How can one respond to the scientific facts known in the Quran?
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That's a strong statement, verging on the offensive. In my experience, it's false - I know a number of Muslims that are thoughtful and intelligent, and independent thinkers in many respects - as well as being solidly committed to their faith.
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That’s actually a true statement when Muslims actually start becoming more intelligent, they start becoming more liberal in theology, moving in directions that Islam considers heresy or bida’ you may look no further then Shabir Ally. One cannot actively question and use your mind and remain in Orthodox Islam. Orthodox Islam even condemned rationalist thinking in interpreting the Quran and Sunnah, you may look no further then the disputes between Ahmed Ibn Hanbal and the Mu’tazilites. Also please define “solidly committed to their faith.” As that can have many meanings.
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You appear to be defining intelligence in terms of how liberal their belief system is, which is... unorthodox. If someone changes from a more liberal theology to a less liberal one, would you say their intelligence has decreased?
People are adept at compartmentalizing different aspects of their lives. Many intelligent people have dogmatic religious beliefs that are nonsensical or antithetical to those of other intelligent people who may have their own irrational beliefs. That someone has a belief system that they hold above question doesn't make them unthinking or stupid in other respects.
They give every appearance of closely following the tenets & requirements of their particular faith. Of course, I'm no expert; it's possible, though it seems unlikely, that they are putting a lot of effort into a pretence for some reason.
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What I’m claiming that the more intelligent Muslims become the more liberal they become and then finally they end up leaving once they realize their belief system can’t be reconciled with their intellect or personal views. Also if someone changes to a more conservative (Orthodox) view point of their belief I’d claim they’re intelligence decreased based on how logical their belief system is.
Having an illogical ideology as a religion and holding it as absolute truth without questioning, either means one of two, religiously that person is unthinking and unquestioning or willfully deciding himself and others. Keep in mind what I said I didn’t say all Muslims are stupid, I said anyone religiously knowledgeable or asks the right questions unbiasedly cant remain Muslim anymore. Most Islamic scholars themselves only belong to one of two groups extremists and hardliners who willfully deceive people and liberal scholars who are a growing minority.
Having the appearance of closely following the daily prayers and fasting Ramadan is basic, it’s like going to Church on Sunday for a Christian, it doesn’t necessarily make him a strong believer. Also in Islam doing the basics is required to be a Muslim otherwise your an apostate, not to mention most Muslims do it because of family and social traditions, not because of anything else.
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