The first Pope was a married Priest

Cis.jd said:

First. I am some what supportive of Priests being allowed to marry mainly because I think it may help the issue in regards to the pedophile scandals

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Root of Jesse said:

Not always so. But the most common exception is the Anglican convert who was a priest in the Anglican Church.

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concretecamper said:

Yeah, if I as a man was denied the company of a woman, I would go search out little boys. Do you see how silly that sounds.

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Cis.jd said:

I'm not saying that celibacy is factually the reason,

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Cis.jd said:

we have stories of married men doing this

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Cis.jd said:

No, it shouldn't sound silly at all. Take a look at the men in prison, they are known to rape, sexually abuse and even have actual relations with their inmates.. yet many of them were heteros prior to prison.
Now most priests came into seminaries at a young age with out any psycho-sexual development, so you have these young men going into sexual deprivation and lack of intimacy before sexually maturing, and it can be mentally damaging.

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concretecamper said:

Then I dont understand why you needed to say this

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So, before you respond just to respond, why dont you look up what % of cases were prepubescent boys. The answer WILL rebut your theory/solution in the post I responded to.

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Cis.jd said:

Mainly because of possibility. Eventhough we have cases of different people doing, such as married men that doesn't mean that some priests developed their mental illness because of celibacy. Any form of mental illness can develop in different ways.




You misunderstood what I said. I said most priests start out a young age before developing sexual maturity which is why as they got older as priests they end up exhibiting these sexual behaviors or preferences. So with Priests, they end up jailing their sexuality before or at the moment of sexual maturity and because of that their hormones and driving them crazy.

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rockytopva said:

If Peter was the first pope he was a married one....

And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever. And he touched her hand, and the fever left her: and she arose, and ministered unto them. - Matthew 8:14-15

And forthwith, when they were come out of the synagogue, they entered into the house of Simon and Andrew, with James and John. But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever, and anon they tell him of her. And he came and took her by the hand, and lifted her up; and immediately the fever left her, and she ministered unto them. - Mark 1:29-31

And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon's house. And Simon's wife's mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her. And he stood over her, and rebuked the fever; and it left her: and immediately she arose and ministered unto them.
- Luke 4:38-39

I believe it would be good for the Catholic Church to allow married priests. Here are some recent articles talking about it...

Pope Francis meeting raises conservatives' fears of married priests - CNN
Pope Opens Debate on Celibacy Requirement for Catholic Priests

Here in Blacksburg we have a married Catholic Deacon by the name of Dr. Mike Ellerbrock who goes by the title of Deacon and Reverend...

St. Mary's Staff
Teaching and preaching: The vocations of Deacon Michael Ellerbrock | The Catholic Virginian

I do not know why the married Dr. Mike Ellerbrock goes by the title of Deacon and Reverend. But I believe this man would do the Catholic Church good if they let this married man rise up through the ranks. I believe there are many married Catholics who would do their church good as married Priests. And to allow celibate priests only to those able to live such a life....

His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. - Matthew 19:10-12

I am a single man who was once in the youth ministry. While I was in this ministry it did well. When I lost my help I had to get out of this ministry as well as I dared not put myself in the position of being alone with children. If I were to serve in any kind of ministry I would want do it married or with a group.

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concretecamper said:

Looks like we are entering.....the Twilight Zone

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ralfyman said:

From what I remember, some of the reasons involved Church property lost to wives and children of married priests. Today, they involve concerns over providing enough income to support families. At least the same were raised by some married priests who converted to Catholicism.

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LoveofTruth said:

This may be some of those concerns but we see in scripture the elders working with their own hands

and a plurality of elders in every church not just one man over all

we see mutual edification of each other in peoples homes. The large super structures we see today with massive buildings and be man exalted over others. Are not biblical.

Paul said to the elders

“ Acts 20:33. I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel.34. Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.35. I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.”

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tz620q said:

Truthfully, the non-denom movement is not much of a threat to mainline religions just for this reason. A good preacher rises, builds a megachurch and then departs, either through death or moving on. The church falters and eventually goes under. The movement continues because of the spirit of this age to place individual truth above corporate truth and to denounce any form of authority; but the individual churches come and go.

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bbbbbbb said:

Yep. That's exactly what happened after that chap, Martin Luther, passed on, having declared his church to be non-denominational and truly catholic. And John Calvin, another fellow who started his own non-denom church, and then died and it all disappeared. The list is really endless.

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MarkRohfrietsch said:

Sarcasm I presume. LOL

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BNR32FAN said:

I think the idea behind the RCC insisting on priest celibacy was to completely devote their life to Christ as Paul did. Paul did say that it is better to remain unmarried unless it causes a person to sin. In that case it is better to marry.

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