Trump's letter to Erdogan

JackRT said:

The minimum objectives of the Turkish invasion have been met. Erdogen played Trump like a fiddle. Now both sides save a little face and no one was hurt but the Kurds and neither side cared about them at all.

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Perhaps you could back that up with some evidence...a quote or something from Erdogen maybe???

Zanting said:

Perhaps you could back that up with some evidence...a quote or something from Erdogen maybe???

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Sadly, Erdogen doesn't Twitter or have public melt downs. He seems to know how to be a Head of State.

JackRT said:

Sadly, Erdogen doesn't Twitter or have public melt downs. He seems to know how to be a Head of State.

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Please provide a video of the POTUS having a public meltdown...I've never seen one. Thank you.

Yes Twitter...a very modern POTUS...great way to know what he thinks directly so one can make up ones own mind...not a spin or slant from opinion pieces.

Zanting said:

Well it appears that Pence and Pompeo were the right men for the job as they were successful in reaching a cease fire agreement with Turkey.

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Gee I wonder how much that cost us

BREAKING: First draft of Trump letter released to press (below) - I'm glad they cleaned it up a little before sending it

Ricky M said:

Gee I wonder how much that cost us

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I'm guessing a whole lot less then engaging in another endless war that has nothing to do with the US of A.

It is telling how easily the Left will send other people’s kids to go off and die in useless wars. Donald Trump pulls us out of these deadly hotspots.

Aryeh Jay said:

It is telling how easily the Left will send other people’s kids to go off and die in useless wars. Donald Trump pulls us out of these deadly hotspots.

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Pulling out is not the issue as much as how he did it. You don't just abandon an effort like that without putting protections in place. Trump promised to eliminate ISIS - now he just let 100's of them go free, all because he couldn't plan ahead.

Not to mention the 50 nukes.

Aryeh Jay said:

It is telling how easily the Left will send other people’s kids to go off and die in useless wars. Donald Trump pulls us out of these deadly hotspots.

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Legit question - how many American soldiers died in Syria? What fighting were they doing?

Zanting said:

Well it appears that Pence and Pompeo were the right men for the job as they were successful in reaching a cease fire agreement with Turkey.

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I hope that is the case. Has the shooting stopped?

wing2000 said:

I hope that is the case. Has the shooting stopped?

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Did you watch the video? Do you think the Trump administration will break that agreement? Do you think Erdogan will keep the agreement? Hmmm...just wondering.

Ricky M said:

Pulling out is not the issue as much as how he did it. You don't just abandon an effort like that without putting protections in place. Trump promised to eliminate ISIS - now he just let 100's of them go free, all because he couldn't plan ahead.

Not to mention the 50 nukes.

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It wouldn't matter how he did it...pulling 28 soldiers out of harms way...democrats see nothing helpful or good in anything the Trump administration accomplishes.

wing2000 said:

I hope that is the case. Has the shooting stopped?

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Erdogen got what he wanted at very little cost. Ceasefires can last a very long time --- we have a ceasefire with North Korea now about 65 years old. The question now is will the Turks ever leave.

Zanting said:

Did you watch the video? Do you think the Trump administration will break that agreement? Do you think Erdogan will keep the agreement? Hmmm...just wondering.

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I did not watch the video as it would not be able to answer whether in fact, Turkey is actually implementing a cease fire. Turkey officials could certainly make a gentlemen's agreement to save Pence / Pompeo face...and do the exact opposite.

Zanting said:

Did you watch the video? Do you think the Trump administration will break that agreement? Do you think Erdogan will keep the agreement? Hmmm...just wondering.

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It is a 120 hour ceasefire - that's 5 days. The Turks agreed to it after advancing their positions and accomplishing a lot of the killing they wanted. Let's see if they abide by it. I think they will but I think after 5 days they will not agree to further ceasefires or any other concessions on their part. They only will do so if the US (or whoever) can convince Syria and the Kurds to concede a lot to the Turks and I don't think that's happening.

I guess the other thing that Trump and Pence can do is use the 5 days to legitimately threaten Turkey with sanctions. I hope they do that as they've been saying they would go there if they had to.

...a five-day cease fire was the agreement (which, if honored, at least allows for some humanitarian efforts).
The Turkey foreign minister, however, had a different take on some of the details:

Turkey’s foreign minister, Mevlut Cavusoglu, immediately countered that the agreement was not a cease-fire at all, but merely a “pause for our operation.” He added that “as a result of our president’s skillful leadership, we got what we wanted.”

He noted that the United States accepted the importance of the safe zone to protect Turkey’s legitimate security interests. “It is fully agreed that the safe zone will be under the control of the Turkish Armed Forces,” he said. “Giving a break does not mean to withdraw our forces,” he said. “We will go on being there.”

Mr. Cavusoglu also directly contradicted Mr. Pence’s announcement that Turkey had agreed to engage in no military action in Kobani, Syria.

“We did not make any promises about Kobani,” Mr. Cavusoglu said, adding that they would discuss Kobani with Russia going forward.

Turkey Agrees to Pause Fighting, but Not to Withdraw Forces From Northern Syria

Zanting said:

It wouldn't matter how he did it...pulling 28 soldiers out of harms way...democrats see nothing helpful or good in anything the Trump administration accomplishes.

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It absolutely would and does matter how he did it and how he will do what he does going forward.

wing2000 said:

...a five-day cease fire was the agreement (which, if honored, at least allows for some humanitarian efforts).
The Turkey foreign minister, however, had a different take on some of the details:

Turkey’s foreign minister, Mevlut Cavusoglu, immediately countered that the agreement was not a cease-fire at all, but merely a “pause for our operation.” He added that “as a result of our president’s skillful leadership, we got what we wanted.”

He noted that the United States accepted the importance of the safe zone to protect Turkey’s legitimate security interests. “It is fully agreed that the safe zone will be under the control of the Turkish Armed Forces,” he said. “Giving a break does not mean to withdraw our forces,” he said. “We will go on being there.”

Mr. Cavusoglu also directly contradicted Mr. Pence’s announcement that Turkey had agreed to engage in no military action in Kobani, Syria.

“We did not make any promises about Kobani,” Mr. Cavusoglu said, adding that they would discuss Kobani with Russia going forward.

Turkey Agrees to Pause Fighting, but Not to Withdraw Forces From Northern Syria

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Yes they gave contradictory reports. About the only thing that they seem to agree on is a pause/cease-fire for a temporary timeframe. Thanks for the great reference article!

Ricky M said:

Pulling out is not the issue as much as how he did it. You don't just abandon an effort like that without putting protections in place. Trump promised to eliminate ISIS - now he just let 100's of them go free, all because he couldn't plan ahead.

Not to mention the 50 nukes.

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Those so called “100s” were not held by the US, not unlike the terrorists that Obama freed to get a supporter back to the US.