I'm not alluding to anything nor am I implying anything.
Define "rape."
You totally mistook my stated position, and you seemed to have disregarded my follow-up attempt at clarification.
Its both perhaps.
Remember that Lot's daughters were married to husbands who were citizens of Sodom. Lot may have had righteous values, but we can't safely assume that his daughters and their husbands shared those values. According to the current values that existed in Sodom, the daughters may have been engaging in an act that would have been seen as quite acceptable, given that the values in that city would have been vastly different to what we could consider appropriate interaction today.
I don't really want clarification to be honest. I disagree with you from what I can see. You don't speak for me. There is not much beyond that.
The Bible is inspired. That doesn't mean it's advising you to imitate everything people do in it. You wouldn't read a text reporting what happened with the Holocaust or slavery and think that that text is telling you to do the same thing. It's the same with certain parts of the Bible. Sometimes we aren't told what God thought about certain things, because it's just describing what happened. Obviously rape and incest are wrong. Often times these things are even presented in the Bible so you can see how twisted people become because of their sin. The fact that Lots daughters would rape their own father shows just how bad of an influence Sodom was.
Some apocryphal accounts state that at the time of her betrothal to Joseph, Mary was 12–14 years old, and he was ninety years old. The Catholic church has beliefs about Mary that are different from the Protestant church.
The Bible contains archetypes. We have Abraham and he had Issac the child or promise and Ishmael the child that represents the flesh or carnal nature of man. Paul talks about this in Galatians.
20% of children have been evaluated for sexual abuse. This is a point to the doll and show me where he touched you evaluation. Clearly not everyone is investigated or evaluated. So the numbers could be as high as 1/3 of children have had some sort of sexual abuse. There is a question as to what is and what is not appropriate and I am sure there is very mild to very severe. From very brief to very long in duration. Could be every situation is different or maybe they all follow the same basic pattern. Police can investigate, the hospital can investigate and social services can investigate. If the abuse is reported to a family doctor then he will refer to the psychology debt of the local children hospital. My brother was actually the director of the psych dept for a while at our children's hospital. I have talked to him briefly about this subject but not a lot. This stuff is highly confidential and it is not something anyone talks about. There can be a $10,000 fine if the files are not handled properly. Because of some law that Clinton signed. When a doctor retires than pretty much everything has to be shredded. They have three months to transfer a copy to their new doctor and then they are gone.
Not everything in the Bible is good. In fact the English translations cover over a number of crassly inappropriate passages, and the Rabbis used to cover over their mouths while reading theses passages in public.
That doesn't sound correct for Jewish culture.
