Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
Revelation 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
If they are the same events, this would indicate only one 42 month period in view here. If they are not the same, this would indicate two 42 month periods in view here, IOW 7 years total.
Between these two verses we see the following.
Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
We know without a doubt, or at least should if we don't, Revelation 12:14 is meaning after Revelation 12:7-13. In order for Revelation 12:6 to be the same event as Revelation 12:14, this, too, requires that Revelation 12:6 is meaning after Revelation 12:7-13. With all of this in mind, are Revelation 12:6 & Revelation 12:14 the same events, or two totally different events, where one takes place before satan is cast to the earth, and the other takes place after satan is cast to the earth?
We also have to keep in mind that Revelation 12:6 is after Revelation 12:4-5. And if Revelation 12:6 & Revelation 12:14 are the same events, this means the war in heaven has already taken place, and that satan has already been cast unto the earth(Revelation 12:13) when Revelation 12:4-5 are fulfilled.
With all of this in mind, so once again, are Revelation 12:6 & Revelation 12:14 the same events, or two entirely different events?
A preterist view from a 1st century fulfillment view.............
Pella Flight Tradition – The Preterist Archive of Realized Eschatology
This our Lord indicated in
Matthew 24:13 when He said, ‘he that endures to the end shall be saved.’ The end that He had spoken of was the end of Jerusalem.
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Revelation 12: A Preterist Commentary - Revelation Revolution
Revelation 12:6 Commentary: The Christians of Jerusalem Fled to Pella and were Presumably Kept Safe for 1,260 days.
The woman Virgo symbolizes the kingdom of God. On earth, she is also represented by the Christian church. According to the early church historian Eusebius, the Christian church received an oracle concerning Jerusalem’s destruction, and many Jewish Christians left the city before the start of the war. These refugees fled to the city of Pella.
10 Pella is in Perea which according to Jospehus in
Wars of the Jews, “the greater part of it [Perea] is desert and rough.”
11 The fact that the woman flees to the wilderness in v.6 seems an appropriate description of a region said to be mostly desert.
As previously indicated, the seven trumpets and bowls represent different plagues of Exodus. The fact that the woman flees to the wilderness in v. 6 is another Exodus motif. According to Hebrews 3:10-11 and Psalm 95:10-11, the former Hebrew slaves wandered in the wilderness during the exodus for forty years before their children entered Israel–the promised rest. In Hebrews 3-4, Paul likens the forty-year interval in which the Hebrew slaves wandered in the desert and the subsequent rest their offspring received in the promised land to the life of the Christian saints on earth as they await the resurrection—the promised rest of the saints. Interestingly, there were approximately forty years from the start of Jesus’ earthly ministry to the start of the siege of Jerusalem and the resurrection of the dead. I believe Jesus began His ministry around Tishri of A.D. 29. See
Daniel 9:24-27 Commentary: Daniel 9 Miraculously Fulfilled! The siege of Jerusalem and the resurrection of the dead began around Nisan of A.D. 70. See
Preterism, the Rapture and the Resurrection. This is an interval of forty years and six months. In other words, Christianity was forty years old by the time of the resurrection—when the Christian saints wandering in the wilderness finally received their promised rest. Is this a coincidence?
Though the exact time of their departure is not known, I believe that, except for the two witnesses, the last of the Christians to flee Jerusalem did so around the time of the Feast of Tabernacles in A.D. 66 when Cestius arrived outside of Jerusalem with the 12th Legion, led a brief assault and then abruptly departed.
12 See
Matthew 24 Commentary: THAT Generation Shall Not Pass. In A.D. 70 the Romans returned to the city with a much larger army. On Passover of that year–1,260 days or 42 months later—they began their siege of the city. At the very beginning of this siege, the two witnesses were killed. See
Revelation 11: A Preterist Commentary–Who are the Two Witnesses?
These two witnesses were Christian and thus should be represented by the woman of Revelation 12:6. Could there have been 1260 days from the final departure of the Christians of Jerusalem until the death of the two witnesses? Josephus tells us that the two witnesses were killed at the start of the siege of Jerusalem. Assuming that the two witnesses died sometime around the Passover celebration when the Romans began their attack and assuming that the last of the Christian saints fled the city sometime around the Feast of Tabernacles of A.D. 66, then perhaps there were 1260 days between the departure of the Christian refugees to the death of the two witnesses corresponding with the time in which the woman representing the Christian saints was kept safe according to Revelation 12:6?
There were 354 days per year in the Jewish lunar calendar used by first century Jews. Approximately every three years, an additional month of 29 or 30 days was inserted into the calendar year to prevent seasonal overlap. Assuming that an additional 29 day month was added sometime in the three and a half years between The Feast of Tabernacles of A.D. 66 and Passover of A.D. 70, then there would have been 1262 days from the 20th of Tishri, the end of the Feast of Tabernacles, of A.D. 66 to the 15th of Nisan, the start of Passover of A.D. 70 when the Romans began their final siege of Jerusalem.
13 Is this is the time in which the woman representing the Christian saints were kept safe in Revelation 12:6?
The time in which the woman is kept safe appears to be the same interval in which the two witnesses prophesied and the unfaithful Jews were permitted to remain in Jerusalem according to Revelation 11:2-3. All three events seem to correspond with the arrival of the Roman army in Jerusalem with Cestius in A.D. 66 during the Feast of Tabernacles until the Romans made their final assault on Jerusalem, three and a half years later. See
The Flight and Return of the Christians, like the Exile and Return of the Jews from Babylon, is an Earthly Reflection of the Resurrection.
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Revelation Fulfilled, An Exposition, Interpretation and Commentary of Revelation 12:14: The Saints are Kept Safe for “a Time, Times and Half a Time” in Pella.
Like the Jews in Exodus 19:4, the Jewish Christians in v. 14 are carried on eagles’ wings to the desert away from danger. “[T]aken care of for a time, times and half a time,” these Jewish Christians were kept safe while Israel was afflicted with the plagues of Exodus mentioned earlier in
Revelation 8: A Preterist Commentary and
Revelation 9: A Preterist Commentary–Who is Apollyon?
“[A] time, times and half a time” is a cryptic reference to a period of three and a half years. This three and a half year timeframe is mentioned several times throughout the Book of Revelation. It is the “1260 days” in v. 6 and
Revelation 11:3. It is also the “42 months” of
Revelation 11:2. In all these cases, this is the interval between the arrival of the Roman army under Cestius at Jerusalem during the Feast of Tabernacles in A.D. 66 to the siege of Jerusalem in Passover of A.D. 70—exactly three and a half years later. It might also be noted that this three and a half year period may also correspond with the arrival of Titus and Vespasian in the early spring of A.D. 67 to the fall of Jerusalem in September of A.D. 70, three and a half years later.
15Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent. 16But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.
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Source: http://www.simonsebagmontefiore.com/j... First Jewish Revolt, (ad 66–70), Jewish rebellion against Roman rule in Judaea. The First Jewish Revolt was the result of a long series of clashes in which small groups of Jews offered sporadic resistance to the Romans, who in turn responded with severe countermeasures. In the fall of ad 66 the Jews combined in revolt, expelled the Romans from Jerusalem, and overwhelmed in the pass of Beth-Horon a Roman punitive force under Gallus, the imperial legate in Syria. A revolutionary government was then set up and extended its influence throughout the whole country. Vespasian was dispatched by the Roman emperor Nero to crush the rebellion. He was joined by Titus, and together the Roman armies entered Galilee, where the historian Josephus headed the Jewish forces. Josephus’ army was confronted by that of Vespasian and fled. After the fall of the fortress of Jatapata, Josephus gave himself up, and the Roman forces swept the country. On the 9th of the month of Av (August 29) in ad 70, Jerusalem fell; the Temple was burned, and the Jewish state collapsed, although the fortress of Masada was not conquered by the Roman general Flavius Silva until April 73. The Zealots and Sicarii overran the Roman military garrison from Jerusalem. This was a heartening victory for the Jewish people as support for the Zealots in the city grew. This sense of Jewish dominance over the Romans was short lived. By the year 67 CE, the Romans under Vespasian and Titus had taken back all of Judea and killed the Jewish rebels that were left. The Jewish strongholds of Jodapatha, after a 47 day siege, was now under Roman control. The Romans were on the march to Jerusalem. The perspective of the Jewish leaders in Jerusalem, mainly Sadducee Jerusalemites, had shifted dramatically from elation to panic. They knew that the revolt would not be a success for long, and they implored the Zealots to surrender peacefully in order to save as many Jewish lives as possible. The Zealots refused. They anticipated the insurrection that would have doubtless come if the more moderate Jewish leaders were listened to by the common person. As a result, the Zealots and the fanatical Sicarii publicly executed them and hung their dead bodies so that everyone could see the repercussions of preaching insurgent messages of peace. The moderate leaders in Jerusalem at the start of the revolution in 66 CE had all been killed by 68 CE, and not one by the hands of the Roman aggressors.The Zealots and the Sicarii retreated to the Temple. The Roman legion, after several attempts at breaching the walls, set fire to the Holy Temple. The site that once gave thousands of Jewish people hope was destroyed. God, it seemed, was no longer in the city. This was the most devastating Roman blow to Judaea. The rest of the city was plundered and burned to the ground soon after the Temple fell. The Romans crushed the remaining, beleaguered Jewish resistance. Jerusalem was under complete control of the Romans by September 70 CE. Christianity was birthed from this clash of civilizations
