GQ’s New Masculinity

Pavel Mosko said:

Well it looks like there has been a Woke changing of the guard of that magazine!

To tell you the truth this seems like a postmodern retread of the stuff going on in the Counter Culture, where we saw things like unisex hairstyles, garments, the first "experimentation" with folks trying out same sex relationships as an alternative life style (especially as depicted in works like "Hair"), and lots of questioning of "tradition" in favor of dabbling into all kinds of stuff.


While I think it is bad, not all of it is. I've been watching a lot of videos on narcissism in light of a friend divorce being married to an abusive wife who seems to fit that profile, but watching some of the videos I ran across a number of videos that didn't fit his situation but fit some of the other ones I've seen in my life (regarding male narcissists). Anyway their is a great quote from one of her videos. Anyway she mentions she could write a book on Narcissism entitled "How to be a Man in Today's World and Succeed"!

Her point somewhat resonates with me; since I come from the opposite of that as far as my personality etc. Anyway she mentions how we as a culture don't value empathy in men etc.

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You make a very good point. It’s been DONE. Again and again and again. Ecclesiastes, folks.

bekkilyn said:

Maybe someone rolls him up and attaches him to a backpack and he just directs them to wherever he needs to go!

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Yeah the fellow looks like he's set to take a nap.

LaBèlla said:

Welcome to GQ's New Masculinity issue, an exploration of the ways that traditional notions of masculinity are being challenged, overturned, and evolved.

Feature article with Pharrell on Evolving Masculinity and Spiritual Warfare

There were gender-fluid elements to the way you dressed long before it became a national conversation.

It started with the “I can pull that off” thing. I wore a lot of Chanel, and I wore tons of Céline. Like, I got all the O.G. Céline. Because they were clothes I could fit in. When you listen to yourself and you're comfortable in who you are, you wear what you feel like fits and looks right on you. And that's it.

Question: What are your thoughts on “new masculinity?” Is it a fad or something deeper?

~Bella

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Funny!

LaBèlla said:

I agree and I don’t know any women looking for this look. The link you shared is more in line with what I’ve encountered.

~Bella

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Yeah it's odd...I can't really call it though. Remember the 80's when this guy was sexy?



Or these guys?



The difference is....you can look at a lot of old English rock bands and see the transition...sort of. The hair gets bigger, pants tighter, things like perms and makeup start showing up. There's a progression....

It's not a magazine just stating for everyone "this is the new look".

Regardless...it's nothing to really worry about. This always seems to happen for awhile, then snap backwards into this dirty, rough, unrefined look. No matter how ridiculous, over groomed, and frilly it gets...it always rebounds in the other direction.

MehGuy said:

Some report to feeling like a man one day and the woman the next.

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I know you really aren't the person to ask...

But do you have any idea what that means? We all have relative access to the same feelings. Does it mean men and women feel different things? And how would one know which they feel like?

I mean....I only ever feel like me. I can say I feel like a man, because I am one, but if I was some disembodied brain floating in a vat and couldn't remember my past....how would I know which one I am? Is it possible I've felt like a woman my whole life and just don't know it?

It all rests on the premise that women and men feel fundamentally different in some meaningful and noticeable way. Yet no one seems quite able to describe what that means....and believe me, I've asked.

LaBèlla said:

Bingo. It’s unfortunate few realize where things are heading. The same idea is being pushed for children too.

~Bella

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I don't think it is unfortunate at all. Have you seen people? Most people want nothing to do with God and His word - including some Christians.

So, if they are ignorant of certain things, it is because they are making a spiritual choice to be used by an enemy they don't realize exists.

This enemy is a fallen entity, so of course it wants the world to look like "it" in the sense that angels are complete in gender (androgynous, male/female parts) - it certainly doesn't want 8,000,000,000 entities looking like the IMAGE of the Most High God as He made us.

LBG has always existed, and transvestites have always been around as well, so that isn't the devilish play (although it should be treated as a sin). The goal is to saturate the world with an affinity for LBG so that transexuality becomes normal. The "Gay agenda" may be real, but they are being used spiritually to get people to accept it - so that there would be more affinity to androgyny in dress (even for straight people,) and in sexual practice.

The victims here again are the LBGT because they likely don't believe in the spiritual exploitation of what they think are human and civil rights fights.


We will all be androgynous like Adam was before he was split into male and woman, but this won't happen until we get a resurrected body. This enemy is getting people to create their own "resurrected" body because we have been led to believe these meat sacks are the end, and we don't believe the promises of the Most High God.

It's a crazy spiritual strategy against us, and if aa lowly human can figure it out, no doubt there is something else going on much bigger (next stages).

KarateCowboy said:

Source?

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The Bible doesn't say much about gender roles outside of a couple instructions regarding roles within the church.

This trans thing has just spiraled out of control and is getting exponentially worse. These procedures are not healthy, they aren't simple, & they aren't reversible. This is all giving way to trans-humanism, trans-ablism, trans-agism, trans-racialism, trans-species and who knows what else we'll see 5, 10 years down the road.

Nevermind any real problems society has to contend with, we now have to memorize a pamphlet of new pronouns for a binder of new gender identities.

Not to mention the whole LGBTQIA2PQQA thing...who is supposed to remember all that? The whole point of an acronym is to make saying names easier and more efficient in casual conversation. There's nothing casual, easy or efficient about appropriating half the alphabet so they can all feel special.

Ya want a meme? The Jaws dude saying we're gonna need a bigger alphabet for the LGBTQ+ community.

Not my style, but who cares. If people earn an honest living and want to spend it on whatever type of fashion that is, that's their prerogative.

One of the watches I own is a $70,000 gold Rolex with diamonds on it. A lot of people wouldn't wear that (price aside) and many may find it gaudy, but a lot of others would wear it.

The same principle applies to countless other things that are fashion-related that go back a long time before any kind of femininity became mainstream in some male clothing.

If that's what makes them feel good, so be it. It's the creature comforts in life that get people out of bed each morning for their 9-5.

High Fidelity said:

Not my style, but who cares. If people earn an honest living and want to spend it on whatever type of fashion that is, that's their prerogative.

One of the watches I own is a $70,000 gold Rolex with diamonds on it. A lot of people wouldn't wear that (price aside) and many may find it gaudy, but a lot of others would wear it.

The same principle applies to countless other things that are fashion-related that go back a long time before any kind of femininity became mainstream in some male clothing.

If that's what makes them feel good, so be it. It's the creature comforts in life that get people out of bed each morning for their 9-5.

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You aren't telling me that I *must* indulge in oppupant fashions in order to be tolerant of your spending (of gift) style. That is a major difference. As you pointed out, some people will turn their nose up at such a piece of fashion, but it is still your prerogative to choose it for yourself.

Moreover, you aren't telling me that a $70,000 watch occurs in nature; I am not forced to accept that the man-made procedures to create the watch were natural.

Kaon said:

I don't think it is unfortunate at all. Have you seen people? Most people want nothing to do with God and His word - including some Christians.

So, if they are ignorant of certain things, it is because they are making a spiritual choice to be used by an enemy they don't realize exists.

This enemy is a fallen entity, so of course it wants the world to look like "it" in the sense that angels are complete in gender (androgynous, male/female parts) - it certainly doesn't want 8,000,000,000 entities looking like the IMAGE of the Most High God as He made us.

LBG has always existed, and transvestites have always been around as well, so that isn't the devilish play (although it should be treated as a sin). The goal is to saturate the world with an affinity for LBG so that transexuality becomes normal. The "Gay agenda" may be real, but they are being used spiritually to get people to accept it - so that there would be more affinity to androgyny in dress (even for straight people,) and in sexual practice.

The victims here again are the LBGT because they likely don't believe in the spiritual exploitation of what they think are human and civil rights fights.


We will all be androgynous like Adam was before he was split into male and woman, but this won't happen until we get a resurrected body. This enemy is getting people to create their own "resurrected" body because we have been led to believe these meat sacks are the end, and we don't believe the promises of the Most High God.

It's a crazy spiritual strategy against us, and if aa lowly human can figure it out, no doubt there is something else going on much bigger (next stages).

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Go ahead on and preach the truth!

LaBèlla said:

God isn’t the originator of spiritual confusion. That’s Satan’s domain. If someone feels they’re in the wrong body, gender, etc. that isn’t His fault. The heart is deceitful.

No, we do that to ourselves.

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change. —James 1:17

There’s nothing good about this. Its a hot mess.

~Bella

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I agree that God isn't the originator of spiritual confusion, but when he uniquely creates a person's spirit and human beings decide the spirit God created for that person is wrong and tries to force them to go against that spirit, then those human beings are guilty of creating spiritual confusion.

But since you've already decided that the way you personally perceive things is right, you're not going to get that what you have decided is God's way concerning gender roles is an entirely human construct.

Now most people are created biologically male and female for the purpose of producing children, but gender is imaginary. There is no such thing as "feeling like a woman" or "feeling like a man" outside of a person's imagination, so who cares what a person dresses like.

When it comes to the topic of transgenderism, my primary concern is that they are playing into the system of believing that there is such a thing as feeling like a woman or a man.

Who really cares what physical body we're in outside of human created power and privilege? If I woke up tomorrow morning wearing a man's body, the only difference would be how *other* people treat me as a man vs. a woman, but I'd be exactly the same person I am now...same personality, same interests, same spiritual gifts, etc. No difference. No amount of dressing up in different styles of clothing or my physical appearance is ever going to change the person God created.

LaBèlla said:

God isn’t the originator of spiritual confusion. That’s Satan’s domain. If someone feels they’re in the wrong body, gender, etc. that isn’t His fault. The heart is deceitful.

No, we do that to ourselves.

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Your theology is bad and ignores a whole host of biological chemistry that shapes how you look and how you think and that can, at times, get out of whack in the same way that any other physical system can get out of whack.

My wife has friends with one intersex child and another on the way (both biologically theirs). There's nothing in that situation about Satan or their sinful desires. The kids are/will be just born that way.

renniks said:

There's a big difference between dressing like a dandy, and acting like a woman. Maybe it's something in the processed food I'm not sure... Sure seeing a lot of feminine dudes these days.

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Given some of the women I have known while kicked (well you know) I would be happy to act like a woman if that was in my nature.

The fact is, I had to fight against the stereotype of being a tough man, because that is not me. I am never going to wear a dress or makeup, but I am not going to stop the guy next to me if they want to. This instance of men acting one way and women acting another is very harmful to people mentally.

bekkilyn said:

God is not going to create someone with one spirit and then force them to permanently live and behave under the yoke of an entirely different spirit, but that's what gender conformity does to many people. Replaces the spirit that God gave to them uniquely with an oppressive yoke that is nothing like what he created them to be.

Male and female is basic biology. Masculine and feminine are cultural constructs.

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Good point. And we might also look at the differences between Jacob and Esau as to "what" biblical manhood amounts to or can amount to ...................

......obviously, Pharrell is a little more like Jacob than Esau, minus the yellow parachute.