Which kind of tree was the Living Tree in Eden?

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They were both unique and distinct from known, natural trees.
^^^ This. Perhaps they superficially looked like a natural tree, they were indeed not. Further, to compare to any domesticated tree we have today would be folly. Our apples, oranges, apricots, etc. are all heavily modified by cross breeding and managing that they are not the originals any longer.
 
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Which kind of tree was the Living Tree in Eden?
In Heaven the tree of life is a fruit tree. Like here on Earth the more you pick fruit off of the tree the more fruit the tree will produce. Earth is a shadow and type of Heaven. The letters represent the mouth, the leader or the head & the hand. This also represents the seed in the fruit. The context of Genesis 1:29 explains the meaning of the word "fruit".

"On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations."(Rev22:2)

"Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food." (Genesis1:29)
 
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They were both unique and distinct from known, natural trees.
I think one would be hard pressed to scripturally support that kind of statement.
 
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In Heaven the tree of life is a fruit tree. Like here on Earth the more you pick fruit off of the tree the more fruit the tree will produce. Earth is a shadow and type of Heaven. The letters represent the mouth, the leader or the head & the hand. This also represents the seed in the fruit. The context of Genesis 1:29 explains the meaning of the word "fruit".

"On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations."(Rev22:2)

"Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food." (Genesis1:29)
It could also be the Moringa.. which could easily be the "locust" John the Baptist was eating. Interesting thing about the Moringa is that you can also eat the leaves. You could make tea with it. In heaven, the tree of life has healing in its leaves. Moringa oleifera is often called the drumstick tree, the miracle tree, the ben oil tree, or the horseradish tree. It's been used for centuries for its medicinal properties and health benefits [antifungal, antiviral, antidepressant, and anti-inflammatory properties]. The tree is native to India but also grows in Asia, Africa, and South America. Moringa contains a variety of proteins, vitamins, and minerals. Moringa oleifera has few known side effects.
 
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I think one would be hard pressed to scripturally support that kind of statement.
"So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life." Genesis 3:24 NKJV

"The" means one (unless translated incorrectly). The Flood seems to have obscured it further.

Are you saying that a physical Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil species is still accessible somewhere? I have never heard that suggested before.
 
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"So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life." Genesis 3:24 NKJV

"The" means one (unless translated incorrectly). The Flood seems to have obscured it further.

Are you saying that a physical Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil species is still accessible somewhere? I have never heard that suggested before.
There were many trees in the garden but there were two specific trees in the middle.

Genesis 2
9 Then Adonai Elohim caused to sprout from the ground every tree that was desirable to look at and good for food.

Now the Tree of Life was in the middle of the garden, and also the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.

Genesis 3
2 The woman said to the serpent, “Of the fruit of the trees, we may eat. 3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God said, ‘You must not eat of it and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

Of the two in the middle only one was forbidden.

Note, it wasn't the tree of life.

Genesis 2
16 Then Adonai Elohim commanded the man saying, “From all the trees of the garden you are most welcome to eat. 17 But of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil you must not eat. For when you eat from it, you most assuredly will die!
 
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Are you saying that a physical Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil species is still accessible somewhere? I have never heard that suggested before.
Were the other trees also guarded would be the question. Or was only the tree of life being guarded. It seems to me that all the trees but one (the knowledge of good and evil) were to be eaten from. And when sin occurred the trees in the middle switched, the other became forbidden when the former was eaten. So maybe, as long as we eat from the tree that was forbidden we will never be able to eat from the tree that is now guarded. And conversely, we will be able to eat of the tree of life when we stop eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. As commanded from the beginning.

Which brings the question to mind. Does faith in Yeshua lead to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, or the tree of life? Which tree does Messiah feed us from, or lead us to?

And to throw a mickey wrench into the thought, traditional Jewish thought considers the tree of life the Torah. So, what does that make the knowledge of good and evil and it's fruit?
 
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It could also be the Moringa.. which could easily be the "locust" John the Baptist was eating. Interesting thing about the Moringa is that you can also eat the leaves. You could make tea with it. In heaven, the tree of life has healing in its leaves. Moringa oleifera is often called the drumstick tree, the miracle tree, the ben oil tree, or the horseradish tree. It's been used for centuries for its medicinal properties and health benefits [antifungal, antiviral, antidepressant, and anti-inflammatory properties]. The tree is native to India but also grows in Asia, Africa, and South America. Moringa contains a variety of proteins, vitamins, and minerals. Moringa oleifera has few known side effects.
I forget to mention that it produces edible beans. moringa tree beans - Bing images
 
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Thank you all for sharing this topic. If the Tree of Life leads to Torah, it also brings the knowledge of Kabala. Because my Torah level is low, I can’t study Kabala more.
It's been said that Kabbalah is the soul of Judaism. One should become as familiar as possible with the visible external before delving into the inner hidden things of the soul. It would be like an adolescent trying to teach others about life and marriage before they even understand who they are themselves or have understanding through experience.

Our Jewish sages were blinded only by a veil, they were not incapable of understanding the imagery of truth (Mashiach) only veiled to the details. The Zohar has many seemingly hidden meanings that relate directly to our Messiah. Like the donkey driver for one.

Though I think you're wise to build a firm foundation (on Torah) before you construct a window to open. Too many floating around as windows to the soul without any foundation at all.
 
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It's been said that Kabbalah is the soul of Judaism. One should become as familiar as possible with the visible external before delving into the inner hidden things of the soul. It would be like an adolescent trying to teach others about life and marriage before they even understand who they are themselves or have understanding through experience.

Our Jewish sages were blinded only by a veil, they were not incapable of understanding the imagery of truth (Mashiach) only veiled to the details. The Zohar has many seemingly hidden meanings that relate directly to our Messiah. Like the donkey driver for one.

Though I think you're wise to build a firm foundation (on Torah) before you construct a window to open. Too many floating around as windows to the soul without any foundation at all.
"Kabala the soul of Judaism"]. ?

That's an oblique and unmerrited refference.

In the spirit of self discipline I wonder if you and the readers here have found discretionary judgemenent in love a neighbor given to shlomo and shared in fellowship with instructions found in a letter of witness known as mishlei.

With further exploration of the terrain of Torah I hope the readers focus and study the Hebrew definition of "way" That is guarded by sword.

Blessings Always
 
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"Kabala the soul of Judaism"]. ?

That's an oblique and unmerrited refference.

In the spirit of self discipline I wonder if you and the readers here have found discretionary judgemenent in love a neighbor given to shlomo and shared in fellowship with instructions found in a letter of witness known as mishlei.

With further exploration of the terrain of Torah I hope the readers focus and study the Hebrew definition of "way" That is guarded by sword.

Blessings Always
Derech HaYashar - The Straight Way; Right Path

Where as once a single sword guarded the heart of a king of yhdh who was after The heart of the Lord of Lights.

I find two swords given the disciples to be a double blessing in guarding the heart with the two greatest and beautiftul commands of instruction from Yeshua.

Blessed be The Holy One
 
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I wonder if any of the readers here recall a lion at the East gate?

A lion with a dark mane to contrast it's facial features along with a quiet voice
of patience

While there are women like binyamin who have found a division of fruits per ruach hallel. I imaginge a desire of honor toward a promise of blessing is freely given.
I wonder if a daughter of the kingdom is able to find the darkest orange upon mount Sinai before sunset ...
Then with a joy upon a daughters heart I hope she finds color on The shofar.
A color hidden both in sound with 7 Yom and silence within the 8th Yom.
Where Moshe as a gentle man asked his wife to give life to, and seal his child with a promised hope.
 
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It's been said that Kabbalah is the soul of Judaism.
It has also been noted that kbblh is OPPOSED to Jesus and to Yahweh, dangerous like quicksand, and is full of false teachings and directions directly against Yahuweh's Word.
 
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I'll offer a unique very speculative view of The Tree of Life from a perspective of God and his race of angels possibly not being omniscience, omnipotence, omnipresence, beings but rather the ultimate intelligent and powerful entities in our universe. Given that possibility, let us assume God's angels spent time on our planet improving the body and brains of our most advanced ancestral primates that over generations resulted in Adam who lives to over 900 years.

In the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve failed to pass a key test of obedience as Original Sin occurred, an innate behavioral imperfection that is part of our essence. Although our physical form and beauty, innate capabilities, health, and longevity could be genetically engineered by God from ordinary ape humans, I might speculate at some level, behavioral flaws were not something God could easily improve on within structures of the Earthly creature brain that may rely in fundamental structural ways on survival of the fittest. After Original Sin, Adam and Eve were no longer allowed to eat from the Tree of Life within the Garden of Eden that would have allowed them to live much longer without aging and dying.

Even in our current early era of genetic science, scientists expect there may be a not too distant time when we can grow food, nutrients, and medicines directly from genetically engineered plants that utilize chemical constructions. Even if God engineered a superior Adam, scientists would expect that certain nutrients that might not be able to synthesize within our bodies could be instead provided by supplements. And those supplements might for beings with advanced science, be grown via genetically engineered plants that could be implemented as The Tree of Life of Genesis. I would speculate God did all this because although he could love ordinary humans, their mortal nature was very painful to God given his enormous ability to love. So God created man who would not die easily however that was dependent on an acceptable level of moral behavior. Although Adam's descendants often lived to over 900 years, if they had access to The Tree of Life, despite having mortal organic bodies, they may have been capable of living far longer with that gift.

We might also speculate there may be other Earth-like worlds where human beings with Adam’s DNA have been brought and under more control have been further developed. For a race of Adam’s to exist here on Earth there would have needed to be a way to prevent interbreeding with ordinary human beings lest their superior qualities become diluted. That could be physically performed initially say by moving Adam’s to other continents. However, if at some point the plan was to allow Adam’s to proceed naturally without knowledge of their creators, that would eventually fail as the two populations grew and spread. Hence a moral dilemma for God to either exterminate the ordinary humans ala dinosaurs or move the race of engineered Adam’s to another world. And it may be through Jesus that God has given we ordinary humans a chance to also escape otherwise certain organic eternal death.
 
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