the same way you saw him go!”
NLT


Did Ciaphus see Jesus coming on the clouds during 70 AD, or was Ciaphus already dead by that point in time?


Caiaphas - Wikipedia



If Ciaphus was dead during 70 AD, when will Ciaphus see Christ coming on the clouds?
See Matthew 12:42 for the answer.



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The majority of Preterists, are partial, who still await the "Day of the Lord" described by the five early church fathers .

I've got to say that that is very kind of them!
 
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I'm specifically speaking about the return of Christ in which the preterist view is to say that has already happened.
You're misunderstanding. The early church fathers - preterists - believed that the destruction of the Temple and ancient Jerusalem was a *sign* of the fulfillment of prophecy (specifically Daniel's prophecy).

"The coming of the Son of Man" is NOT "His return". It doesn't have to do with a final judgement or a final resurrection. It was a judgement against the group (nation or generation) of apostate Israelites. It was a judgement against the Temple system that had become corrupt.

Look at Jesus' words in response to Caiaphus's question about whether or not He is the Son of the blessed One:

Mark 14:62 ~ "I am," said Jesus, "and you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power and coming with the clouds of heaven."


Luke 22:69 ~ "But from now on the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the power of God."

I believe this is best described as Christ taking His rightful place on the throne of David (what had been anticipated - in fulfillment of Daniel's prophecy).

This article does and excellent job (I believe) of portraying a bigger picture and the layers of struggle in what was going on in ancient Jerusalem even before Jesus was born:

Timeline of Jerusalem (taken from That the World May Know)


Approx. 2,000 BC: Abraham was sent to the Moriah area to sacrifice Isaac. Jerusalem was later built on the mountain named Moriah.

Approx. 1,000 BC: David captured the Canaanite city of Jebus (2 Sam. 5:6-7) and named it the City of David, which he made his capital (1 Chron. 11:7). He selected the temple site on Mount Moriah, where he built an altar.

Approx. 950 BC: Solomon built the temple on the Mount Moriah site chosen by David. After the Ark of the Covenant, the resting place of God's presence, was moved into the temple, the people prayed for God's presence, and God sent fire to consume their sacrifice (2 Chron. 7:1-3).

586 BC: The Babylonians destroyed the temple and took many Israelites captive.

Approx. 500 BC: Cyrus, the king of Persia, decreed that the Israelites could return to Jerusalem. Under Ezra and Nehemiah's leadership, the temple was rebuilt. Since there was no Ark of the Covenant, the Holy of Holies was left empty. The Jews rejoiced when the Torah was read (Neh. 8:17).

322 BC: Jerusalem became part of Alexander the Great's empire. Antiochus, king of the Syrians, outlawed the Sabbath, circumcision, and study of the Torah. He defiled the altar by sacrificing pigs on it.

165 BC: The Maccabean revolt against the Greek army brought Jerusalem under Jewish control once again and the menorah was re-lit. Descendants of the Maccabees expanded the Temple Mount.

63 BC:The Romans took control of Judea.

37-4 BC:Herod the Great, the Roman king of Israel, lavishly expanded the Temple Mount.

Approx. AD 30: The Sadducees had Jesus crucified. The Holy Spirit came to the disciples in the temple courts, and the veil in front of the Holy of Holies tore from top to bottom, symbolizing that all believers now had access to God's presence through Jesus.

AD 44: Herod Agrippa, grandson of Herod the Great, died. Rebel Jews began to kill Romans and Jews who cooperated with Rome. Roman governors became increasingly cruel, and the temple priesthood became more corrupt as they looked to Romans for security and support.

AD 66: A Gentile offered a "pagan" sacrifice next to the synagogue in Caesarea. Jerusalem authorities decided to end all sacrifices and allowed Roman troops to raid the temple treasury.

When the Jews protested, Florus, the Rome-appointed governor, sent troops who killed innocent civilians. This sparked a Jewish revolt that pushed the Roman troops out of Jerusalem. When the Romans in Caesarea heard what happened, they slaughtered 20,000 Jews in a day's time.

AD 68: Ultra-nationalistic Jews (Zealots) appointed their own temple priest and slaughtered the Sadducee priests who resisted.

AD 70: Roman troops destroyed Jerusalem and burned the temple. Over a million Jews were executed, sold into slavery, or captured for games in the arena.

AD 131: A second Jewish revolt began.

AD 135: Rome squashed the second revolt and outlawed the Jewish religion. The Jews became a people without a country.

~ Temple Events

The Jewish Revolts: THE REVOLT BEGINS While Christians and Jews were thrown to the wild animals by the emperor Nero in Rome, violence flared in Judea. In Caesarea, a conflict between Jews and Gentiles over activities next to the synagogue had been brewing for some time. In AD 66, on the Sabbath day, a Gentile offered a pagan sacrifice next to the entrance to the synagogue. There was an outcry from the citizens of Caesarea. The authorities in Jerusalem decided to end all foreign sacrifices, including the one for Caesar himself, in the Temple. Florus the governor, who lived in Caesarea, came to Jerusalem with troops, entered the Temple treasury, and took a large amount of gold. When people gathered to protest, Florus unleashed his legionnaires on innocent civilians of the city. The Jewish Revolts

 
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mkgal said:
You're changing Scripture to fit your doctrine. The passages do not state "returning on the clouds" that's your own bias revealed in how you're reading.

When Caiphus, the high priest, asked Jesus,
"Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?" He responded with:

Mark 14:62 - “I am,” said Jesus, “and you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming with the clouds of heaven.”



Act 1:11 “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why are you standing here staring into heaven? Jesus has been taken from you into heaven, but someday he will return from heaven in the same way you saw him go!” NLT


Did Ciaphus see Jesus coming on the clouds during 70 AD, or was Ciaphus already dead by that point in time?


Caiaphas - Wikipedia


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We aren't discussing Acts 1.

Are you suggesting Jesus was lying?


Perhaps it'd be more prudent to attempt to, instead, understand what Jesus was suggesting.

Where does it happen that Jesus is "sitting at the right hand of power"? What power is He speaking of? Heavenly - Godly power? This entire conversation between Caiaphas and Jesus was a power struggle. It was a standoff - about who (rightfully) represented God. Caiaphas believed - as High Priest - that it was he that had authority......and that is why he charged Christ Jesus with blasphemy. But Christ's mission didn't end with His death (like a lot of other "messiah's" that had come at that time. Christ defeated death. Christ Jesus also proved Caiaphas wrong. Caiaphas (and the entire Levitical priesthood) had their kingdom taken from them and Christ Jesus is now both High Priest and King sitting on David's throne forever (a change in the priestly law - in the order of Melchizedek).

This was fulfilled as Christ Jesus had predicted in the parable He told:

Matthew 21:33-45 ~ “Hear another parable: There was a certain landowner who planted a vineyard and set a hedge around it, dug a winepress in it and built a tower. And he leased it to vinedressers and went into a far country. 34 Now when vintage-time drew near, he sent his servants to the vinedressers, that they might receive its fruit. 35 And the vinedressers took his servants, beat one, killed one, and stoned another. 36 Again he sent other servants, more than the first, and they did likewise to them. 37 Then last of all he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 38 But when the vinedressers saw the son, they said among themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.’ 39 So they took him and cast him out of the vineyard and killed him.

40 “Therefore, when the lord of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vinedressers?”

41 They said to Him, “He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers who will render to him the fruits in their seasons.”

42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:

‘The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone.
This was the Lord’s doing,
And it is marvelous in our eyes’?

43 “Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it. 44 And whoever falls on this stone will be broken; but on whomever it falls, it will grind him to powder.”

45 Now when the chief priests and Pharisees heard His parables, they understood that He was speaking of them.

40 “Therefore, when the lord of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vinedressers?”

41 They said to Him, “He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers who will render to him the fruits in their seasons.”

42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:

‘The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone.
This was the Lord’s doing,
And it is marvelous in our eyes’?

43 “Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it. 44 And whoever falls on this stone will be broken; but on whomever it falls, it will grind him to powder.”

45 Now when the chief priests and Pharisees heard His parables, they understood that He was speaking of them.
 
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Are you suggesting Jesus was lying?

My understanding of the text does not produce that problem, since Ciaphus will see Christ coming on the clouds in the future judgment described in Matthew 12:42.

However, you may want to consider the question above in comparison of your claims about 70 AD.


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Former Full-Preterist Sam Frost speaks on the resurrection from the dead.
The judgment of the dead found above in Matthew 12:42 occurs at the future resurrection of the dead.
"The coming of the Son of Man" does not have to do with final resurrection (so Frost's video is not relevant to the topic).

Matthew 12:42 is ALSO not about the final resurrection.
 
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My understanding of the text does not produce that problem, since Ciaphus will see Christ coming on the clouds in the future judgment described in Matthew 12:42.

However, you may want to consider the question above in comparison of your claims about 70 AD.


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If you're going to place the fulfillment of Jesus' words - that have been recorded in response to Caiaphas - off in the future, then you're removing Him (in your mind, of course) from the right hand of power that He had already claimed to His disciples after His resurrection:

Matthew 28:18 ~ Then Jesus came near and said to them, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
 
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Quoting from Adam Maarschalk's series:
Preterists and Futurists alike agree that Daniel does foretell Jerusalem’s destruction, if nowhere else, then at least in his pivotal 70-Weeks prophecy (Daniel 9:26b). Preterists would maintain that the “time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time” (Daniel 12:1) also refers to 67-70 AD, as does the reference to “a time, times, and half a time” (verse 7),[4] and the reference to the regular burnt offering being taken away (Daniel 8:11-14, 12:11). Regarding this offering, Philip Mauro quotes the following from Josephus to show that it was taken away at the very end of the final siege on Jerusalem, i.e. late July 70 AD (Todd Dennis [21], 2009):

And now Titus gave orders to his soldiers that were with him to dig up the foundations of the tower of Antonia, and make a ready passage for his army to come up, while he himself had Josephus brought to him; for he had been informed that, on that very day, which was the seventeenth day of Panemus, the sacrifice called ‘the daily sacrifice’ had failed, and had not been offered to God for want of men to offer it; and that the people were grievously troubled at it (Wars, VI. 2.1.).[5]

~ Daniel – Pursuing Truth
 
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