Fox News Judge Shuts down Republicans' Impeachment Complaint

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Please go ahead and quote the US Constitution that pertains to impeaching a sitting President over a phone call.
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...that's darn sure not the way to start an intelligent conversation...
 
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Please go ahead and quote the US Constitution that pertains to impeaching a sitting President over a phone call.



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Are you arguing that you can't be impeached for crimes committed over the phone because the constitution doesn't mention telephones?
 
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Are you arguing that you can't be impeached for crimes committed over the phone because the constitution doesn't mention telephones?


No I’m asking for the specific Constitutional language that is pertinent to the situation at hand.


Furthermore could you cite the crime that President Trump committed from the telephone transcripts of that conversation?


Just so we know for sure what crime you are referring to.




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That is exactly How to start an intelligent conversation, by seeking to review the facts.
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The fact is that the Constitution states impeachable offense is considered to be "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors." Since it doesn't specify exactly specifically which "high crimes and misdemeanors", it's up to Congress to decide, so it can be whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be.
 
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Wrong. I didn’t say incorrect.

Because his motive is wrong, which distorts his assessment of the facts, his opinion is wrong, being distorted.




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Are his facts wrong?
 
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The fact is that the Constitution states impeachable offense is considered to be "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors." Since it doesn't specify exactly specifically which "high crimes and misdemeanors", it's up to Congress to decide, so it can be whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be.

Then the next step would be to specifically define what crime was committed from the transcripts as well as witnesses.


What specific crime are you claiming was committed by President Trump, other than being hated by the Democrats and main stream media?


What do the transcripts show?



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Yes, it’s very simple to those who actually care about the truth, rather than having a distorted perspective based on political biased and corruption.




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Yes, it’s very simple to those who actually care about the truth, rather than having a distorted perspective based on political biased and corruption. Glad that Judge Napolitano cares about the truth on this and gave an honest, law-based perspective despite knowing how folks who have all the legal experience of a Law and Order episode would get all in a tizzy over it.
 
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Judge Napolitano


You asked this of another poster but for the reason the judge periodically defends Trump's actions still isn't a sign that he's slanted against him. Your question reminds me of another when a Trump supporter says they don't trust the polls they're asked by others, "You don't trust them when they show things in his favor?" As for me the answer is still NO. IMO it's just a part of the game. When the manipulator knows it's not possible to be considered reasonable there wouldn't be an upswing I think they give him a few points (or whoever they don't like) but never the true amount and always with the knowing they'll drop them down later. By doing so it gives it an appearance of being credible.



The PEOPLE don't needs the so called "expert" to tell us what the law of the land says in this matter. The Constitution has been quoted over and over again when it comes to the exact text of what it says. The House or Representatives have the sole power of impeachment and the Senate the sole power to try impeachments.

Napolitano has bypassed the the reality of precedent which defines the legal context of how it should be expected the Constitution be considered. Opposition parties during the Nixon and Clinton affairs were given various rights that are now being denied by the Dems. History is clear on this. So I hardly think the opinion of a judge speaking the contrary will really resonate well with the American people.

One more thing it seems the Framers went out of their way to ensure impeachment (genuine impeachment meaning the removal from office) would NEVER be an easy thing to do. It requires a 2/3 vote in the Senate which is far from just a simple majority BUT an overwhelming one. Thus we see the actions of the House in the Nixon times and Clinton allowed an open and transparent process. Now there are certain other thing that could be said about Nixon but the fact is the process was open and transparent. Not so now therefore I'd suggest the Judge is wrong.

You can go on as much as you need about your personal feelings on this, just let it all out, but no, the judge is not wrong on the law.
 
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Then the next step would be to specifically define what crime was committed from the transcripts as well as witnesses.
Hence, the hearings being conducted in the House right now.
What specific crime are you claiming was committed by President Trump, other than being hated by the Democrats and main stream media?
Quote me where I claimed Trump committed a crime. Again, that's not up to me, you, or the rest of the world. The House of Representatives will determine if he committed a crime and what the specific crime is.
What do the transcripts show?
That's up to the House of Representatives to determine.

All of this poop flinging doesn't do anything but smell the place up and create a mess. And it shows how little that people know about the impeachment process.
 
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All because Napolitano, who is not a Republican, did not get appointed to a position by President Trump which the judge coveted.

Or.... because Napolitano is correct.

but that would mean that Donald and his followers are wr-wr-wr-wr-...
 
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What law has President Trump violated?
Please cite the actual law, not the latest opinion of your favorite left wing socialist Trump hating Democrat.
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Your lack of understanding of impeachment is glaring. Breaking a specific “law” is not required. Congress decides what the articles of impeachment are.
 
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No I’m asking for the specific Constitutional language that is pertinent to the situation at hand.


Furthermore could you cite the crime that President Trump committed from the telephone transcripts of that conversation?


Just so we know for sure what crime you are referring to.




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The fact that the convo was on the phone is irrelevant. You can’t possibly be serious here.
 
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I know of his history which suggests a motive. If you would prefer to believe that his change of heart was for no particular reason, go right ahead.

You’d have to make a legal argument that contradicts his before you can talk about motives for him knowingly misinterpreting the constitution and the law. You skipped that step, because you have no expertise on the matter and can’t dispute his analysis.
 
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I know of his history which suggests a motive. If you would prefer to believe that his change of heart was for no particular reason, go right ahead.
How does his alleged motive make his comments wrong?
 
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How does anyone expect Trump to be impeached for, at worst, doing the same thing Biden did when he held up 1.5 billion to get a prosecutor fired?

Because Biden did what he did to remove corrupt officials, not to hire them.
 
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Biden forced the firing of a prosecutor investigating a company his son was on the Board of, accusing him of corruption.

Expect Biden was the only using his position to influence legal disputes that directly affected his family. THAT is what corruption looks like.
 
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Biden forced the firing of a prosecutor investigating a company his son was on the Board of, accusing him of corruption.

Expect Biden was the only using his position to influence legal disputes that directly affected his family. THAT is what corruption looks like.
The US and the European Community were in agreement that the prosecutor was corrupt. Biden was accomplishing the official foreign policy of the US.

Also ... the fired prosecutor wasn't investigating Hunter Biden's employer at that time. The investigation into Burisma occurred two years before Hunter was hired.
 
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