What day is the sabath what day does the bible say?

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But Jesus never told us to change the sabbath.


Jesus never told us to keep the Jewish Sabbath on Saturday either. The Sabbath was fulfilled by Jesus which automatically means it could never be the same as it was in the OT.
 
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Jesus never told us to keep the Jewish Sabbath on Saturday either. The Sabbath was fulfilled by Jesus which automatically means it could never be the same as it was in the OT.
Yes but the old testament says to keep holy the Lords day. God created the earth 6 days and rested on the 7th it has nothing to do with being Jewish. If you want to worship on Sunday you can but I'm staying with Saturday.
 
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Jesus never told us to keep the Jewish Sabbath on Saturday either. The Sabbath was fulfilled by Jesus which automatically means it could never be the same as it was in the OT.
He also never told us NOT to keep it. There is a clear misunderstanding of how covenants were changed in the ancient world.

Nothing changed from the old unless it was specifically mentioned as being changed in the newer covenant.
 
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He also never told us NOT to keep it.

It's more important that He did not teach what Sabbath keepers teach. There is no certain day of the Sabbath in Christian and NT doctrine which is why the majority of Christians did not keep it as found in the OT and the weakened versions of it promoted by a minority of Christians.
 
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There is no certain day of the Sabbath in Christian and NT doctrine
Of course there is; the same day our Lord kept as Sabbath. And we have records of that, both religious and secular.

WWJD?
 
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Of course there is; the same day our Lord kept as Sabbath.

Jesus worked on the Sabbath plus when he died on the cross everything changed included what the Sabbath was.
 
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Jesus worked on the Sabbath plus when he died on the cross everything changed included what the Sabbath was.
Lack of understanding. In Pharasaic tradition (which by employing it our Lord validated it) any negative “thou shalt not” command was trumped by a positive command “thou shalt” if the 2 were in conflict. In the cases of our Lord “working” on the Sabbath, He did so by obeying a positive command instead of the negative “thou shalt not work” command on the Sabbath.
 
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The Bible does not say not everything is in the Bible nor is the Bible there to tell us everything, the Church tells us things too. Saturday Sabbath was for the Jews, the Christians chose the day Christ rose from the dead. It is so much better to start the week with Christ and began fresh.

Sunday was never the Sabbath and never will be.
 
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He said he and his father worked on the Saturday Sabbath but it was holy work so no violation.

Joh 5:16 And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
Joh 5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

First, God does not need to rest, we do. Second, He did good works, which are not prohibited.
 
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They highlight, 'lawless deeds', in Titus thinking logically that fully obeying the law, will deliver a righteous and Christian life.

Though the law itself is not of faith.

Paul strongly opposed obedience to the law.

Romans 2:14
For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves.

Acts 13:39
And through Him everyone who believes is freed from all things, from which you could not be freed through the Law of Moses.

Romans 6:14
For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace.

Romans 6:15
What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace?

Romans 7:4
Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ.

Romans 7:6
But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.

1 Corinthians 9:20
To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law though not being myself under the Law, so that I might win those who are under the Law.

Galatians 2:19
19 For through the Law I died to the Law, so that I might live to God.

Galatians 3:10
For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all things written in the book of the law, to perform them.”

Galatians 3:24-25
Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.

Galatians 5:18
But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.

Ephesians 2:15
By abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace.

1 Timothy 1:9
Realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers.

Hebrews 7:18-19
For on the one hand, there is a setting aside of a former commandment because of its weakness and uselessness for the Law made nothing perfect, and on the other hand there is a bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

2 Corinthians 3:7
But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was.
Excellent summary, thank you.
 
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The written law was never given to the Gentile nations.

In fact, the Sabbath was a sign.

Exodus 31:17
It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever; for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, but on the seventh day He ceased from labor, and was refreshed.

The scripture never says that the law was given to any Gentile nation.

So I guess you are not grafted in?
 
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The first day of the week is Sunday. Saturday is the true sabbath. The catholic church changed the sabbath to Sunday not God or Jesus. Some people say Sunday worship is part of the new covenant because of when Christ rose up. But Jesus never told us to change the sabbath. If the road to heaven is narrow it could not be what everyone else is doing. The commandments say to keep holy the Lords day. Jesus said he came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it so old testament is still in place but you came come to the father thru Jesus now.
The day was changed well before the catholic church was formed. Around the second century AD it was more or less established that Sunday was the "Lord's day". John referred to this in the book of revelation.

The Law was put in charge of us to lead us to Christ. Once we are in Christ, the Law has done its job. Those who seek to keep the Law are denying the Saviour who bought them. Galatians chapter 3 states it categorically. The Law is not for believers in Christ. And yes, Lord Jesus fulfilled the Law absolutely. So we would not be bound by it. Which of the several thousand commandments have you broken today?
 
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That only applied to the Jews of the OT and since the old covenant is gone, even that isn't a valid command anymore.

No, it is a sign to Jews, but the Sabbat was made for man...BEFORE there were any Jews.
 
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Hi I always thought sunday was the sabath day but some people think the sabbath is on Saturday and now I don't know what day it realy is Saturday or sunday I always thought Sunday because God rested on the 7th day
The New Covenant replaced the Old. And we have no requirement to keep Saturday or Sunday as a sabbath in the New Covenant. Only this which predates the Ten Commandments.

“Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.” Acts 15:19–20 (KJV 1900)
 
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First, God does not need to rest, we do.

That's not what God says in scripture.

Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
 
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