SOWING TO BE HEALED?

Si_monfaith · Oct 6, 2019

If money has to be necessarily "sowed" in order to "reap" financial returns, is there something which is necessary to be "sowed" in order to "reap" complete physical healing?

Tolworth John · Oct 7, 2019

Si_monfaith said:
If money has to be necessarily "sowed" in order to "reap" financial returns, is there something which is necessary to be "sowed" in order to "reap" complete physical healing?

No this is not true in Christianity.
one does not 'give' to God inorder to gain a financial reward. That is not Christianity.

Simlarly one does not manipulate God through giving in order to gain healing or any other 'blessing'.

May I suggest you leave any church that is teaching this.

Si_monfaith · Oct 7, 2019

Tolworth John said:
No this is not true in Christianity.
one does not 'give' to God inorder to gain a financial reward. That is not Christianity.

Simlarly one does not manipulate God through giving in order to gain healing or any other 'blessing'.

May I suggest you leave any church that is teaching this.

Do only churches teach this?

Tolworth John · Oct 8, 2019

Si_monfaith said:
Do only churches teach this?

If they 'claim' to be Christian and teach this hjave nothing to do with them.
If they are not christian and are teaching this, why are you paying them any attention.

Si_monfaith · Oct 8, 2019

Tolworth John said:
If they 'claim' to be Christian and teach this hjave nothing to do with them.
If they are not christian and are teaching this, why are you paying them any attention.

Is there a difference between churches & ministries?

Tolworth John · Oct 9, 2019

Si_monfaith said:
Is there a difference between churches & ministries?

Wrong question.

Ask are they Christian?
Do they practise what they preach?

If the answer is no have nothing to do with them.

Si_monfaith · Oct 9, 2019

Tolworth John said:
Wrong question.

Ask are they Christian?
Do they practise what they preach?

If the answer is no have nothing to do with them.

Are there ministries which teach to sow money to gain financial returns?

Daniel Marsh · Oct 19, 2019

Si_monfaith said:
If money has to be necessarily "sowed" in order to "reap" financial returns, is there something which is necessary to be "sowed" in order to "reap" complete physical healing?

2 Kings 13:21 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
21 Some Israelites were burying a dead man when they saw that group of soldiers. The Israelites quickly threw the dead man into Elisha’s grave. As soon as the dead man touched the bones of Elisha, he came back to life and stood up on his feet.

What sowing did the dead man do?

Daniel Marsh · Oct 19, 2019

Si_monfaith said:
Do only churches teach this?

False Teachers do, regardless of where they are.

Daniel Marsh · Oct 19, 2019

Si_monfaith said:
Is there a difference between churches & ministries?

Yes and No, Some who have a ministry also pastor a church, while others do not pastor a church.

Daniel Marsh · Oct 19, 2019

Si_monfaith said:
Are there ministries which teach to sow money to gain financial returns?

The Didache states,

1. Whosoever then comes and teaches you all these things aforesaid, receive him.
2. But if the teacher himself be perverted and teach another doctrine to destroy these things, do not listen to him, but if his teaching be for the increase of righteousness and knowledge of the Lord, receive him as the Lord.
3. And concerning the Apostles and Prophets, act thus according to the ordinance of the Gospel.
4. Let every Apostle who comes to you be received as the Lord,
5. But let him not stay more than one day, or if need be a second as well; but if he stay three days, he is a false prophet.
6. And when an Apostle goes forth let him accept nothing but bread till he reach his night's lodging; but if he ask for money, he is a false prophet.
7. Do not test or examine any prophet who is speaking in a spirit, "for every sin shall be forgiven, but this sin shall not be forgiven."
8. But not everyone who speaks in a spirit is a prophet, except he have the behaviour of the Lord. From his behaviour, then, the false prophet and the true prophet shall be known.
9. And no prophet who orders a meal in a spirit shall eat of it: otherwise he is a false prophet.
10. And every prophet who teaches truth, if he do not what he teaches, is a false prophet.
11. But no prophet who has been tried and is genuine, though he enact a worldly mystery of the Church, if he teach not others to do what he does himself, shall be judged by you: for he has his judgment with God, for so also did the prophets of old.
12. But whosoever shall say in a spirit "Give me money, or something else," you shall not listen to him; but if he tell you to give on behalf of others in want, let none judge him.

Daniel Marsh · Oct 19, 2019

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hhodgson · Oct 20, 2019

Si_monfaith said:
If money has to be necessarily "sowed" in order to "reap" financial returns, is there something which is necessary to be "sowed" in order to "reap" complete physical healing?

It's more than just "sowing" and "reaping." It includes to also give, and it will be given.

LUKE 6:38, "Give, and it will be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you."

This verse reveals one of God's cardinal laws that will work in the spiritual realm, (as well), as the physical world. Just as we "give" seed into the ground to receive back multiple seeds, so it is with (everything) we give. Whether it's money, possessions, an emotion such as love or hate, prayers, or our time, we will reap a harvest of whatever we give. We reap exactly what we sow and proportional to the same measure that we give (Galatians 6:7-8).

Hmm... You already knew that, right?

I would suggest the rest of you get your mind renewed with these promises of God. I don't actually utilize in "getting to get" but, when you give... He definitely gives back!

Si_monfaith · Oct 20, 2019

hhodgson said:
It's more than just "sowing" and "reaping." It includes to also give, and it will be given.

LUKE 6:38, "Give, and it will be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you."

This verse reveals one of God's cardinal laws that will work in the spiritual realm, (as well), as the physical world. Just as we "give" seed into the ground to receive back multiple seeds, so it is with (everything) we give. Whether it's money, possessions, an emotion such as love or hate, prayers, or our time, we will reap a harvest of whatever we give. We reap exactly what we sow and proportional to the same measure that we give (Galatians 6:7-8).

Hmm... You already knew that, right?

I would suggest the rest of you get your mind renewed with these promises of God. I don't actually utilize in "getting to get" but, when you give... He definitely gives back!

So it's cardinal "law" not "grace"? Was Luke 6:38 written to those who could understand the old covenant?

If you give money to get financial returns, then why did Jesus give Himself on the cross & take our poverty?

Is "give to get" a promise of God OR "get freely because Jesus gave Himself for you" is a promise of God?

hhodgson · Oct 21, 2019

Si_monfaith said:
So it's cardinal "law" not "grace"? Was Luke 6:38 written to those who could understand the old covenant?

I used cardinal law because in the dictionary, it means.....

Cardinal Law: -----> "of the greatest importance;" fundamental.

So, my quote has nothing to do with your interpretation of it's context... therefore, your question is not relevant.

Daniel Marsh · Oct 21, 2019

hhodgson said:
It's more than just "sowing" and "reaping." It includes to also give, and it will be given.

LUKE 6:38, "Give, and it will be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you."

This verse reveals one of God's cardinal laws that will work in the spiritual realm, (as well), as the physical world. Just as we "give" seed into the ground to receive back multiple seeds, so it is with (everything) we give. Whether it's money, possessions, an emotion such as love or hate, prayers, or our time, we will reap a harvest of whatever we give. We reap exactly what we sow and proportional to the same measure that we give (Galatians 6:7-8).

Hmm... You already knew that, right?

I would suggest the rest of you get your mind renewed with these promises of God. I don't actually utilize in "getting to get" but, when you give... He definitely gives back!

37 “Don’t judge others, and God will not judge you. Don’t condemn others, and you will not be condemned. Forgive others, and you will be forgiven. 38 Give to others, and you will receive. You will be given much. It will be poured into your hands—more than you can hold. You will be given so much that it will spill into your lap. The way you give to others is the way God will give to you.”

39 Jesus told them this story: “Can a blind man lead another blind man? No. Both of them will fall into a ditch. 40 Students are not better than their teacher. But when they have been fully taught, they will be like their teacher.

41 “Why do you notice the small piece of dust that is in your friend’s eye, but you don’t see the big piece of wood that is in your own eye? 42 You say to your friend, ‘Let me get that little piece of dust out of your eye.’ Why do you say this? Can’t you see that big piece of wood in your own eye? You are a hypocrite. First, take the wood out of your own eye. Then you will see clearly to get the dust out of your friend’s eye.

Daniel Marsh · Oct 21, 2019

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Si_monfaith · Oct 21, 2019

hhodgson said:
I used cardinal law because in the dictionary, it means.....

Cardinal Law: -----> "of the greatest importance;" fundamental.

So, my quote has nothing to do with your interpretation of it's context... therefore, your question is not relevant.

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Does your cardinal law belong to the new covenant?

hhodgson · Oct 22, 2019

Si_monfaith said:
Does your cardinal law belong to the new covenant?

Unbelievable... he still misses it! What does "something of great importance and fundamental" have anything to do with your question?

Si_monfaith · Oct 23, 2019

hhodgson said:
Unbelievable... he still misses it! What does "something of great importance and fundamental" have anything to do with your question?

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New covenant is based on faith in Christ's blood or faith in your giving?

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